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post May 26 2015, 05:28
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 26 2015, 09:08) *

FUCKING GOD I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED ONE OF MY GOOD GEARS AND NOW IT HAS A LEVEL ASSIGNED TO IT

TENBORO PLEASE ADD SOME WAY TO UNASSIGN GEAR

Edit: Does your item lose its level during the 24 hour accidental salvage period? Does it have to be forged first?


if it good, soulbind la
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post May 26 2015, 05:40
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 25 2015, 22:08) *
FUCKING GOD I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED ONE OF MY GOOD GEARS AND NOW IT HAS A LEVEL ASSIGNED TO IT
TENBORO PLEASE ADD SOME WAY TO UNASSIGN GEAR
Edit: Does your item lose its level during the 24 hour accidental salvage period? Does it have to be forged first?

Oh hey, I did the exact same thing just now. Except my reaction was, "oops, that was a mistake. Oh well."
So...consider anger management? Or you know, rage more. That works too.
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post May 26 2015, 05:44
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 26 2015, 03:40) *
Oh hey, I did the exact same thing just now. Except my reaction was, "oops, that was a mistake. Oh well."
So...consider anger management? Or you know, rage more. That works too.
Depending on how valuable it is I might be quite pissed as well. Could mean 5m-10m down the drain.

The only consolation is that gear ranges are now higher, so old gear can't be quite as valuable as 0.82 Lmax would be.
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post May 26 2015, 05:47
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TRASH IT!

But it's my second favourite stick.
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if it good, soulbind la

I do have 27 fragments, but I haven't switched back to mage yet. I'm sure there's a non-banworthy loophole somewhere.
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anger management

HV wouldn't be the same without rage posts.
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post May 26 2015, 05:49
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 26 2015, 09:59) *

So restoration for magic potions is

round[(10+Level+WIS)*(0.5+0.05*Better_Mana_Level),0]

and for magic draughts

round[(10+Level+WIS)*(0.5+0.05*Better_Mana_Level)*0.02,0]

(10+Level+WIS) is also Base Magic under Base Vitals on the Character page, so you can substitute that.

According to the description, Max Better Mana Pots increases Potion effectiveness from 50% to 75%, and increases Draught and Elixir duration by 50%. Meaning Mana Draughts are actually always 2% of Potion effectiveness.

My base magic is 1593, so my replenishments are:

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*5),0] = 1195
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*5)*0.02,0] = 24

The same numbers I reported earlier.
Without any Better Mana Pots, the log says I get 797 from Potions and 16 from Draughts

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*0),0] = 797
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*0)*0.02,0] = 16
And using 2 Better Mana Pot Levels, the log reads 956 and 19.

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*2),0] = 956
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*2)*0.02,0] = 19
TLDR;
So there you go everyone, increasing your MP replenishment is just Better Pots, Level, and effective WIS.
Better Mana Pots increases Mana Potion effectiveness from 50% to 75%, and Mana Draughts replenishment per turn are 2% of Potion effectiveness (Elixirs probably the same.)
Wiki is dated for other things too, like HP/MP/SP totals:

Magic Ponts = (10 + Level + WIS) * (1 + Effluent_Ether) * (1 + Vital_MP_Boost)

WIS = Effective Wisdom

Effluent_Ether hath perk = 0.25 if you have it, 0 if not

Vital_MP_Boost = MP_Tank + Capacitor + Cloth_MP

MP_Tank = 0.1*x; x = # of tanks
Capacitor = 0.02*y; y = # of capacitor upgrades
Cloth_MP = full cloth set bonus = (Cloth Prof * Cloth_MP_Tank)/100

Cloth_MP_Tank multiplier is a piecewise function
[0] tanks = [0] bonus
[1-5] tanks = [0.05-0.09] bonus
[6-7] tanks = [0.095-0.10] bonus
I don't care enough to do HP and SP, but they are mostly similar.




that is some quick math...

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post May 26 2015, 05:50
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 26 2015, 05:34) *

Draughts sustain melee players.

Mana pots sustain mages.

Its not rocket science.


Ether theft/tap and focus sustains holy mages.

Ether tap and focus sustains dark mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) no wonder i'm clearing DwD slower than a melee player.
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post May 26 2015, 06:01
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You can use Ether Theft regardless of what type of mage you are. It's powerful enough that it enables me to clear all three schoolgirl marathons on the highest difficulty without using a single Mana Draught or Potion, which is tremendous when it comes to sustaining them.

It would be incredible if Ether and Spirit Theft (which is actually useless now) were uncoupled from holy and dark.

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post May 26 2015, 06:29
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Magnificent Amber Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
adb s-1.5

Magnificent Power Helmet of Slaughter
adb s-3.1

Yes, it may be just 'unlucky roll'...


Tenboro, create a Peelress and 1000 Legendary Power Slaugher, and compare max/min/average adb with pre-patch equip's.

* Don't say 'my code is perfect'. You already fixed the range of Estoc.
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post May 26 2015, 06:42
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If ranges are still remotely like they were in 0.81 - the entire Superior range is very large, and the range of Mmax - Lmax now is also pretty large (not only due to Lmax = Peerless) - but the Smax-Emax range is relatively small, as is Emax-Mmax.

So maybe while L gear is now likely to have M to L stats, it's much less likely for M gear to have E-M stats, for instance. Maybe. Just an idea.
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post May 26 2015, 06:47
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Ooh, so 0.81 power slaughter's price is gonna be high
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post May 26 2015, 06:47
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ May 26 2015, 05:44) *

The only consolation is that gear ranges are now higher, so old gear can't be quite as valuable as 0.82 Lmax would be.


True... but dunno a level 200 guy is gonna buy stuff from a level 400 dude... he still has 150Lvls to go... and bet he wont be waiting till then to use what he/se bought... by then maybe another piece would be in his/her hands... so... Screw the market for level 400 and up... dont? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 26 2015, 07:00
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QUOTE(n125 @ May 26 2015, 12:01) *

You can use Ether Theft regardless of what type of mage you are. It's powerful enough that it enables me to clear all three schoolgirl marathons on the highest difficulty without using a single Mana Draught or Potion, which is tremendous when it comes to sustaining them.

It would be incredible if Ether and Spirit Theft (which is actually useless now) were uncoupled from holy and dark.


Yes, what I meant is that I think mana draughts and pots are insufficient to sustain holy/dark mp consumption, so it becomes necessary to use theft/tap/focus.
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post May 26 2015, 08:08
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Tenboro, show us a sample of peerless rapier of slaughter, please

I'm not even sure if you can actually get

L-max ADB Legendary rapier of slaughter under this patch.

People are getting less than M-max -slaughter ADB items so far.
(Often less than an e-max)
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post May 26 2015, 08:35
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- Repairs no longer require a catalyst. A larger amount of scrap is instead required. Rather than having distinct tiers, the amount of scrap now depends directly on the quality of the item.
-- On average, the scrap-value equivalent cost for a full repair are significantly lower than before. It is slightly higher with a q between 0.78-0.84 (worst case +17) and between 0.95-0.98 (worst case +12), and slightly to significantly lower at all other quality ranges (best case -55).



What does q refer to?
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post May 26 2015, 09:18
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ May 26 2015, 06:35) *
What does q refer to?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes#Quality I assume.

Others have asked if there's a way to calculate it so that repair costs can also be calculated exactly. One might be able to collect a few thousand pieces of equipment and look at base rolls and repair costs, and guess at an equation for quality, and from that try to correlate quality to repair costs... but that would require quite a lot of time and statistical smarts.
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post May 26 2015, 09:27
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 26 2015, 06:40) *

Oh hey, I did the exact same thing just now. Except my reaction was, "oops, that was a mistake. Oh well."
So...consider anger management? Or you know, rage more. That works too.


Lucky you...
I equipped Legendary Shade Helmet @ LVL 160, now It's shittier than supperiors =( And to bind it, I need almost 100 soul fragments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (which is another 2kk credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) + all good gear, I need to buy new one, just to be able to lvl up faster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Hopefully, today I will be able to equip Legendary breasplate with soulbinding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 26 2015, 09:41
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QUOTE(sssss2 @ May 26 2015, 13:29) *

Magnificent Amber Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
adb s-1.5

Magnificent Power Helmet of Slaughter
adb s-3.1

Yes, it may be just 'unlucky roll'...
Tenboro, create a Peelress and 1000 Legendary Power Slaugher, and compare max/min/average adb with pre-patch equip's.

* Don't say 'my code is perfect'. You already fixed the range of Estoc.


i agree this, i can't find Mag Power slaughter's adb mmax, even emax,,, Tenboro, you could say just "unlucky roll", but relatively phase & shade has all good stats,
power slaughter has good stats but adb,


QUOTE(WOYH @ May 26 2015, 15:08) *

Tenboro, show us a sample of peerless rapier of slaughter, please

I'm not even sure if you can actually get

L-max ADB Legendary rapier of slaughter under this patch.

People are getting less than M-max -slaughter ADB items so far.
(Often less than an e-max)


i agree this too... most of all staff has P+ all stats include ade base, but i can't find leg rapier of slaughter over P+ adb.(i know another stats L+)


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post May 26 2015, 10:35
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Question: I was reading http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World and saw this:
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All potencies give roughly 2% bonus per potency level (then scaled according to player's level) except for mitigation potencies which give 4 base points. Economizer gives 5% mana conservation per level.
Is it now "equipment level" instead, or does potency escape this scaling?
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post May 26 2015, 12:15
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QUOTE(WOYH @ May 26 2015, 08:08) *
Tenboro, show us a sample of peerless rapier of slaughter, please

I'm not even sure if you can actually get

L-max ADB Legendary rapier of slaughter under this patch.

People are getting less than M-max -slaughter ADB items so far.(Often less than an e-max)
I don't have a rapier from this patch but if you look in my signature you'll see a peerless from the last patch.
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post May 26 2015, 17:55
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This thread needs some sexual healing.

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