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May 21 2015, 21:30
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Maximum_Joe
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I thought that was for testing, the hell is your routine and gear?
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May 21 2015, 21:39
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karyl123
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for melee, pot mechanism really good.
for mage, they just dead. m draught 7-8 MP/turn just hell for mage.
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about the new MP potion. it just trash.
before with greater MP pot, I can fully restore 3/4 or more from my mana pool.
with new potion, only 1/3
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May 21 2015, 22:04
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 13:17)  Yesterday's result: Today's result:
Before entering the Arenas:
Health Draught: 352 Health Potion: 307 Health Elixir: 129
Mana Draught: 500 Mana Potion: 500 Mana Elixir: 89
Spirit Draught: 266 Spirit Potion: 234 Spirit Elixir: 143 After the Arena+RE:
Health Draught: 373 (+21) Health Potion: 343 (+36) Health Elixir: 131 (+2)
Mana Draught: 558 (+58) Mana Potion: 352 (-148) Mana Elixir: 78 (-11)
Spirit Draught: 262 (-4) Spirit Potion: 251 (+17) Spirit Elixir: 147 (+4)
Same as before: IWBTH difficulty + Elec Mage + Imperil. Mana Potions and Mana Elixirs are NOT dropping enough for self sustaining, let alone make a stockpile.
@Tenboro, can you please say something on this matter?
Did you actually buy these pots? Hard to believe you've collected so many with such a huge deficit. I think you need better gear, or to adjust your strategy.
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May 21 2015, 22:06
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CronoBoA
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QUOTE(goatboy @ May 21 2015, 13:26)  I try but the game wants me to stay dead. QUOTE(stryker115 @ May 21 2015, 14:57)  You can start by changing your title you freakin noob QUOTE(intertex @ May 21 2015, 15:19)  Change your title silly, and play on a lower difficulty if you keep dying. It should be much easier to stay alive post-patch. Since he's still using the Newbie title, it's possible that he's never looked at his Hentaiverse Settings. And if he's never looked at his Hentaiverse Settings, then it's possible that he's playing on Normal difficulty with no Quickbar Slots assigned. And if he's playing on Normal difficulty with no Quickbar Slots assigned, then it's possible that he doesn't use buffs during combat. And if he doesn't use buffs during combat, then that might explain why he stays dead.
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May 21 2015, 22:06
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tetron
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2015, 01:00)  I thought that was for testing, the hell is your routine and gear?
That IS a testing, and that IS my routine. That's the best I can do right now with my temporary set. Once I soulfuse my main set, I can do a bit better. But it's still very marginal performance increase. Not every people is rich/lucky enough to afford/drop top notch gears. So what I'm saying also applies to other "low level" mages in general.
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May 21 2015, 22:08
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 13:06)  So what I'm saying also applies to other "low level" mages in general.
Except they don't exclusively play on IWBTH difficulty (or at least they shouldn't be).
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May 21 2015, 22:09
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tetron
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ May 22 2015, 01:34)  Did you actually buy these pots? Hard to believe you've collected so many with such a huge deficit. I think you need better gear, or to adjust your strategy.
I bought most of those Elixirs BEFORE the patch, when they were considered "Obsolete". Anyway, I'm gonna do some more tests in the next few days and see if that helps or not.
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May 21 2015, 22:10
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tetron
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2015, 01:38)  Except they don't exclusively play on IWBTH difficulty (or at least they shouldn't be).
So you're saying that IWBTH and PFUDOR are only for Melee?
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May 21 2015, 22:20
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 13:10)  So you're saying that IWBTH and PFUDOR are only for Melee?
because when pfudor is achievable with mage people will be bored again.
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May 21 2015, 22:20
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 13:06)  "low level"
I'm drawing attention to this part.
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May 21 2015, 22:24
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tetron
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2015, 01:50)  I'm drawing attention to this part.
Your point? This post has been edited by tetron: May 21 2015, 22:41
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May 21 2015, 22:38
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generaldoom
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QUOTE(CronoBoA @ May 21 2015, 10:43)  You don't need to replace your gear as often as some people seem to think. I'm 20 levels above my gear and I see no immediate need to replace it. I should be able to survive another 10 levels using this same gear, no problem.
greed is gear greed is game greed is fun i think need gear becoz i died many times =( u have not problem i have big problem This post has been edited by generaldoom: May 21 2015, 22:43
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May 21 2015, 23:00
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 13:24)  Your point?
You're complaining that low levels would have trouble with restorative drops but there's no way they use as much as you do or need them as badly.
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May 21 2015, 23:07
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tetron
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2015, 02:30)  You're complaining that low levels would have trouble with restorative drops but there's no way they use as much as you do or need them as badly.
Then tell me, how much potions do they generally use? I'll change my strategy according to that and see if that works or not.
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May 21 2015, 23:11
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(tetron @ May 21 2015, 14:07)  Then tell me, how much potions do they generally use?
Close to none if they play on lower difficulties and use Ether Tap a bit.
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May 21 2015, 23:12
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qw3rty67
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Thread is growing faster than I can read it. RIP.
So I finally broke down and started playing, first naked+drops, then buying from the bazaar. The new pots don't make much difference with good gear. With ok gear you have to lower the difficulty or lose your income on buying pots. (Exquisites selling for 700c. Why.) With low level or bad gear, you have to watch your play. The draughts probably make it easier for good-geared melee now compared to prepatch. Is this correct?
What really sucks is finding better gear at a lower item level in the bazaar, because it devalues the forge. There's no longer a point in getting those cheap, early forge levels anymore, and that goes double for item world.
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May 21 2015, 23:19
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tetron
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ May 22 2015, 02:41)  Close to none if they play on lower difficulties and use Ether Tap a bit.
So, again, you're saying that high difficulty should NOT be for mages? Anyway, I'll give Tapping a try and see if that makes any difference. But I'm not gonna lower the difficulty.
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May 21 2015, 23:22
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(clarkiest @ May 21 2015, 00:42)  10B, will random equipment PAB, caused by this patch, be addressed? The annoyance I've found are AGI on shield and missing one PAB for light armors.
Quite possibly. QUOTE(StonyCat @ May 21 2015, 01:02)  Fixed the ranges but no change to existing ones? Shouldn't you update all post-patch generated Estoc and Mace too... or at least my 2 Peerless ones? So I need to pay millions of credits again to test if you have fixed that? And if there's something wrong again it's me to suffer? Do you know how much effort is put in getting 1 Peerless item? I can only get bugged/crap Peerless?
Changing existing equipment stats in the database is both risky and time-consuming, so it's not generally something I'm willing to do, but I did update those two yesterday (they were the only affected ones). The system isn't designed to ever have equipment stats change though, so you'll probably have to equip and unequip them to make the cache to update. QUOTE(StonyCat @ May 21 2015, 01:02)  Also, that problem of missing PAB on Shade armor is just crazy. I don't think any players already owning Shade armors with all the PABs would want to switch from their old ones to a new one with some PAB missing.
Aye. QUOTE(n125 @ May 21 2015, 06:11)  Is it really working right? Besides that, maybe it's just confirmation bias, but my own drops have seemed worse off than before, especially arena clear bonuses.
When I get some actual time, I'll be looking more closely at the pre-patch and post-patch drop rates and adjust as necessary. QUOTE(n125 @ May 21 2015, 10:29)  As for Superlatinum's screenshot of PFUDOR DwD spitting out a Fair Axe for its clear bonus -- I don't know. DwD has no trophy at the end, so maybe there's a bug there.
Fake and gay. CODE +----------+---------+------------+--------+------------+----------------+------------+-------------+---------+------------+----------+ | entryid | uid | time | result | reward_exp | reward_credits | battletype | turncounter | arenaid | difficulty | equipset | +----------+---------+------------+--------+------------+----------------+------------+-------------+---------+------------+----------+ | 14014733 | 1647739 | 1432174370 | win | 5615039 | 1000 | arena | 215 | 33 | 7 | 2 | +----------+---------+------------+--------+------------+----------------+------------+-------------+---------+------------+----------+
+---------+------------+---------+------------+------------+------------------------------------+ | entryid | timestamp | uid | battletype | difficulty | equipname | +---------+------------+---------+------------+------------+------------------------------------+ | 9065199 | 1432174370 | 1647739 | arena | 7 | Superior Plate Helmet of Dampening | | 9065200 | 1432174370 | 1647739 | arena | 7 | Exquisite Katalox Staff of Fenrir | +---------+------------+---------+------------+------------+------------------------------------+
mysql> select * from LogEquipment where uid=1647739 and equipname="Fair Axe"; Empty set (3.14 sec)
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May 21 2015, 23:23
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stryker115
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QUOTE(generaldoom @ May 22 2015, 04:38)  greed is gear greed is game greed is fun
i think need gear becoz i died many times
=( u have not problem i have big problem
GREED IS GOOD
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May 21 2015, 23:25
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generaldoom
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 21 2015, 13:12)  Thread is growing faster than I can read it. RIP.
So I finally broke down and started playing, first naked+drops, then buying from the bazaar. The new pots don't make much difference with good gear. With ok gear you have to lower the difficulty or lose your income on buying pots. (Exquisites selling for 700c. Why.) With low level or bad gear, you have to watch your play. The draughts probably make it easier for good-geared melee now compared to prepatch. Is this correct?
What really sucks is finding better gear at a lower item level in the bazaar, because it devalues the forge. There's no longer a point in getting those cheap, early forge levels anymore, and that goes double for item world.
if i died not this game i never write board here only played hentaiverse game but died too many times n i think i need gear strongly in this patch n die continue!
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