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May 30 2015, 02:48
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SakakiFan01
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 28 2015, 21:46)  That's exactly why low-level shouldn't play mage, mana issues. At high level (and with good forged gears), mages can kill fast enough for the mana potions to be insignificant, while infinite potion lets us last very long in grindfest. On the other hand, low level will need to spam either mana potion or ether tap, making it a very inefficient style.
It sounds to me like you're saying I should efficiency spam, hunker down behind some super-perfect set of armor that bounces all attacks, and spend all day bashing away with little to no variation... In all the console rpg's I've ever played, I've had an awful time figuring out bs subtle stategeries to defeat special monsters and bosses. Part of that is impatience; and part of that is an ABSOLUTE LOATHING for efficiency gaming based on (effectively) rules lawyering. (Sorry, but as an old Star Fleet Battles player; if anyone these days even remembers that; I grew to despise rules lawyers.) My solution was to be so brute-force strong moster strengths and weaknesses didn't matter... the 'HULK SMASH!' style of playing. Call it a lack of imagination if you must; I call it not having time to waste when I just want to sit down and collect some points to download doujins. I won combat-maging and the monsters lost; how is that inefficient?
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May 30 2015, 03:13
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skillchip
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 29 2015, 20:11)  Funny guy. I'm just going to start banning people who post fake screenshots in here.
Do it! Also man I still suck at this game
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May 30 2015, 03:22
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千石 撫子
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 30 2015, 08:35)  You've completed thousands of arenas in 12 days? How many accounts are you running?
future drop included. Try to clear 'First blood' In past,you have chance to get legendary, now,its only average. (in x20,too low difficulty may get crude)
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May 30 2015, 03:48
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 30 2015, 10:48)  It sounds to me like you're saying I should efficiency spam, hunker down behind some super-perfect set of armor that bounces all attacks, and spend all day bashing away with little to no variation...
In all the console rpg's I've ever played, I've had an awful time figuring out bs subtle stategeries to defeat special monsters and bosses.
Part of that is impatience; and part of that is an ABSOLUTE LOATHING for efficiency gaming based on (effectively) rules lawyering. (Sorry, but as an old Star Fleet Battles player; if anyone these days even remembers that; I grew to despise rules lawyers.)
My solution was to be so brute-force strong moster strengths and weaknesses didn't matter... the 'HULK SMASH!' style of playing.
Call it a lack of imagination if you must; I call it not having time to waste when I just want to sit down and collect some points to download doujins.
I won combat-maging and the monsters lost; how is that inefficient?
Well you're free to play the game way you want. The game is ridiculously hard and 10b intends for it to be like that so you're only wasting even more time playing it inefficiently. Anyhow, the most efficient way to play this game is not playing it. Get a cheap VPS to run H@H. One year of running will give enough credit to last you a lifetime of hentai This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 30 2015, 03:49
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May 30 2015, 03:56
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 29 2015, 20:48)  My solution was to be so brute-force strong moster strengths and weaknesses didn't matter... the 'HULK SMASH!' style of playing. You're not doing that with one-handed style. How are you having mana issues with one-handed, anyway? QUOTE not having time to waste when I just want to sit down and collect some points to download doujins. Playing the 'verse strictly for downloads is objectively a waste of time. Try uploading something. QUOTE I won combat-maging and the monsters lost; how is that inefficient? If you mean battlecasting without old battlecaster gear, please explain. Even then, you still shouldn't be having mana issues. Are you rotating elements or something?
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May 30 2015, 04:41
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SakakiFan01
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 29 2015, 20:48)  Well you're free to play the game way you want. The game is ridiculously hard and 10b intends for it to be like that so you're only wasting even more time playing it inefficiently.
Anyhow, the most efficient way to play this game is not playing it. Get a cheap VPS to run H@H. One year of running will give enough credit to last you a lifetime of hentai
I wouldn't touch anything smacking of torrent with the Death Star Laser Cannon. H@H sounds too much like torrent; so NWIH. (No way am I leaving my computer on 24/7, and too much hassle, even with a VPS, from looking at the faq page.) QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 29 2015, 20:56)  You're not doing that with one-handed style. How are you having mana issues with one-handed, anyway?
Light armor, axe and shield. (Armor: whatever looked good that I found from drops.) Attacks supplemented by Heartseeker, haste, and Spirit Channeling, with an occasional Shield Bash, Vital Strike, and Smite. Defense supplemented by Protection, Regen, Shadow Veil, (and Haste,) with an occasional Silence and Weaken. Elemental Magic was used only on initial fights, (3-4 monsters,) just to boost Magic Proficiency. (I actually just passed 150, and can now access the Third Tier spells.) ((edit:) Actually... Since my goal all along was to gain access the Third Tier Spells, and I have; I guess I don't need to worry so much about using elemental magic any more...)Healing potions were nearly useless, except for emergency HP recovery; using Battle Item slots for Mana Potions provided a better return. QUOTE Playing the 'verse strictly for downloads is objectively a waste of time. Try uploading something. I'm with Trinity Translations. The person who uploads sends me points. QUOTE If you mean battlecasting without old battlecaster gear, please explain. Even then, you still shouldn't be having mana issues. Are you rotating elements or something?
See above for the first part. For the second part; I think the answer is 'yes.' As a part of working to up Elemental Proficiency; I would tap each of the four elements at least once per fight, along with an occasional Smite. This post has been edited by SakakiFan01: May 30 2015, 05:49
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May 30 2015, 05:13
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 29 2015, 21:41)  I wouldn't touch anything smacking of torrent with the Death Star Laser Cannon.
H@H sounds too much like torrent; so NWIH.
Baseless paranoia. I've been using torrent for 12+ years and H@H for 6+ years. Tens of thousands of torrents downloaded. A few hundred uploaded here even. Millions of files served on H@H. 0 problems. Your loss.
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May 30 2015, 05:26
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SakakiFan01
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 29 2015, 22:13)  Baseless paranoia.
I've been using torrent for 12+ years and H@H for 6+ years. Tens of thousands of torrents downloaded. A few hundred uploaded here even. Millions of files served on H@H. 0 problems.
Your loss.
Baseless paranoia huh? First doujin torrent I ever downloaded had something in it that killed my computer at the time. My loss? Yep; it sure was. This post has been edited by SakakiFan01: May 30 2015, 05:28
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May 30 2015, 05:45
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 29 2015, 22:26)  Baseless paranoia huh? First doujin torrent I ever downloaded had something in it that killed my computer at the time.
My loss? Yep; it sure was.
Your fault for being stupid and not being able to recognize viruses and malware then. And for probably not having active virus/malware prevention.
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May 30 2015, 05:58
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sssss2
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It seems that the potion cooltime increased to 41 turns.
Does anyone else notice it?
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May 30 2015, 06:30
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SakakiFan01
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 29 2015, 22:45)  Your fault for being stupid and not being able to recognize viruses and malware then. And for probably not having active virus/malware prevention.
True about my knowledge concerning AV at the time. I cannot help but be touched by your concern; doing all you can with your bountiful wisdom and wealth of experience to sway me and ease my fears about torrents. This post has been edited by SakakiFan01: May 30 2015, 06:40
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May 30 2015, 06:40
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Nyvil
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 30 2015, 12:30)  I cannot help but be touched by your concern.
Well... in a more general sense, every profit/gain comes with risks, free torrent = possible virus There is always a safer option, but a lot of people do not give a fart
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May 30 2015, 07:31
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Colman
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QUOTE(Nyvil @ May 30 2015, 12:40)  Well... in a more general sense, every profit/gain comes with risks, free torrent = possible virus
There is always a safer option, but a lot of people do not give a fart
A lot of people only give a fap (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 30 2015, 08:16
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its-just-me
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With the item level returning i find 2 changes would be useful.
1) the base value for a stat should be shown in brackets without having to open the pop-up. 2) when mousing over an item it would be nice if the currently equipped item in that slot is shown.
This would be helpful for browsing the shop so i could see if an item listed is actually better than mine or its just better because its ~50 levels higher than mine without needing 3 browser windows open and possibly having the item bought out or recycled out of the shop while you compare.
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May 30 2015, 08:50
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 29 2015, 22:41)  H@H There's also the adopt a server option. QUOTE axe Use rapier with infusions and permastance, or club + melee skills if you don't have shade. QUOTE haste Don't need it until higher difficulties. QUOTE Smite. Don't need it. Or replace with dark + spirit theft. Is it even worth doing now with the new pots? QUOTE Shadow Veil Some say don't use so you can get more counters and stuns. QUOTE Third Tier spells Only matter for thefting. Low tier spells have longer proc durations, but outside of specific gimmick builds, those are turns better spent just attacking. QUOTE Healing potions were nearly useless, except for emergency HP recovery; using Battle Item slots for Mana Potions provided a better return. No longer true post-patch. Keep a health draught on at all times. Use health potions over cure when you can, and the occasional defend will cut down on costs. Use mana pots and draughts if you want to save turns and kill faster. On lower difficulties, you shouldn't need any pots at all, even with bazaar trash. As for torrents, you shouldn't have any problem with funky stuff in torrents here. Sandboxing and virtual machines are options if you really want to be safe.
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May 30 2015, 09:28
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karyl123
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QUOTE(SakakiFan01 @ May 30 2015, 10:26)  Baseless paranoia huh? First doujin torrent I ever downloaded had something in it that killed my computer at the time.
My loss? Yep; it sure was.
ittsss yer fauuulltttt. always download from trusted sites. dont download random torrentttttttt JAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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May 30 2015, 09:53
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marathon1
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I got to about page 40 and just can't read anymore. Patch seems neat, is there an assigned deadline that I need to wear unassigned equips by?
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May 30 2015, 11:40
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kumosu
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Strategy for gaining less exp while still getting 'em soulfuzzies Step 1: * Do not post in forum * Do not train AL * Do not Hath your perks * Do not buy more stars (they're probably full of radioactive) * Do not drink EDs Step 2: * Do Grindfest at Normal difficulty (aka derpfest normfest) * Make sure to answer all of those pony questions WRONG (this is HARDER than it sounds) Step 3: * When Stamina drop to 0, go to Dawn, then REs If you still able to get Soul Fragments after that, congrat! If not... well that's sucks coz I haven't tried this method yet(IMG:[ static.fjcdn.com] http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/U%20mad%20bro_493e44_3135246.jpg)
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May 30 2015, 15:14
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SakakiFan01
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 30 2015, 01:50)  There's also the adopt a server option.
Use rapier with infusions and permastance, or club + melee skills if you don't have shade. Don't need it until higher difficulties. Don't need it. Or replace with dark + spirit theft. Is it even worth doing now with the new pots? Some say don't use so you can get more counters and stuns. Only matter for thefting. Low tier spells have longer proc durations, but outside of specific gimmick builds, those are turns better spent just attacking.
No longer true post-patch. Keep a health draught on at all times. Use health potions over cure when you can, and the occasional defend will cut down on costs. Use mana pots and draughts if you want to save turns and kill faster. On lower difficulties, you shouldn't need any pots at all, even with bazaar trash.
As for torrents, you shouldn't have any problem with funky stuff in torrents here. Sandboxing and virtual machines are options if you really want to be safe.
Nothing beats a good Void Axe at your side; (since I'm kind of a 'smash-it-'till-it-stops' style player...)A rapier is a more refined weapon from before the Dark Times... Before the Empire... (and I'm not really someone into subtlety...)(Sorry, couldn't resist a little play on words...)Haste seems to allow me to move more often and recover faster; though I'll admit the actual benefit may be minor. Smite I've mostly used just to build up my Divine Proficiency; I would tap it casually since it would usually bridge the gap between the last elemental magic spell. and those spells cooldown ending.. Since I'm less likely to use Elemental Magic now; Smite will probably drop off as well. Shadow Viel: Seemed to keep damage lower, especially when I would Pfudor; but what you said certainly seems advisable since I'll probably go more purely melee now. Third Tier: Again; getting Third Tier was mostly just an arbitrary goal. Now that I've achieved that goal, I'll likely use elemental attack magic much less now... ...which of course goes a long way toward keeping mana use down... even with the other spells I use... ...la, la, la... complaining like a fool; and my complaint is no longer valid if I switch to a purer melee style... ...la, la,la... The first battle I fought last night after your last post was essentially as you said... including the use of healing items, amazing how much mana I saved not using elemental magic... As usual, I blathered when it didn't matter any more... Thanks for your advice, it helped me make some decisions that should be of benefit immediately in game. Still hacked at not being able to load my Battle Item slots as I wish, but that doesn't matter as much anymore. (edit:) kumosu; that dog siggy of yours is a riot!This post has been edited by SakakiFan01: May 30 2015, 15:19
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