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post Dec 11 2022, 03:03
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Dec 10 2022, 14:08) *
At least there's no snaps (afaik) if you go with Mint over Ubuntu. Still would rather go with Debian than something Ubuntu based, after all why not just go with the source?
This is of course the correct answer.

I'm liking devuan on my latest install, mostly because fuck systemd (and it was annoying to rip out of debian proper on my other computers). Not had any real issues with it so far to report. It's working like my other debian installs do, just with a little less work that I had to do to get them to that point.

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post Dec 11 2022, 03:09
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I wish I'd remembered Devuan when I was setting up my server(s). Even though I can get mighty asspained by systemd sometimes I can't justify reconfiguring them when 99% of the time they're fine.

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post Dec 11 2022, 03:26
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I wish I'd remembered Devuan when I was setting up my server(s). Even though I can get mighty asspained by systemd sometimes I can't justify reconfiguring them when 99% of the time they're fine.

The big thing for me is that systemd makes it stupid hard to do what /etc/rc.local did so simply before.

The removal process includes editing a '.prerm' file for systemd so that it doesn't refuse to uninstall itself if it is the init system in use. And then pre-downloading the sysvinit packages and dependencies so that you can reboot the system with init=/bin/sh, remount / as read-write, and then get it installed.

Just in case it ever does get to be too much. My breaking point was when I had a system that would lock up mid-boot half the time using systemd. And just coping with repeated reboot attempts for months got kind of old.

You may also want to install elogind, eudev, etc., although that can all wait until the end. I had to put some stuff in /etc/modules to make sure my kernel modules all got loaded, too.

Annoying as fuck, but I learned a lot. Like how to manually set up a network interface and how to use wpa_supplicant directly.

These days I have a setuid C program I wrote that handles network configuration via forking and execv(), because I'm dumb and don't like typing sudo.

You changed the disaster in your signature, didn't you?
This is a better one than 'normiefication', but it's also a subset of normiefication in a way.

QUOTE(255555555 @ Dec 10 2022, 14:53) *
As far as im aware you can still get rid of snap on Ubuntu, there are quite a lot more differences between Ubuntu and Debian than there are between Ubuntu and Mint, which is why i don't really understand what's there to prefer one over the other unless you really hate canonical.
Ubuntu is Red Hat Lite. That's why I don't like it.
Forcing its stupidity on everyone else, and representing the worst of software engineering (the 'i just program for the money' part, aka most of it).

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unless you really hate canonical.
Yes.

Based.

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post Dec 11 2022, 03:46
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 11 2022, 03:26) *

Just in case it ever does get to be too much.

I'm sure it will one day lol.
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You changed the disaster in your signature, didn't you?
This is a better one than 'normiefication', but it's also a subset of normiefication in a way.

I figure it's more appropriate for the site at least.
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post Dec 11 2022, 13:30
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I agree i don't like Canonical or Red Hat either, SUSE are the only ones i don't mind but probably because i never hear of them anyway.
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post Dec 13 2022, 10:52
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Logged into the forums using AROS now that I've got a compatible (ath5k) miniPCI wireless card installed.

Was annoying to get the login captcha to work; I had to first spoof an ipad user agent, and then I had to answer the recaptcha in French, for some reason.

Thankfully I know enough french to understand they were asking about traffic lights.

(shrug)

Wonder i I can figure out how to load calibration curves into the video card gamma table in AROS.

Unfortunately I think the only way I can do ethernet in AROS is with a USB 100MBit ethernet controller, because broadcom NIC support is basically nonexistant and that's what this laptop comes with. I have a Nyko USB ethernet adapter (meant for the Wii) that seems to function.

Despite all of these minor setbacks, I am still impressed, especially because graphics seem to be stable and accelerated on this (admittedly old) chipset - i915. And no that's not generic 'i915 driver,' this is the true-blue i915 chipset. Not GMA 3100 or anything like that.

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post Jan 18 2023, 20:12
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macOS Ventura. Nothing special.
ESXi 6.5 in my home server, running Windows Server 2019 and Ubuntu Server 22.04 in it.
Windows 11 Pro in my gaming PC. I really regret upgrading from Windows 10.
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post Jan 18 2023, 21:25
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QUOTE(boris1993 @ Jan 18 2023, 18:12) *
I really regret upgrading from Windows 10.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said that...

Windows 10 was but an omen. People were saying "it's not so bad" but seemed to completely ignore the fact that it was a sign of things to come.

No matter how often MS says that "X will be the last version of Windows," you should never believe them.

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post Jan 26 2023, 18:54
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Win10..Win11 is s**k.
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post Jan 28 2023, 19:50
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win10 ltsc, it can get less updates.
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post Feb 20 2023, 15:28
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post Feb 27 2023, 07:38
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Gentoo GNU/Linux with full LTO and a bunch of other stupid -omg-optimize flags.
Gentoo on pretty much every machine i own except my laptop (gentoo on laptops is a PIA and batter killer).
Feels nice to not have to deal with systemdicks.
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post Mar 9 2023, 18:13
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Im using arch(btw)
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post Apr 1 2023, 11:28
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Now WIN7 + virtual Ubuntu20
With worries about TLC NVMe device which are not supported by default WIN7 NVMe driver
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post Apr 1 2023, 20:44
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Put the linux distro on the host and use windows 7 as a guest, then.

(I still run Debian Sid and OpenBSD)

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post Apr 2 2023, 03:18
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post Apr 2 2023, 09:52
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Windows 10.
And I am surprised and a bit amused that so many people are whining in the Steam forums because Valve will stop the Windows 7 and 8 support for Steam.
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post Apr 5 2023, 17:43
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post Apr 8 2023, 03:37
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Windows 10 and Windows 11.
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