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post May 25 2015, 23:04
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 25 2015, 17:40) *
What are you talking about? The battle log clearly displays the draught's effects.
Daodaodaidai is right. Due to rounding and player action speed, you don't always see the same numbers.
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post May 25 2015, 23:07
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ May 25 2015, 06:21) *

please boost PFU SG clear bonus drop , tenB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

now in this new patch , my clear bonus always exquisite and superior from 3 SG arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

agree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 23:08
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 25 2015, 15:43) *

How much MP does Elemental spells cost you people right now? and With how much effective Mana Conservation?

T1=13, T2=31, T3 = 53 with 20% mana conservation - I think it scales up with your level.
1173 base magic.

I get 16 mp/turn from mana draughts.

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post May 25 2015, 23:34
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Draughts sustain melee players.

Mana pots sustain mages.

Its not rocket science.
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post May 25 2015, 23:56
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 25 2015, 22:34) *

Draughts sustain melee players.

Mana pots sustain mages.

Its not rocket science.


Yes but you dont get as much mana potions as you would use and they dont always sustain you if you go magic only and dont hit for magic collision or what ever it said.

So yeah mages now need to hit with their staffs to have enough mana to last 100 rounds or more which makes it easier to dye from monsters or waste mana to put up the life protection spell which also uses spirit and you will need to slot a spirit potion because of that. TT.TT ;-;

It's not rocket science but you need a strategy as it is a whole new play style now. =/

Pack rat will now be useful to put scrolls in instead of casting spells to conserve mana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I wish draughts would at least give me 50% more of my tier 1 spells 9 points and they give me 9 points which is hardly enough for my support spells after that if i go magic only.

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post May 26 2015, 00:08
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The patch notes says 'Players cannot soulfuse with anything that is 51+ levels above their own '.

What about equipment which is below? Is the limit also 50 levels?

I'm level 453 now and with the new system will level faster then before. If I got a good drop now, but don't want or cant soulfuse with that equipment now, can I then hypothetically even wait until I reach level 500 before I would soulfuse with it?
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post May 26 2015, 00:10
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ May 25 2015, 12:08) *

The patch notes says 'Players cannot soulfuse with anything that is 51+ levels above their own '.

What about equipment which is below? Is the limit also 50 levels?

I'm level 453 now and with the new system will level faster then before. If I got a good drop now, but don't want or cant soulfuse with that equipment now, can I then hypothetically even wait until I reach level 500 before I would soulfuse with it?



No limit below, its just expensive. For each level below it costs another soulstone.
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post May 26 2015, 00:14
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ May 25 2015, 23:08) *

The patch notes says 'Players cannot soulfuse with anything that is 51+ levels above their own '.

What about equipment which is below? Is the limit also 50 levels?

I'm level 453 now and with the new system will level faster then before. If I got a good drop now, but don't want or cant soulfuse with that equipment now, can I then hypothetically even wait until I reach level 500 before I would soulfuse with it?


For EACH 2 levels below it's 1 extra soul stone for now i just checked but i dont know to what limits you can soul fuse below your level
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post May 26 2015, 00:17
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 26 2015, 00:10) *

No limit below, its just expensive. For each level below it costs another soulstone.

OK, thank you.
I asked because I didn't know if I had to use the stones as fast as possible on good drops like this one Legendary Mithril Power Gauntlets of Protection or if I can even wait til max level.
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post May 26 2015, 00:26
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YAY first soulfuse Magnificent Shield Sabatons of Stoneskin
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post May 26 2015, 00:33
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ May 25 2015, 20:30) *

Maybe 10b like piyin more than us? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)




QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ May 25 2015, 23:34) *

Draughts sustain melee players.

Mana pots sustain mages.

Its not rocket science.




Poking our asses yet.


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post May 26 2015, 01:22
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Hmm I wonder Who prefers this version more than this?
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post May 26 2015, 01:30
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...wut?

P.S. OH... the glorious days!
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post May 26 2015, 01:35
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Ichy's HV Grief Cycle diagram is frighteningly accurate.
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post May 26 2015, 02:02
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wow #1514
so old version...
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post May 26 2015, 02:02
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QUOTE(YohAsakuraXD @ May 25 2015, 16:22) *

Oh the good old days....
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post May 26 2015, 03:35
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 26 2015, 00:30) *

...wut?

P.S. OH... the glorious days!



Loool I mean who prefers the version in the photos more than the current version it seems everyone liked a lot.



QUOTE(MikukoAya @ May 26 2015, 01:02) *

Oh the good old days....



So it seems I played it a little back then and when i decide to start playing again this has happened XD

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post May 26 2015, 03:59
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So restoration for magic potions is

round[(10+Level+WIS)*(0.5+0.05*Better_Mana_Level),0]

and for magic draughts

round[(10+Level+WIS)*(0.5+0.05*Better_Mana_Level)*0.02,0]

(10+Level+WIS) is also Base Magic under Base Vitals on the Character page, so you can substitute that.

According to the description, Max Better Mana Pots increases Potion effectiveness from 50% to 75%, and increases Draught and Elixir duration by 50%. Meaning Mana Draughts are actually always 2% of Potion effectiveness.

My base magic is 1593, so my replenishments are:

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*5),0] = 1195
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*5)*0.02,0] = 24

The same numbers I reported earlier.


Without any Better Mana Pots, the log says I get 797 from Potions and 16 from Draughts

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*0),0] = 797
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*0)*0.02,0] = 16


And using 2 Better Mana Pot Levels, the log reads 956 and 19.

Mana Potion: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*2),0] = 956
Mana Draught: round[1593*(0.5+0.05*2)*0.02,0] = 19


TLDR;
So there you go everyone, increasing your MP replenishment is just Better Pots, Level, and effective WIS.
Better Mana Pots increases Mana Potion effectiveness from 50% to 75%, and Mana Draughts replenishment per turn are 2% of Potion effectiveness (Elixirs probably the same.)



Wiki is dated for other things too, like HP/MP/SP totals:

Magic Ponts = (10 + Level + WIS) * (1 + Effluent_Ether) * (1 + Vital_MP_Boost)

WIS = Effective Wisdom

Effluent_Ether hath perk = 0.25 if you have it, 0 if not

Vital_MP_Boost = MP_Tank + Capacitor + Cloth_MP

MP_Tank = 0.1*x; x = # of tanks
Capacitor = 0.02*y; y = # of capacitor upgrades
Cloth_MP = full cloth set bonus = (Cloth Prof * Cloth_MP_Tank)/100

Cloth_MP_Tank multiplier is a piecewise function
[0] tanks = [0] bonus
[1-5] tanks = [0.05-0.09] bonus
[6-7] tanks = [0.095-0.10] bonus


I don't care enough to do HP and SP, but they are mostly similar.


QUOTE(千石 撫子 @ May 25 2015, 19:02) *

wow #1514
so old version...

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post May 26 2015, 04:08
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FUCKING GOD I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED ONE OF MY GOOD GEARS AND NOW IT HAS A LEVEL ASSIGNED TO IT

TENBORO PLEASE ADD SOME WAY TO UNASSIGN GEAR

Edit: Does your item lose its level during the 24 hour accidental salvage period? Does it have to be forged first?

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post May 26 2015, 04:57
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FUCKING GOD I ACCIDENTALLY CLICKED ONE OF MY GOOD GEARS AND NOW IT HAS A LEVEL ASSIGNED TO IT

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