QUOTE(Scumbini @ Dec 11 2022, 01:09)

I wish I'd remembered Devuan when I was setting up my server(s). Even though I can get mighty asspained by systemd sometimes I can't justify reconfiguring them when 99% of the time they're fine.
The big thing for me is that systemd makes it stupid hard to do what /etc/rc.local did so simply before.
The removal process includes editing a '.prerm' file for systemd so that it doesn't refuse to uninstall itself if it is the init system in use. And then pre-downloading the sysvinit packages and dependencies so that you can reboot the system with init=/bin/sh, remount / as read-write, and then get it installed.
Just in case it ever does get to be too much. My breaking point was when I had a system that would lock up mid-boot half the time using systemd. And just coping with repeated reboot attempts for months got kind of old.
You may also want to install elogind, eudev, etc., although that can all wait until the end. I had to put some stuff in /etc/modules to make sure my kernel modules all got loaded, too.
Annoying as fuck, but I learned a lot. Like how to manually set up a network interface and how to use wpa_supplicant directly.
These days I have a setuid C program I wrote that handles network configuration via forking and execv(), because I'm dumb and don't like typing sudo.
You changed the disaster in your signature, didn't you?
This is a better one than 'normiefication', but it's also a subset of normiefication in a way.
QUOTE(255555555 @ Dec 10 2022, 14:53)

As far as im aware you can still get rid of snap on Ubuntu, there are quite a lot more differences between Ubuntu and Debian than there are between Ubuntu and Mint, which is why i don't really understand what's there to prefer one over the other unless you really hate canonical.
Ubuntu is Red Hat Lite. That's why I don't like it.
Forcing its stupidity on everyone else, and representing the worst of software engineering (the 'i just program for the money' part, aka most of it).
QUOTE(Scumbini @ Dec 10 2022, 15:03)

QUOTE(255555555 @ Dec 10 2022, 14:53)

unless you really hate canonical.
Yes.
Based.
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 11 2022, 03:39