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post May 25 2015, 15:27
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I would be nice to have a Item like Soul Fragment, which would remove LVL of items, it could save so many lifes in harsh world of HV, and would help to bring more life in auctions, coz you could reset level of item when needed

Even if Tenboro added such an item it would be prohibitively costly (more so than frags) in credits and/or time, since otherwise it would effectively just undo the entire gear having levels idea.

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post May 25 2015, 15:28
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QUOTE(TheLaG @ May 25 2015, 12:57) *

I would be nice to have a Item like Soul Fragment, which would remove LVL of items, it could save so many lifes in harsh world of HV, and would help to bring more life in auctions, coz you could reset level of item when needed

I'm at a very low level compared to many of the posters in this thread, so my point of view may be different than most. However, at this point I'd be lucky to find some Exquisite gear that I could use in the bazaar/forum. In my opinion, that's one of the major selling points of this update. Us lower level players can no longer take a shortcut to more power by purchasing high end gear. Instead we have to go though a natural gear progression, which makes the game more challenging.
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post May 25 2015, 15:37
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 25 2015, 13:52) *

Weapons don't have tiers anymore.

They still have quality tiers. And pre-patch LotD gave you higher-quality eqips.
Maybe you would also explain to us why instead of applying it as a third factor during the quality generation, it was changed into something completely different ("More equips of certain types" instead of "Higher quality of equips of all types")?
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post May 25 2015, 16:09
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QUOTE(Tgbvfr @ May 25 2015, 16:28) *

I'm at a very low level compared to many of the posters in this thread, so my point of view may be different than most. However, at this point I'd be lucky to find some Exquisite gear that I could use in the bazaar/forum. In my opinion, that's one of the major selling points of this update. Us lower level players can no longer take a shortcut to more power by purchasing high end gear. Instead we have to go though a natural gear progression, which makes the game more challenging.


Yes, what I mean, It would be like soulfusing item or something like that, even at low level, It's hard to get nice item, also, even if you grab lvl 400 Legendary, then undo lvl, and equip it, you will still get your lvl item, and after some 40-50 lvl, you will need to soulfuse it, or do the same operation, with removing lvl, and equiping it again... At this point, I think price like 200-300k is ok, comparing with soulfusing (after which, item becomes untradable...)

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Even if Tenboro added such an item it would be prohibitively costly (more so than frags) in credits and/or time, since otherwise it would effectively just undo the entire gear having levels idea.


nah, it depends on what was the Idea, for me, lvl 240, I would like to have such option, to redo lvl for equipment once every ~50 lvl, coz gear becomes really bad with parameters/scaling, and soulfusing make it REALLY EXPENSIVE and later you won't be able so sell your old gear to others (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 16:10
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QUOTE(TheLaG @ May 25 2015, 05:57) *

I would be nice to have a Item like Soul Fragment, which would remove LVL of items, it could save so many lifes in harsh world of HV, and would help to bring more life in auctions, coz you could reset level of item when needed

I think a couple of us have suggested something to that effect.

Though the main thing I'd have to say is that if Tenboro implements such a thing, it shouldn't remove soulbind. Since soul fragments would soulbind.
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post May 25 2015, 16:21
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please boost PFU SG clear bonus drop , tenB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

now in this new patch , my clear bonus always exquisite and superior from 3 SG arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 16:23
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ May 25 2015, 06:37) *

They still have quality tiers.

I never refer to quality levels as "tiers" to avoid confusion.

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Maybe you would also explain to us why instead of applying it as a third factor during the quality generation, it was changed into something completely different ("More equips of certain types" instead of "Higher quality of equips of all types")?

No clue, not my idea.
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post May 25 2015, 16:48
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post May 25 2015, 17:32
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 25 2015, 06:26) *

First time i used mana draught:

Recover 28 per turn.

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... Mine is 10/turn with draught, 180+7/turn with retired pots ...

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post May 25 2015, 17:53
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 25 2015, 09:56) *

First time i used mana draught:

Recover 28 per turn.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) What is your base WIS?
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post May 25 2015, 17:58
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QUOTE(dracolich85 @ May 25 2015, 09:16) *

HV doesn't have a golden age. It's always been the Dark Age. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Dark age? it would means we had moved from the jurasic age: ya know, big Ds being the rulers of the land (Lvl >400 + Rich) and little lizards being squashed (anyone except big Ds).

QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 25 2015, 09:23) *

I recover 22 per turn...

you max forge wisdom or something?


Yep, wisdom.

QUOTE(gc00018 @ May 25 2015, 10:17) *

Then how about weapon...? A powerful weapon is more useful than armor.
At least give it a little usage.
2 is very much... compare to me.
Mine is 27. He must misread the number.


So... 1 point make a difference on bad maths... YES it does, but nope!,pretty sure it IS 28.

QUOTE(Nyvil @ May 25 2015, 12:18) *

When ever players ready to move onto a next stage, we have a new patch


Not quite! When we are enjoying the stage (as we did before this patch), some dudes came and start whinning over a new patch... then the pleas for destruction brings the (insert proper word)... and so they whine because their please were lstened... Odd, isnt?

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... Mine is 10/turn with draught, 180+7/turn with retired pots ...


Ah, old potions... Ah, old glorious days... Ah...Weed!

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post May 25 2015, 18:06
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Would it be better if only exq, mag, leg and peer gear had levels? That way people between lvl 1-200 could still get ok gear to start out. It would also bring back the free shop and the bazaar.
Thoughts?
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post May 25 2015, 18:12
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QUOTE(Acer37 @ May 25 2015, 18:06) *

Would it be better if only exq, mag, leg and peer gear had levels? That way people between lvl 1-200 could still get ok gear to start out. It would also bring back the free shop and the bazaar.
Thoughts?


Great idea = that would make lower levels able to enjoy the game... but:

Bad idea = the main update can be wreked by this change: or how do you change all the sistem only to do that?... HELLS OF SCRIPTS! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 18:21
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 25 2015, 21:28) *

So... 1 point make a difference on bad maths... YES it does, but nope!,pretty sure it IS 28.

You didn't answer what your Base WIS is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 18:26
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 25 2015, 01:56) *

Damn I wish mage could keep up with just natural MP regen and gems just like in the golden age of HV.

The real golden age was long before these: Damage Growth, Monster Avoidance, Monster Lab, Cooldowns, AoE Limitations, Weapon Condition, Energy, etc.

Of course, there were bad things too back then, like having to play 200 rounds on IW to level up a equipment 1 level. Quite the pain in the ass when say, you have a staff that's level 23 and you're well over 350.
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post May 25 2015, 18:29
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 25 2015, 18:21) *

You didn't answer what your Base WIS is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Whoops! didnt see that!

Wisdom = 450 + 39.

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post May 25 2015, 18:31
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 25 2015, 11:12) *

Great idea = that would make lower levels able to enjoy the game... but:

Bad idea = the main update can be wreked by this change: or how do you change all the sistem only to do that?... HELLS OF SCRIPTS! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I'm not familiar with the code for the system. But, would it be easier to just leave the levels on all the gear and give some type of status effect to all players below lvl 200. This effect would bypass the level requirements for sup gear and lower?
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post May 25 2015, 18:34
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 25 2015, 21:59) *

Wisdom = 450 + 39.

@Hito, what was your Base WIS again? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 18:41
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 25 2015, 18:26) *

The real golden age was long before these: Damage Growth, Monster Avoidance, Monster Lab, Cooldowns, AoE Limitations, Weapon Condition, Energy, etc.

This is the biggest one, personally.


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Maybe you would also explain to us why instead of applying it as a third factor during the quality generation, it was changed into something completely different ("More equips of certain types" instead of "Higher quality of equips of all types")?


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Note that because of changes to both the generation process and the lower bounds of gear stat ranges, there can be some quite large differences between old and new gear, especially below the highest tiers.

- One and two-handed weapons and staffs no longer have a common and rare tier, to prevent generating mostly katanas/wakizashi at higher tier bonuses.


I'm pretty sure this comes in hand with Niten not being a vast improvement over the other melee styles and Holy and Dark being vastly inferior to elemental in the current state of things. However, all the rare armor types are generally better than the common types and therefore more desired, which is probably why armor still has tiers.

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post May 25 2015, 18:51
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