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post May 19 2015, 05:30
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Nice, Time to Sell ALL My old Potions. Lucky enough there is +1000 Button now. I can sell 'em all by 1 click (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post May 19 2015, 05:41
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New patch, same old Prefix-less Exq weapons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Tenboro, please change the chance of Prefix, at least for weapons, to something like 20%/40%/60% for Sup/Exq/Mag.
For Armor it's not a big deal if there's no Prefix, but 99% of Prefix-less weapons are inferior to Prefixed ones.
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post May 19 2015, 06:36
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Seriously. What's the point of making the game tougher? What's the point? It wasn't easy to begin with! WHAT THE HECK
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post May 19 2015, 06:46
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ May 19 2015, 06:36) *

Seriously. What's the point of making the game tougher? What's the point? It wasn't easy to begin with! WHAT THE HECK


This place has been a nerfstorm for years. Where've you been?
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post May 19 2015, 07:02
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My Ether Tap restores more mana than a draught. 150% to 200% more, in fact. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 07:13
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My two DwD/TTT/FSM clear all give exq craps. Together with the 50%+ average drop in clearing everything in PFUDOR.

The cost of holy mage (mp pot) is reaching the point that playing at PFUDOR arena barely cover the cost. For someone maxed the 4 drop related training.
With the completely death market and the equipment level. How can I making my gears catching up my level. I can only rely on the RE to bind my existing gears one by one? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post May 19 2015, 07:16
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 19 2015, 06:44) *

Trade for stuff? Really? Never played with anything except what I've found.

How the heck is that even done?

Why have I never learned how? Maybe because the few times I've tried to PM anyone I've been blown off with no answer? Why should I care then to try to talk to anyone after that?

Even after reading wiki stuff I still don't understand that stuff anyway. I just look for whatever the best of my drop are and use that.

But now you can't even buy stuff on bazaar. Unless you also never visit bazaar for normal equipment and depends purely on loot...
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post May 19 2015, 07:20
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 13:13) *

My two DwD/TTT/FSM clear all give exq craps. Together with the 50%+ average drop in clearing everything in PFUDOR.

The cost of holy mage (mp pot) is reaching the point that playing at PFUDOR arena barely cover the cost. For someone maxed the 4 drop related training.
With the completely death market and the equipment level. How can I making my gears catching up my level. I can only rely on the RE to bind my existing gears one by one? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


From what I read, they intentionally don't want your gear to catch up your level, or you need to spend hell lot of credit to do that.
And they think it could make the game more fun and challenging...like hell it will.
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post May 19 2015, 07:21
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 05:13) *


The cost of holy mage (mp pot) is reaching the point that playing at PFUDOR arena barely cover the cost.



If tenb don't want to fix the holy/dark's mana cost.
At least he can increase holy/dark's damage to cover the mana disadventage.

How much mana cost, how powerful the spell is.

That may also help.
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post May 19 2015, 07:32
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 18 2015, 17:52) *

Well. Declining offers is fine. But completely ignoring someone is pretty rude... I might have felt the same way.

i'm sensitive person too.
But then i think, either that or they yell "shut up!", which one is better?
That attitude means the offer is not reasonable for them aka "such a bother". They decline upsetly.

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post May 19 2015, 07:34
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QUOTE(Cashino @ May 19 2015, 05:46) *

This place has been a nerfstorm for years. Where've you been?

Maybe I am too new but i don't know about any single patch which was so disruptive as this one. One thing or another going from the being the best option in the game to the lowest tier is he one thing. Patch that stops trading altogether and changes the general feeling from "the cookie clicker" to the "roguelike" is something entirely different.

There many different complaints, new equip system being first and foremost, but If am allowed to summarize all of them in one phrase then it would be "Game became TOO difficult". And definitely not fun.

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post May 19 2015, 07:44
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The fact that you let us level up and do upgrades to our gear means that is WAS intended for us to nurture, improve, and keep our gear for a very long time, once we found something we liked. Yet now, all of that gear I have spent so much time, effort, and credits on improving, all the work on the pet to bring me parts to help improve that equipment is now for naught, just a big waste, because now all my gear is going to be out leveled? At the maximum rate, it would take months to get enough of those shards, close to a year, and of course, the way my luck works, the moment I get up done is the exact moment I find a better piece, no matter how many months I have been looking for one...

So, in addition to the gear needing to be fixed as it gets used, instead of us learning how to better use our gear, and it leveling up with us, as it always has, now our gear gets weaker as we get stronger...

It has taken forever to get an even half way decent set of armor, and it still doesn't match, and now I have to worry about it basically 'expiring'? I wish I had not spent all that on training recently, and just horded my credits for downloads...

The one good thing I could say was it was nice to get more monster food, but since the only reason I have one is to get parts for upgrades, and upgrading is now pointless, not sure why bother.

I am just a few fights from leveling, so basically soon after putting my gear back on, it will start to get weaker, if I am understanding this correctly, and all the work of trying to find something worth having is for nothing. Is twinking really that much of an issue? Wasn't it enough that if you take a strong piece of equipment and put it on a weaker character, the piece got weaker too? Or that the equipment had to be repaired/maintained? This makes me not want to level any longer either, so yeah, when can we turn off exp?

...Unless the goal WAS to run off all the lower level and/or casual players, in which case, GJ. Never would have bought any of that stuff, or done any of those upgrades and level ups for all of that equipment for all of those months, if I had known it was all going to be for nothing... What a waste.

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"Nerf-fest" ...even if that's true, so what? Does someone else having better gear than they normally would at that level effect you? No. does it affect me? No. Does breaking the game for everyone else to prevent some people from getting better gear affect the rest of us? Very much so, and not in a good way. So, to fix something that really isn't a problem, you make the game unplayable for most everyone else... Not the best way to go...

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post May 19 2015, 07:53
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ May 19 2015, 07:34) *

Maybe I am too new but i don't know about any single patch which was so disruptive as this one. One thing or another going from the being the best option in the game to the lowest tier is he one thing. Patch that stops trading altogether and change the general feeling from "the cookie clicker" to the "roguelike" is something entirely different.

There many different complaints, new equip system being first and foremost, but If am allowed to summarize all of them in one phrase then it would be "Game became TOO difficult". And definitely not fun.


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post May 19 2015, 07:55
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At least, now I have only to visit repair tab just once or twice a day after 5 PFUDORfests with Repair Bear Mk. 1, as well as there's no need to buy catalysts to repair. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
A nice patch that removes some annoyingness. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 07:58
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ May 19 2015, 13:34) *

Maybe I am too new but i don't know about any single patch which was so disruptive as this one. One thing or another going from the being the best option in the game to the lowest tier is he one thing. Patch that stops trading altogether and changes the general feeling from "the cookie clicker" to the "roguelike" is something entirely different.

There many different complaints, new equip system being first and foremost, but If am allowed to summarize all of them in one phrase then it would be "Game became TOO difficult". And definitely not fun.

You are too young too simple, sometimes naive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Every large patch is like this. People also got banned for annoying 10B. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post May 19 2015, 07:58
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The game now actually punish you for leveling up, which is ridiculous, as leveling should be exciting, something a player look forward to, not dreading, just hoping the level never move before you finally find a better replacement for your "weaker and weaker" equipment. And that mostly depends on your luck...
I don't think a game punish you for playing it could be a fun game.
I mean, where's the fun of the game now? So what if you level up? You actually get weaker. So what if you get a peerless? PAB could be wrong, it could a just a light armor while you plainly stick to heavy, selling it is naught as equipment trading would be dead soon. You just get frustrated when you got a peerless you dont' need. So what you IW your item to max? It will get outdated the more you play.

Really I would like to know, what's the goal for this update is?

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post May 19 2015, 08:07
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 19 2015, 15:13) *

My two DwD/TTT/FSM clear all give exq craps. Together with the 50%+ average drop in clearing everything in PFUDOR.

The cost of holy mage (mp pot) is reaching the point that playing at PFUDOR arena barely cover the cost. For someone maxed the 4 drop related training.
With the completely death market and the equipment level. How can I making my gears catching up my level. I can only rely on the RE to bind my existing gears one by one? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


well you play Hellfest (i go through 500 rounds without using tap or potions) to generate potions, then you use that potions to play arena.

also, non-SG arena is not that bad after 10b increase the regen power
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post May 19 2015, 08:10
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 19 2015, 14:07) *

well you play Hellfest (i go through 500 rounds without using tap or potions) to generate potions, then you use that potions to play arena.

also, non-SG arena is not that bad after 10b increase the regen power

You forgot the repair and ED cost?
And with my current set, I cannot do that.

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post May 19 2015, 08:12
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well you play Hellfest (i go through 500 rounds without using tap or potions) to generate potions, then you use that potions to play arena.

I still remember the time when HV was not a soulless grind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post May 19 2015, 08:15
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QUOTE(Cashino @ May 18 2015, 22:53) *


Most of the changes on that patch makes sense though. The changes to the restoratives in the current patch make little sense at all.


The only hope for us low levelers to clear higher level (Hell/Nintendo+) arenas was to get potions to cover the difference. Previously, pack rat was a relatively cheap way to ensure our survivability for the last ten or so rounds when we don't have 10 million+ networth. Now... there's no way mages can survive even hell difficulty for level 150+ arenas. This is a patch designed to curb the supposed excesses of the elites at the expense of completely destroying higher difficulty viability of the lower caste.


We see here that even the level 450+ers with max equip drop perks still have trouble finding gear just from drops. What is the point of the bazaar then if us low levelers can't exchange our superior/exq drops for ones that fit our build?


1. You need a millions of credits to max the drop perks.
2. To get the millions of credits, you need to be high level and grind through many arenas.
3. To grind through many arenas and be high level, you need better and better equipment over time.
4. Your equipment no longer levels anymore - your current equipment will fall behind as you level, so there needs to be a way to find better equipment.
5. Now that bazaar and player exchanges are dead, you need the better drop perks.


See the circular logic here? And even if we do max the drop perks, even the level 400+ elites here are having trouble with finding equipment for their builds. What are us lower levels, without the means to clear arenas at higher difficulty, to do?


No bazaar, no player trade, no way to increase our odds for an equipment that is worth the soul fragments either.


What, do you want us to keep switching specialties based on the latest superior drop we found at our level? Then what's the point of the proficiency system?


Us lower levels are going to be forced to waste the soul fragments on superior quality crap just to clear normal difficulty at this rate.
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