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I really envy you high level guys

at least you've already gotten decent stuff
all my stuff sucks shit

I really envy you high level guys

at least you've already gotten decent stuff
all my stuff sucks shit

Agreed.

Agreed.

The items dropped this patch are much better than any items dropped in previous patches.

Maybe try a little and you'll get a good item, too!

The items dropped this patch are much better than any items dropped in previous patches.

Maybe try a little and you'll get a good item, too!

My current problem is I can't PFUDOR try, I can only IWBTH try.
It's problematic.

The items dropped this patch are much better than any items dropped in previous patches.

Maybe try a little and you'll get a good item, too!

Maybe the best possible items are better, but, especially with how LotD was changed, the mean quality isn't as good. I've gotten exactly one useful item drop since the patch, playing on IWBTH and PFUDOR. And that was just a Magnificent.

My current problem is I can't PFUDOR try, I can only IWBTH try.
It's problematic.

Maybe the best possible items are better, but, especially with how LotD was changed, the mean quality isn't as good. I've gotten exactly one useful item drop since the patch, playing on IWBTH and PFUDOR. And that was just a Magnificent.

Both of you should try buying some equipment from other players, then.

Don't go for the top tier items, instead go for something suitable at your level.

I really envy you high level guys

at least you've already gotten decent stuff
all my stuff sucks shit

Getting to 300ish is the first hurdle, which was made much more difficult due to level-binding equipment. But after that, it's quite possible to buy upgrades from others every once in a while. You'll likely never find an upgrade for yourself.

It's not hard to get to around 300 with only a moderate amount of playtime, if one has sufficient knowledge of the game.

My current problem is I can't PFUDOR try, I can only IWBTH try.
It's problematic.

HV is gear game, every high lvl player got good legendary gear since before patch. it have good PMI and MMI.

their AD damage(or mage or DW) is 12k +- damage.

if new player want good dealing they must trade good gear.

solution is trade. newbie must give many credits to high lvl player. it's HV gear economy system.

problem is too stong and too many hp mobs, it designed by high lvl player gear. HV need too many trade.

low lvl player need good gear. - high lvl player want not hear it.

becoz they want ignore low lvl player opinions.

they want only credits. and saying "use shop! buy good gear! ur gear was been bad, i buy item same it!"

My current problem is I can't PFUDOR try, I can only IWBTH try.
It's problematic.

At 300 you'll likely be able to PFUDOR everywhere with no problem. Time required depends on how good your gear is, but it'll still be doable regardless.

if new player want good dealing they must trade good gear.

solution is trade. newbie must give many credits to high lvl player. it's HV gear economy system.

problem is too stong and too many hp mobs, it designed by high lvl player gear. HV need too many trade.

low lvl player need good gear. - high lvl player want not hear it.

becoz they want ignore low lvl player opinions.

they want only credits. and saying "use shop! buy good gear! ur gear was been bad, i buy item same it!"

It used to be very easy to get a decent set that could last someone until level 300+. Mag/Leg leather and plate was super cheap, and those which are still level unassigned generally are quite cheap. (<150k for full set). This was good for both low level players and high level players.

0.82 has killed that system though. It doesn't hurt high level players all that much, because it's not like selling cheap low-quality gear got them a whole lot of profit. But it has made it an order of magnitude more difficult for low level players, because they're stuck with using their crappy selffound Superiors for a very long time (and they also usually don't have the soul fragments to soulfuse, so whatever crap they will have to use will usually be quite bad).

In other words: don't blame high level players, blame the 0.82 system instead.

Also, it's nice to see a non-spam post for once (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Jul 16 2015, 00:46

0.82 has killed that system though. It doesn't hurt high level players all that much, because it's not like selling cheap low-quality gear got them a whole lot of profit. But it has made it an order of magnitude more difficult for low level players, because they're stuck with using their crappy selffound Superiors for a very long time (and they also usually don't have the soul fragments to soulfuse, so whatever crap they will have to use will usually be quite bad).

I agree that the new system has made it more difficult for players who are willing to buy gear from others, but I believe there is more gratification in getting gear via drops or via the shrine instead of paying someone else. However, high, mid, or low level it doesn't matter where a player is, they can get soul fragments for free via RE. I've already soulfused multiple items and have now started hoarding for when I can replace my lower end gear.

Both of you should try buying some equipment from other players, then.

Don't go for the top tier items, instead go for something suitable at your level.

Not with the amount of credits I have. I just have no time to grind arenas to build up cash.

edit: To clarify, this isn't "wah wah poor me". What drops for me is what drops, and I'm cool using that. I've just gotten less useful stuff since the patch is all, and the shops are a bit out of my league. It is what it is.

This post has been edited by Panuru: Jul 16 2015, 04:16

I agree that the new system has made it more difficult for players who are willing to buy gear from others, but I believe there is more gratification in getting gear via drops or via the shrine instead of paying someone else. However, high, mid, or low level it doesn't matter where a player is, they can get soul fragments for free via RE. I've already soulfused multiple items and have now started hoarding for when I can replace my lower end gear.

You won't be gratified much when people are getting legendaries left and right while you're stuck with 2pab magnificents once in a while because you can't play pfudor nor gear yourselves up

Though if you luck out with a legendary piece that end game players want... ka-ching!

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jul 16 2015, 04:30

You won't be gratified much when people are getting legendaries left and right while you're stuck with 2pab magnificents once in a while because you can't play pfudor nor gear yourselves up

Though if you luck out with a legendary piece that end game players want... ka-ching!

This is my current situation to a T.
Those phase gloves got my hopes up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I really envy you high level guys

at least you've already gotten decent stuff
all my stuff sucks shit

My equipments are shitty... i envy the lower levels... they can sell their stuff to others... level 500 dudes dont!. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by piyin: Jul 16 2015, 06:03

But the main problem though isn't whether your gear may be good or not but the item level becoming far lower than your current level

It's pretty easy for levels below 100 to reach 200+ in less than a week
Heck maybe even just a day

The only way for items to stay on your level is by soulbinding them and not many low level players can do that if they don't play HV like their life depends on it

But the main problem though isn't whether your gear may be good or not but the item level becoming far lower than your current level

It's pretty easy for levels below 100 to reach 200+ in less than a week
Heck maybe even just a day

The only way for items to stay on your level is by soulbinding them and not many low level players can do that if they don't play HV like their life depends on it

The drop mechanism for soul fragments certainly doesn't help. It would be nice if it was simply the first 6 RE of each day that you get them from, as it is now it is difficult to ensure you get the 6 each day. The other issue is the cost, it would be nice if the cost of soulfusing was dependent on not just the item level but the item quality.

Leg+ could be 100% cost, Mag 80%, Exq 50%, Sup 35%.

The other mechanism I would like to see for soulbinidng is for costs to scale based on player level so that the maximum level difference that you can soulbind an item only reaches 100% at max player level. I think there was some discussion around something like that not sure though.

The drop mechanism for soul fragments certainly doesn't help. It would be nice if it was simply the first 6 RE of each day that you get them from, as it is now it is difficult to ensure you get the 6 each day. The other issue is the cost, it would be nice if the cost of soulfusing was dependent on not just the item level but the item quality.

Leg+ could be 100% cost, Mag 80%, Exq 50%, Sup 35%.

The other mechanism I would like to see for soulbinidng is for costs to scale based on player level so that the maximum level difference that you can soulbind an item only reaches 100% at max player level. I think there was some discussion around something like that not sure though.

This was actually discussed before but nothing came out of it.

This was actually discussed before but nothing came out of it.

Thought as much.....

HV is gear game, every high lvl player got good legendary gear since before patch. it have good PMI and MMI.

their AD damage(or mage or DW) is 12k +- damage.

if new player want good dealing they must trade good gear.

solution is trade. newbie must give many credits to high lvl player. it's HV gear economy system.

problem is too stong and too many hp mobs, it designed by high lvl player gear. HV need too many trade.

low lvl player need good gear. - high lvl player want not hear it.

becoz they want ignore low lvl player opinions.

they want only credits. and saying "use shop! buy good gear! ur gear was been bad, i buy item same it!"

only 1 melee player that surpass 12k ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

HV is gear game, every high lvl player got good legendary gear since before patch. it have good PMI and MMI.

It's true, and I expect that you will have good legendary when you get to high level too.

their AD damage(or mage or DW) is 12k +- damage.

My AD is ~ 6k when using my melee set.

if new player want good dealing they must trade good gear.

Generally, the old and high level players also must trade to get the correct type of gear.

solution is trade. newbie must give many credits to high lvl player. it's HV gear economy system.

No longer. Now, you trade with other players around your level.

Well, that's not strictly true. You can sell good gear to high level players. This results in the low-level good gear being priced too high for low level players (which is good for the low-level player who is selling, because he gets rich).

What is the alternative? Do you want the low-level good gear to be not-tradeable / not usable by high level players? That means the low-level player who found and sold the gear won't get so much credits for it. But there's a marginally larger number of good gear for the pool of lower-level players to compete for. This is another balance - do you think this is better?

problem is too stong and too many hp mobs, it designed by high lvl player gear. HV need too many trade.

well... play on lower difficulty?

low lvl player need good gear. - high lvl player want not hear it.

becoz they want ignore low lvl player opinions.

they want only credits. and saying "use shop! buy good gear! ur gear was been bad, i buy item same it!"

Sorry, I understand that you're frustrated about something, but I don't understand exactly what you're frustrated about, and what you'd want to change. Apart from giving everyone good gear.

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jul 16 2015, 15:29