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post May 18 2015, 06:30
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QUOTE(frankmelody @ May 18 2015, 12:24) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) O.K. Time to discuss the new Legendary equip's generation process. Is it true that the current equip can have each stat over the original Legmax value? I've seen many ridiculous equips, for example a legendary staff of focus with 30% mana conservation, a mag staff of destruction with original Leg level MDB. I feel like this is not tenb was hoping for. Please pull out the Legendary level list and check.

yes, new leg can have pmax
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post May 18 2015, 06:31
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Ran another 200 rounds on PFUDOR. All I got was piece of shit average and superior equipment.

I got better drops pre-patch! And that's saying a lot when most of the equipment was trash before the patch!
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post May 18 2015, 06:34
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 17 2015, 23:30) *

yes, new leg can have pmax


the mana conservation 30% definitely outbid the original PMAX value. Also some legendary power adb has more than Pmax value.

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post May 18 2015, 06:42
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QUOTE(frankmelody @ May 18 2015, 06:34) *

the mana conservation 30% definitely outbid the original PMAX value. Also some legendary power adb has more than Pmax value.


I think this is because of the increased power ADB mentioned in the first post, unless you mean power of slaughter.
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post May 18 2015, 06:44
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ May 17 2015, 23:42) *

I think this is because of the increased power ADB mentioned in the first post, unless you mean power of slaughter.


that's actually a leg power warding (that's probably what tenb says "NON-SLAUGHTER SUFFIXES ARE STRONGER.") yep agree you says. But that mana conservation 30% is still confusing.

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post May 18 2015, 06:57
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Happy with the patch, i get a lot of upgrades ! Thanks 10B (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 07:05
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So all non slaughter gear is better now.
need to re farm everything
then next patch hv will have Ancient Items (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 07:08
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QUOTE(danixxx @ May 18 2015, 06:57) *
Happy with the patch, i get a lot of upgrades ! Thanks 10B (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

HV is a browser game boasting its number of player: 2
Soon™.
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post May 18 2015, 07:10
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I need more time with the patch, but so far I find it hard to get excited about new loot because actually finding something that has the potential to fit into my suit still seems to be pretty difficult. In the past three years I've only found one wind legendary; everything I use was purchased from other players. I just don't see legendaries with the correct type, prefix, and suffix lining up that often.
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post May 18 2015, 07:16
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QUOTE(n125 @ May 18 2015, 13:10) *

I need more time with the patch, but so far I find it hard to get excited about new loot because actually finding something that has the potential to fit into my suit still seems to be pretty difficult. In the past three years I've only found one wind legendary; everything I use was purchased from other players. I just don't see legendaries with the correct type, prefix, and suffix lining up that often.

Its the nature of this type of game. Trading is a must to get the gear we want.
If we are really to play self found we need diabloverse drop rate. Like a leg drop every 5 min.
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post May 18 2015, 07:19
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So lost right now. I died 4 times from random encounters before I realised my stats had been reset. Then I realised that a lot of things I wanted to trade for are useless now as they are too high level req.

Don't play that much so not too bothered by the above, but it's going to be a little awkward to try and buy used gear from others now (staring at the lvl 400+ items in the shop).
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post May 18 2015, 07:26
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It is actually a one way trading, lower level players will be able to sell to higher level players only (and probably only for gear that is good enough to soulfuse). However with the money they make, they will only be able to but things like materials (or super good gear from even lower level players).

Either way it will make trading extremely inefficient (which if you like finding your own gear, it is a good thing).
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post May 18 2015, 07:31
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 18 2015, 07:03) *

1582.

So forging WIS is now necessary to survive as a mage.

QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 18 2015, 08:57) *

By the time 1.0 is out only Tenboro will remain (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(n125 @ May 18 2015, 09:24) *

there's a kitty at stake. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Where? I don't see any.

QUOTE(WhiteWolfRevy92 @ May 18 2015, 09:39) *

P.S: Kill that cat! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

So the Kitty really is in danger. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(frankmelody @ May 18 2015, 09:54) *

a legendary staff of focus with 30% mana conservation

Is this true? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 18 2015, 10:46) *

If we are really to play self found we need diabloverse drop rate. Like a leg drop every 5 min.

Hey, Diablo games aren't THAT rewarding! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 07:35
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ May 18 2015, 06:26) *

Either way it will make trading extremely inefficient (which if you like finding your own gear, it is a good thing).



And a bad thing if you want to have gameplay reason to interact with other players.

Moreover, while trading itself is merely difficult, without some kind of automated system (Tenboro once called it auction house) it would be unreasonably hard to find a trade partner. Because of additional variety "search forum" will become useless for WTS and the only way to find desirable trade would be to read every thread.

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post May 18 2015, 07:38
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 18 2015, 13:31) *

Hey, Diablo games aren't THAT rewarding! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Really? Last time I played it was pretty good, got all the set pieces in less than a week. Doing some leaderboard casually.
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 17 2015, 22:16) *

Its the nature of this type of game. Trading is a must to get the gear we want.
If we are really to play self found we need diabloverse drop rate. Like a leg drop every 5 min.


Natural gear progression works at the lower levels, but once you start getting into higher-end gear, it slows to a crawl and becomes very difficult without trading. And right now, trading...doesn't really work well. So I wonder what the next plan is.

QUOTE(tetron @ May 17 2015, 22:31) *

Where? I don't see any.


You didn't see the screen-filling cat picture in the first post? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 07:58
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QUOTE(danixxx @ May 18 2015, 06:57) *

Happy with the patch, i get a lot of upgrades ! Thanks 10B (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

all hail Snowflake Perk? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ May 18 2015, 11:08) *

Really? Last time I played it was pretty good, got all the set pieces in less than a week. Doing some leaderboard casually.

You've just been lucky. General loot in Diablo aren't THAT good. Torchlight series gives Diablo franchise 5 goals int that department! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(n125 @ May 18 2015, 11:11) *

You didn't see the screen-filling cat picture in the first post? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Wow, someone actually ate my bait! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post May 18 2015, 08:02
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ May 17 2015, 18:36) *

New system have prohibitively strict restrictions. when you can only buy equips of your level or less, chances are high that best equipment available to you is already yours, at least it got your level, and not your level-30.

System where you can equip items that are 20% higher than your level or just your level+50 would have much more chances for trading between players, while still prohibiting lvl400 to lvl 200 sale.


A thought that comes to mind for me is to give players a small pool of "overlevel" equipment allowance. So you can, say, have equipment that is a total of 50 levels above yours.

e.g. If you are level 200, you could have a Lv250 weapon with all of your armour <= Lv200 or you could have a Lv220 weapon, a Lv220 shield and a Lv210 helmet.

Possibly even make it something that can be trained. You start with 10 and can train it in +5 level steps perhaps.

QUOTE(utsurimono @ May 17 2015, 23:15) *

A more likely answer is it's annoying as a game designer when you give people 15 consumables and 15 slots and everyone stocks almost every slot with the exact same consumable, not even varying by play style ... and maybe they use 1 or 2 other things, but half the items you designed aren't used anywhere but novelty/joke sets.


From what Tenboro said, it's specifically to block strategies based on rapid potion use.
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QUOTE(n125 @ May 18 2015, 06:41) *

You didn't see the screen-filling cat picture in the first post? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Ceci n'est pas une minette
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