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post Jun 10 2015, 05:12
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 10 2015, 04:50) *

Actually I still want soul fragments for the equipment I have. I just don't want to level up further until I have them, this way I still get the fragments and don't have to worry about leveling up while trying to get them.

Once I have the fragments for my equipment I plan to keep on playing. ^^ It would take forever to earn them in combat. and i'm barely earning any credits in battle to make up the money necessary to buy them from the item shop. this way I can get enough credits for the fragments to soulbind and still have time to level up before my equipment becomes completely useless.... ^^;;;


QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 10 2015, 10:55) *

Oh I already got a few of them from loot. its just that since the experience necessary for leveling up has been lowered I don't want to get my level to the point where my equipment becomes impossible to soulbind.

Doing it this way I can still enjoy the benefits of my equipment leveling up with me, I would rather soulbind all my equipment first then play, since without the benefit of soulbind my equipment would quickly become useless as I leveled up and the monsters continually get stronger while I remain the same.

Sure I can handle the battles now, but without the benefit of soulbinding it would eventually become impossible to do enough damage to win battles without dying many times. Plus there is the fact I don't have enough hath yet to afford the damage boosting perks yet. Doing things this way, I can enjoy all the benefits with none of the downsides.

Hope that explains my reasoning.....



The problem is, do you feel the need to soulbind your current gears? Or do you want to take a chance to find more useful items when leveling up?

Sometimes the problem was not about what you wear, your level and abilities can play a important role in combat too.

If you boost your abilities that are critical to your battle style according to you level, unless you power leveling like crazy or you have a perfect gear already, otherwise the problem of gears should not be extreme significant comparing to some advantages gain from moderate leveling.

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post Jun 10 2015, 05:26
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There is no base. Upgrade twice and you have 10% chance, upgrade 20 times and you have 100% chance.
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It doesn't round between calculating the base number of gifts and rolling for double, so it's quite possible if you get something like ~2.5 base gifts.
I don't quite get it either. I guess small parts of gifts are continuously generated and stored?

So those with 2.5 base gifts on a monster (with double gift), if they had waited a bit longer, their monster would have had 3 base gifts, giving them the expected total of 6 gifts?
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post Jun 10 2015, 06:13
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The problem is, do you feel the need to soulbind your current gears? Or do you want to take a chance to find more useful items when leveling up?

Sometimes the problem was not about what you wear, your level and abilities can play a important role in combat too.

If you boost your abilities that are critical to your battle style according to you level, unless you power leveling like crazy or you have a perfect gear already, otherwise the problem of gears should not be extreme significant comparing to some advantages gain from moderate leveling.


The problem is the gear I have now was hard enough to find/earn in the first place. plus my weapon is one of the harder to find ones and really useful at the level i am now, but as I level up it will become worthless and finding a higher class of it would really take some serious luck, and not for lack of trying. For right now I need the equipment soulbound to keep me alive long enough to make it worthwhile.

If I find a better variation of what I have I will use it even if its not soulbound, but the odds of me finding what I really want are pretty darn low even with luck of the draw maxed out.

Hell I have only come across a higher version of what I am looking for once and I didn't have enough credits to afford it at the time. and now with the way gear has level requirements the odds are even lower then before. So for now I do need the equipment Soulbound. well, at least until I have enough Hath to earn the damage boosting perks, in which case it will make it much easier to get better equips or at least allow me to survive long enough to upgrade it to higher level in IW.

Plus my weapon is an ethereal, and making it soulbound makes it even better. ^^
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post Jun 10 2015, 06:32
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QUOTE(Nyvil @ Jun 10 2015, 03:12) *

Sometimes the problem was not about what you wear, your level and abilities can play a important role in combat too.

If you boost your abilities that are critical to your battle style according to you level, unless you power leveling like crazy or you have a perfect gear already, otherwise the problem of gears should not be extreme significant comparing to some advantages gain from moderate leveling.

I agree. Thanks to the handy reset button on the abilities page, it is easy to experiment with different abilities to see what works best at your current level. I've been doing that recently and have been pleased with the results.
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post Jun 10 2015, 06:39
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 9 2015, 21:13) *

The problem is the gear I have now was hard enough to find/earn in the first place. plus my weapon is one of the harder to find ones and really useful at the level i am now, but as I level up it will become worthless and finding a higher class of it would really take some serious luck, and not for lack of trying. For right now I need the equipment soulbound to keep me alive long enough to make it worthwhile.

If I find a better variation of what I have I will use it even if its not soulbound, but the odds of me finding what I really want are pretty darn low even with luck of the draw maxed out.

Hell I have only come across a higher version of what I am looking for once and I didn't have enough credits to afford it at the time. and now with the way gear has level requirements the odds are even lower then before. So for now I do need the equipment Soulbound. well, at least until I have enough Hath to earn the damage boosting perks, in which case it will make it much easier to get better equips or at least allow me to survive long enough to upgrade it to higher level in IW.

Plus my weapon is an ethereal, and making it soulbound makes it even better. ^^


If your equipment is good enough, feel free to soulbound. Though I don't think you need to soulbound any equipment in your levels. I am curious how good your equipment are. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Jun 10 2015, 07:02
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If your equipment is good enough, feel free to soulbound. Though I don't think you need to soulbound any equipment in your levels. I am curious how good your equipment are. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Jun 10 2015, 07:03
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If your equipment is good enough, feel free to soulbound. I am curious how good your equipment are. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Well I managed to get all the elemental mitigations except cold and dark with the set of armor I have, and I haven't even leveled it up in the IW yet, plus the resist and evade bonuses are pretty good for the quality that the armor is.

So I would say for the moment its a good set. I have nearly 70% mitigation for magic and physical and almost 30% block, and thats without any forge upgrades or potency levels. So if I soulbind, then by the time I reach godslayer rank I won't have many problems in combat. oh and I got all this good equipment when I was only level 60 and I am level 145 now.
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post Jun 10 2015, 07:16
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I'm quite skeptical that equipment gotten at level 60 is worth soulbinding, but it's your millions of credits.
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post Jun 10 2015, 07:20
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I'm quite skeptical that equipment gotten at level 60 is worth soulbinding, but it's your millions of credits.


the equipment I got is pre-patch. So it was able to level up with me to the point its at now.
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post Jun 10 2015, 07:35
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 9 2015, 20:13) *

The problem is the gear I have now was hard enough to find/earn in the first place. plus my weapon is one of the harder to find ones and really useful at the level i am now, but as I level up it will become worthless and finding a higher class of it would really take some serious luck, and not for lack of trying. For right now I need the equipment soulbound to keep me alive long enough to make it worthwhile.

If I find a better variation of what I have I will use it even if its not soulbound, but the odds of me finding what I really want are pretty darn low even with luck of the draw maxed out.

Hell I have only come across a higher version of what I am looking for once and I didn't have enough credits to afford it at the time. and now with the way gear has level requirements the odds are even lower then before. So for now I do need the equipment Soulbound. well, at least until I have enough Hath to earn the damage boosting perks, in which case it will make it much easier to get better equips or at least allow me to survive long enough to upgrade it to higher level in IW.

Plus my weapon is an ethereal, and making it soulbound makes it even better. ^^

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post Jun 10 2015, 07:41
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 10 2015, 13:03) *

Well I managed to get all the elemental mitigations except cold and dark with the set of armor I have, and I haven't even leveled it up in the IW yet, plus the resist and evade bonuses are pretty good for the quality that the armor is.

So I would say for the moment its a good set. I have nearly 70% mitigation for magic and physical and almost 30% block, and thats without any forge upgrades or potency levels. So if I soulbind, then by the time I reach godslayer rank I won't have many problems in combat. oh and I got all this good equipment when I was only level 60 and I am level 145 now.


From what you said, are you using heavy armor with one-hand weapon and shield?

Although you mentioned that your gear has high mitigations, I'm interested on how much evade and resist % you have. Instead of pushing mitigations to the top (which is impossible), spare some gears on evade, parry and resist can be more efficient, which allows you to try other fighting styles.

In addition, if you are piling up your dense, it is reasonable to forge damage upgrades in order to increase your DPS since first 5 lvl of upgrade don't require bindings.

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post Jun 10 2015, 07:54
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QUOTE(Nyvil @ Jun 9 2015, 23:41) *

From what you said, are you using heavy armor with one-hand weapon and shield?

Although you mentioned that your gear has high mitigations, I'm interested on how much evade and resist % you have. Instead of pushing mitigations to the top (which is impossible), spare some gears on evade, parry and resist can be more efficient, which allows you to try other fighting styles.


I have only one piece of heavy armor, everything else is either cloth or light. I have 20% Resist and my Evade is about 11%, though I haven't upgraded any of my equipment in the forge or gained any potency levels for any of my equipment it will likely go much higher when I finally do. Plus I have yet to earn the next rank which will also increase it.

All my stats are from leveling pre-patch, no hath perks, no forging, no potency. I just found a good set and I kept using it to get were I am ^^
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post Jun 10 2015, 07:57
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the equipment I got is pre-patch. So it was able to level up with me to the point its at now.
Sure, but that doesn't mean it's good enough to be worth soulbinding, unless you have millions to throw away. Maybe post equipment links in Ask the Experts thread?
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post Jun 10 2015, 08:16
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I have only one piece of heavy armor, everything else is either cloth or light.

Are you wearing a mixture of cloth, light, and heavy armor?
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Are you wearing a mixture of cloth, light, and heavy armor?


One piece of heavy armor, 2 cloth one 1 light. though I plan to switch to just cloth and the heavy armor once I find a better piece of cloth.
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post Jun 10 2015, 08:34
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One piece of heavy armor, 2 cloth one 1 light. though I plan to switch to just cloth and the heavy armor once I find a better piece of cloth.
Oh man.

Yeah, definitely better to hold off on soulfusing if you're still at that point.

Best to use only one type of armor (cloth, light, or heavy) so you can get the quite significant proficiency bonuses associated with them. Cloth is for mage, light and heavy is for melee.
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jun 9 2015, 23:25) *

One piece of heavy armor, 2 cloth one 1 light. though I plan to switch to just cloth and the heavy armor once I find a better piece of cloth.


Oh, you have not known how to play the game yet. Save your credits to buy one set of heavy armors, even though they are as cheap as thousands of credits, you will play better than you did.
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post Jun 10 2015, 08:47
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Double gifts:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1998169But...

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2625735I don't quite get it either. I guess small parts of gifts are continuously generated and stored?

So those with 2.5 base gifts on a monster (with double gift), if they had waited a bit longer, their monster would have had 3 base gifts, giving them the expected total of 6 gifts?


I don't quite understand it either. So, it's possible to check too frequently for gifts? Eg, 1.4 doubles to 2.8 (which would probably be 2 gifts), while waiting a bit longer would be 1.5 double to 3.

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Hell I have only come across a higher version of what I am looking for once and I didn't have enough credits to afford it at the time. and now with the way gear has level requirements the odds are even lower then before. So for now I do need the equipment Soulbound. well, at least until I have enough Hath to earn the damage boosting perks, in which case it will make it much easier to get better equips or at least allow me to survive long enough to upgrade it to higher level in IW.


You are proposing to purchase enough soul fragments to bind 7 pieces of equipment - that's currently 50 fragments x 7 = 350fragments = 7m credits. And, there's no telling whether Tenboro will revert the requirement back to 100 soul fragments per equipment.

Nor do I see you in the toplists; do you have the 6.5m GP to bind one equipment; 45m GP to bind seven equipment, or how long would it take to do so?

Are you sure your equipment is worth 7m credits? 7m credits can buy quite a lot of equipment at the auctions. You're also low-enough level to get a discount at several shops in WTS.

Edit: eek. how do you get 70+% PMI and MMI from a combination of equipment types?

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I don't know about your armor and stuff being mixed. It seems like a really bad idea to me since you miss out on any ability bonuses for wearing full matching set.

But you said something about having close to 30% Block thats got to be a shield right. Thats I'm pretty sure is not worth soulfusing.

Shield

I think this would give you more block and I bought it for like 13k at the bazaar, there was like 10 other of them with all similar stats. Unless you have a buckler where interference drops down but then again I don't think it was super rare enough to waste 1mil+ soulfusing per equip.

Also the gains from soulfusing shield isn't amazing or anything from memory theres a few discussion of people saying how underwhelmed they were after soulfusing shield.



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Are you sure your equipment is worth 7m credits?
If he's still mixing different types of armor, it definitely isn't. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Also the gains from soulfusing shield isn't amazing or anything from memory theres a few discussion of people saying how underwhelmed they were after soulfusing shield.
Yeah... the most important stat is block chance, but it scales up very very slowly. PABs do scale at a reasonable rate, but once a player is high enough level, the effect of better PABs is barely felt at all. A player could probably keep using their shield bound to lower level for quite some time, and only soulfuse (if at all) after they gain 100 levels, or once they have a lot of spare fragments.
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