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Windows 10, mac, debian. I never got used to unity in Ubuntu, and didn't go back after it died.

Windows 10, mac, debian. I never got used to unity in Ubuntu, and didn't go back after it died.

Hello, fellow Debian refugee.
I really did like GNOME 2. Now I've sort of moved away from using MATE (which is basically a descendant of GNOME2) and am using FVWM (plus a couple little utilities I wrote myself, like a screenshot GUI tool using Python and a run dialogue written in C with GTK3), but I still use a couple of MATE's bits of software - caja and mate-terminal, mostly.
In any case, yeah, I jumped ship after Lucid (Ubuntu 10.04) as well. Not looked back.

If I ever have to do a fresh install again I'll probably set up logical volumes, since my desktop's Debian filesystem has gotten sort of esoteric as I've bolted on more and more disks. Other than that, no complaints and I've been running Debian Sid on it for over half a decade. I think if I ever do need to do a fresh install, I'll just do Debian again since it's still working for me (and in some ways is better than it's been in a long time, what with elogind).

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: May 18 2020, 19:06

I'm on Arch Linux for my desktop, Windows 10 for my current laptop but thinking of checking out Void Linux or Artix Linux sometime.

Windows10 LTSC!
I like it very much because it is very stable！

I'm on Arch Linux for my desktop, Windows 10 for my current laptop but thinking of checking out Void Linux or Artix Linux sometime.

I just use Debian Sid because it does everything I need, is rolling release, has lots of packages, has decent support for non-x86 architectures, a good bug tracker framework, and can be set up to avoid systemd-as-init rather simply (using elogind, you can even install a lot of software that might normally require systemd init).
It's also rather easy to make my own tweaked builds of debian packages and get them registered in my package manager.
I'm not sure why Void (x86/arm only) or Artix(amd64 only) even exist/get hype. If you want mixed source/binary package management, FreeBSD is much more mature.

Every dealing I've had with an Arch installation has made me more sure that it's for masochists. pacman is horrible for searching so everyone recommends wrappers for it.

I can build AUR's in my debian machine if I want because I built pacman/makepkg from source code and have it set up in its own 'prefix' (/opt/arch).

The only AUR i've ever used is gtk3-typeahead, simply because it's simpler than patching new GTK3 releases by hand. I had to make a wrapper for 'arch-meson' though since arch stupidly tweaked meson for its installations.

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: May 26 2020, 01:36

Every dealing I've had with an Arch installation has made me more sure that it's for masochists. pacman is horrible for searching so everyone recommends wrappers for it.

I have used pacman without a wrapper everyday for the last 7 years. I now wonder that that says about me.

I have used pacman without a wrapper everyday for the last 7 years. I now wonder that that says about me.

Probably says more about me being dumb and resistant to change than it does about you, honestly…

Although I still don't understand pacman very well regardless (compared to apt-cache for searching)

My bigger problem with Arch is a mentality I've seen a lot with Arch users, where "solutions" to problems like an incorrect audio sampling rate are things like installing pulseaudio rather than properly configuring their hardware. All while using Arch because it somehow makes them better. It's not actually a problem with Arch itself, which I'm sure is fine (apart from Systemd being the only supported init and x86/amd64/ARM the only supported architectures, of which two are only unofficially supported).

As it is, Debian and Gentoo are the only distros I've seen with wide ranging architecture support. Though unofficial as well, I can even run Debian on a DEC Alphaserver. And I'd like a POWER9 machine some day, which Debian actually does support as well (officially even).

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: May 26 2020, 16:03

Debian and Gentoo

I pretty much use only Arch and Debian testing on my machines. Both annoy me in certain ways.

Would never put Arch on my webserver because the constant need for restarts after kernel updates would defeat the purpose of it being 24/7. Sometimes I dislike Debian as my Desktop though. There is no good way to prevent it from overriding specific files with apt, you can only hold back an entire package. I changed my XDM look and feel, but every time XDM updates config file gets overwritten. Now, I could install my own XDM in /usr/local but then I would not get updates. I do want the XDM package from debian, I only do not want the config file that comes with it. My current solution is an apt wrapper that greps for "xdm" and re-overwittes the file upon update completion (ewww...).

I pretty much use only Arch and Debian testing on my machines. Both annoy me in certain ways.

Would never put Arch on my webserver because the constant need for restarts after kernel updates would defeat the purpose of it being 24/7. Sometimes I dislike Debian as my Desktop though. There is no good way to prevent it from overriding specific files with apt

CODE

chattr +i

but it won't work in _all_ circumstances. I've used it with global fontconfig settings before, though.

I changed my XDM look and feel, but every time XDM updates config file gets overwritten.

Funny, I have never had that happen and I also use XDM.
I keep my xdm setup stuff in /etc/X11/xdm/ and it never seems to get overwritten. You're editing it in /usr/share, aren't you?

My current solution is an apt wrapper that greps for "xdm" and re-overwittes the file upon update completion (ewww...).

Neat idea.

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: May 27 2020, 19:34

CODE

chattr +i

Good idea, let me try.

It is just /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config,
annoyably overwritten by [packages.debian.org] this package filelist

I then dump all Xsetup and family inside xdm.d and link from xdm-config. Let's see how chattr works on the next xdm update, thanks

Good idea, let me try.

It is just /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config,
annoyably overwritten by [packages.debian.org] this package filelist

I then dump all Xsetup and family inside xdm.d and link from xdm-config. Let's see how chattr works on the next xdm update, thanks

You can force it to test out with apt-get install --reinstall xdm.
There's a chance it'll throw a fit though.

I figured out why mine aren't getting overwritten; I have a file called /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources that I have done all my tweaks in. It gets sourced from xdm-config. I used it to tweak the login page and such. Things like my PATH variable I set in ~/.xsessionrc.

What changes did you make to your config file?

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: May 28 2020, 17:59

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What changes did you make to your config file?

Changed the entire look and feel, added clock styling, etc. All that into Xresources. And added a randomized background image and the clock itself from Xsetup. Dumped all that in xdm.d - where it is not overwritten. Then changed xdm-config to point to those files instead. i.e. nothing too fancy.

The chattr idea seems to be working after some testing btw. Thanks for that.

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Changed the entire look and feel, added clock styling, etc. All that into Xresources. And added a randomized background image and the clock itself from Xsetup. Dumped all that in xdm.d - where it is not overwritten. Then changed xdm-config to point to those files instead. i.e. nothing too fancy.

The chattr idea seems to be working after some testing btw. Thanks for that.

NP. Glad it worked. I do the same thing with fontconfig settings and xkb settings (although I've also figured out per-user xkb bindings at long last so that might stop happening there).

I have no idea how I originally figured that chattr thing out or if I read it online or what; it's just kind of a habit at this point. It's kind of a forgotten thing because it's probably linux-specific. Though I think maybe FreeBSD has something similar with chflags.

I should make my xdm look nicer too. I've just tweaked the fonts (I use an IBM terminal bitmap font for lots of things) and removed the Debian branding from it.

But since I've upgraded FVWM to FVWM3 (which is still in active development and not completely full-featured yet), I have been spending more of my time rwriting replacements for a few little bits and pieces that couldn't migrate from FVWM2 directly as GTK 'applets' in C. Wrote a new run dialogue and a few other tools this week.

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jun 6 2020, 19:10

The mobile one is android. Another one is Windows 10 in PC. XD

Windows 10 Home + Xubuntu. Thinking of switching the Xubuntu install to OpenSUSE Leap (already using Tumbleweed on WSL2) or trying out ChromeOS.

using windows 7 rn
because 10 is suckass (telemetry and sh*t)