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But the new weapons can not beat the old -slaughter weapons even if they get slightly better PAB bonus.

So before the patch, -Slaughter was the best pick.

After the patch, OLD-Slaughter weapon is still the best pick and it's impossible to get it unless you buy it from rich people for more credits.

Is this suppose to be a newbie killer patch?

The patch move from 1 extreme (new player can use ultra good equipment) to another extreme (new player can only use crap they gather, if they can actually get 1, or even like the game that much to spend that much effort to gather their first piece of crap)

@ 10boro,

i'm checking every -slaughter items,,, and i can check non slaughter equipment's are buff as you said

such as Exquisite Power Leggings of Protection...

this item has 12.88 adb same as old power protection Lmax adb.
but this slaughter item Magnificent Power Gauntlets of Slaughter,

has 15.71 base adb same as old power slaughter s-2.xx adb.

even if considering there item's level i think this is miss design, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

It seems to be. This one also has ex wd.

Teach me how to gather your first set of equipment

Use your old set (for mid-players)
Play HV
Pick up some gear after a battle; pick up a trophy & shrine it
... Shekel Profit!

you can't even buy average stuff on bazaar.

BS. There was a shitload of unassigned gears today. Here's an example.
You can also buy some unassigned gears at WTS section as yet.

It seems to be. This one also has ex wd.

this one is also....

everthing is high but wd (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

i cannot think slaughter is not changed as tenboro said

This post has been edited by kororoc: May 19 2015, 11:22

Use your old set (for mid-players)
Play HV
Pick up some gear after a battle; pick up a trophy & shrine it
... Shekel Profit!
BS. There was a shitload of unassigned gears today. Here's an example.
You can also buy some unassigned gears at WTS section as yet.

You make it like getting a new set is simple, yet from the drop list posted by those high end player, it's very time consuming to even gather a set of just superior on PFU SG run. And low level player would level up real quick on the process, finding they are weaker and weaker thus forcing them to play on lower difficulties for gathering, which makes better drop chance reduce. Like I said, a game that punish people for leveling is ridiculous.

unaasigned equipment would soon extinct as new item will always has level, people are just dumping old stuff. or does the system generate new item now?

Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

why wd value is ex- ? another stat is near lmax
??????? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

The patch move from 1 extreme (new player can use ultra good equipment) to another extreme (new player can only use crap they gather, if they can actually get 1, or even like the game that much to spend that much effort to gather their first piece of crap)

New players couldn't use that good equipment before - good stuff is/was quite expensive - though they were able to get high quality common-tier stuff that no one else wanted, like leather. There was a pretty natural progression where a player would gradually get more credits as they played more, as well as the occasional sellable drop, and would eventually assuredly be able to acquire upgrades (until Lmax or so, of course).

But now that's not possible anymore, and players can only pray for luck to find decent equipment - and those just starting will be out of luck.

Use your old set (for mid-players)
Play HV
Pick up some gear after a battle; pick up a trophy & shrine it
... Shekel Profit!

Assuming, of course, you get extremely lucky and are able to find the right armor/weapon slot, prefix, suffix, rare type (most likely), quality, and high enough stats on the important attributes.

But unless you have luck as good as Dani, that's not going to happen, especially not for anyone who doesn't already have the level and gear to grind a lot.

You make it like getting a new set is simple

But unless you have luck as good as Dani

Forget this "I want it all, I want it now" song. It never was so simple.

unaasigned equipment would soon extinct as new item will always has level, people are just dumping old stuff. or does the system generate new item now?

I think there'll be created a (resell) players chain by that time. Also, don't forget about painarse soulfusing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: May 19 2015, 11:47

this one is also....

everthing is high but wd (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

i cannot think slaughter is not changed as tenboro said

Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter

this one also has only emax WD… (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Forget this "I want it all, I want it now" song. It never was so simple.
I think there'll be created a players chain by that time. Also, don't forget about painarse soulfusing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So wanting an set of just superior that not worth selling to player at once to start playing is asking too much now? If I am a new player I will never touch this game.

So wanting an set of just superior that not worth selling to player at once to start playing is asking too much now? If I am a new player I will never touch this game.

Well I punched mobs for the first 30 levels. Part of the fun is coming in with nothing and slowly progressing.

Hmmm... it seems that new Legendary slaughter weapon is not outstanding for WD yet as far as I've seen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I'm expecting to see someone get a new "lmax" WD of slaughter weapons soon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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Elemental Mage? or Melee? And which difficulty?

Also, just for example would you please describe for me reason (as you see it), why equipment from shrine have level of the shriner instead of "level unassigned" ? Shrine results are not dependent on levels, trainings and so on, so why the shriner, who wants to get a good equipment should be stuck with five more pieces of good equipment not suited for his style, without any hope to sell them?

Because that wouldn't have changed the market much. Rich player would still buy all of your Trophies > Generate Unassigned Equipments > Sell them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Use your old set (for mid-players)
Play HV
Pick up some gear after a battle; pick up a trophy & shrine it
... Shekel Profit!
BS. There was a shitload of unassigned gears today. Here's an example.
You can also buy some unassigned gears at WTS section as yet.

That's not a permanent solution. The "Unassigned" equipments are limited in number, and sooner or later they will be as rare as Peerless. How can you expect a newly joined player, with no training and fund, can get those?

or does the system generate new item now?

You're thinking too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well I punched mobs for the first 30 levels. Part of the fun is coming in with nothing and slowly progressing.

With the newly changed EXP system, players can level up a lot faster. For a newly joined player, ANY equipment can easily lag behind.

This post has been edited by tetron: May 19 2015, 12:05

Did the kitty get it?

Because that wouldn't have changed the market much. Rich player would still buy all of your Trophies > Generate Unassigned Equipments > Sell them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It would change the market very much because there are much more dropped equipment pieces, then there are trophies. As far as I can understand the purpose of the patch was not to deny high-level traders their added value, the purpose of the patch was to minimize amount of lvl50 players in full Exquisite sets of armor with Magnificent weapons. And that purpose would be achieved, because amount of freely transferable equipment would be reduced to a small percentage of pre-patch, and even that equipment would be subject to becoming obsolete - it may be possible to buy exquisite at lvl 50 (but thay are likely to be much more expensive than pre-patch) but at lvl 100 you have to either soulbound it or buy a new Exquisite.

This post has been edited by Paarfi: May 19 2015, 12:52

Elemental Mage? or Melee? And which difficulty?

Elemental (it says in the picture) and PFUDOR, which I assumed was implied. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Hmmm... it seems that new Legendary slaughter weapon is not outstanding for WD yet as far as I've seen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I'm expecting to see someone get a new "lmax" WD of slaughter weapons soon. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Maybe 10B made a mistake and didn't boost enough the adb to make up for the slaughter suffix nerf.

Well I punched mobs for the first 30 levels. Part of the fun is coming in with nothing and slowly progressing.

Choosing to play in a style and being forced to be played in only 1 style is totally different. It's a game for fun, not a job you need to do.

It would change the market very much because there are much more dropped equipment pieces, then there are trophies. As far as I can understand the purpose of the patch was not to deny high-level traders their added value, the purpose of the patch was to minimize amount of lvl50 players in full Exquisite sets of armor with Magnificent weapons. And that purpose would be achieved, because amount of freely transferable equipment would be reduced to a small percent of pre-patch, and even that equipment would be subject to becoming obsolete - it may be possible to buy exquisite at lvl 50 (but thay are likely to be much more expensive than pre-patch) but at lvl 100 you have to either soulbound it or buy a new Exquisite.

Nope. The so called "Good Equipments" were rare and costly even in the pre-patch state. Most of the good gears that the newbies could found were only from the FreeShop and a few other generous shops.

An workaround of the current situation can be like this: All Superior grade equipments generated from the Shrine is Unassigned. Exquisite grade and higher is level bound.

This will give the newbies some starting ground.

Elemental (it says in the picture) and PFUDOR, which I assumed was implied. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Oops. My mistake. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
But my scenario says otherwise.
I'm 1H+Shade right now. And in IWBTH there is very slim increase of Restoratives (After using them is battle). But in PFUDOR, I have to use more Restoratives than I drop.
What's the case for 1H+Power?

Choosing to play in a style and being forced to be played in only 1 style is totally different. It's a game for fun, not a job you need to do.

But, but, we need to play HV if we want to download. Not everyone has enough net speed or can leave PC 24/7 for H@H.

This post has been edited by tetron: May 19 2015, 13:01