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The Legendary Equipment Thread, Legendary and Peerless gears only |
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Sep 15 2017, 05:50
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(buimon @ Sep 15 2017, 05:40)  [ alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Maybe I should ask price here as well. Unlikely to get starting bid, and if it gets any, it's for the "low" level. Adb is average/low, crit, str, dex are very low, only parry is good.
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Sep 15 2017, 06:53
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にしの つかさ
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Sep 15 2017, 07:08
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buimon
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Sep 14 2017, 20:50)  Unlikely to get starting bid, and if it gets any, it's for the "low" level.
Adb is average/low, crit, str, dex are very low, only parry is good.
Hmmm...for some reasons, my Percentile Ranges only showed ADB and parry. Otherwise, I would have not said that. Any solutions? Seems I have to add that into the script myself. nvm This post has been edited by buimon: Sep 15 2017, 07:10
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Sep 15 2017, 07:31
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BlueWaterSplash
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It's still a terrific drop for you to use. Compare it to the rapier in your signature. It is far superior in every aspect. Just use it.
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Sep 15 2017, 08:32
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buimon
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 14 2017, 22:31)  It's still a terrific drop for you to use. Compare it to the rapier in your signature. It is far superior in every aspect. Just use it.
No doubt on that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Getting a 30% bump on hit chance (going up to 179%) & 3-4% on parry for a loss of 200 base atk sounds fair. Upgrade a little bit to even better.
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Sep 15 2017, 08:45
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BlueWaterSplash
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Wait, when I check your rapier links, it shows me: Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance, level 364, +799 Piercing Damage (34.97 base) Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter, soulbound (364?), +748 Void Damage (42.58 base?) (Using the built-in mouse hover, which is too dumb to remove the effect of Butcher 5 and Forge 5). Something doesn't seem right. Does it say the same for you? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) edit: I checked and apparently the stats I am seeing for your Exquisite Rapier are as if it were soulbound to me at level 276. I was not aware of this bug? This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Sep 15 2017, 08:49
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Sep 15 2017, 08:57
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buimon
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 14 2017, 23:45)  Wait, when I check your rapier links, it shows me: Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance, level 364, +799 Piercing Damage (34.97 base) Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter, soulbound (364?), +748 Void Damage (42.58 base?) (Using the built-in mouse hover, which is too dumb to remove the effect of Butcher 5 and Forge 5). Something doesn't seem right. Does it say the same for you? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) edit: I checked and apparently the stats I am seeing for your Exquisite Rapier are as if it were soulbound to me at level 276. I was not aware of this bug? Yeah, it is adjusted to your level. For me, ADB is 972. Assume I use it for SG Arenas, the lag rapier would be much better? This post has been edited by buimon: Sep 15 2017, 08:59
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Sep 15 2017, 11:05
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 15 2017, 08:45)  edit: I checked and apparently the stats I am seeing for your Exquisite Rapier are as if it were soulbound to me at level 276. I was not aware of this bug?
it's still unclear whether it's a bug or a feature. however yep, soulbound gears are scaled to viewer's level QUOTE(buimon @ Sep 15 2017, 08:57)  Yeah, it is adjusted to your level. For me, ADB is 972. Assume I use it for SG Arenas, the lag rapier would be much better?
possibly, yep. it still won't be an endgame rapier, but at least you'll have some better rolls. and +90 ADB just from ADB forging.
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Sep 15 2017, 12:09
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 15 2017, 11:05)  it's still unclear whether it's a bug or a feature. however yep, soulbound gears are scaled to viewer's level
Level assigned => scaled to their level Level unassigned or soulbound (equipment has no level) => scaled to the viewer level Where is the bug? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Sep 15 2017, 12:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 15 2017, 12:09)  Level assigned => scaled to their level Level unassigned or soulbound (equipment has no level) => scaled to the viewer level Where is the bug? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) if it's intended that a thing which is soulbound to you gets viewed by me like it was scaled to my level. there's the chance it wasn't meant to behave that way, but it took a bit to be fixed while not bringing any visible benefit.
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Sep 15 2017, 12:42
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 15 2017, 12:21)  if it's intended that a thing which is soulbound to you gets viewed by me like it was scaled to my level. there's the chance it wasn't meant to behave that way, but it took a bit to be fixed while not bringing any visible benefit.
Well, with the current popup if I see a soulbound PHOH I can see the increase in EDB I would get. Why would I care how much EDB the owner gets from it? Feature requests are not bugs, and anyway, if it were me, I wouldn't join a table just to scale the equipment values, it's beyond pointless. It would also be more complex since you would need to consider 4 cases: - unassigned (scale with viewer level) - level bound (scale with equipment level) - soulbound to a user (scale with the user level) - soulbound in lottery (scale with the viewer level) This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 15 2017, 12:42
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Sep 15 2017, 12:51
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 15 2017, 12:42)  Feature requests are not bugs
was it requested to behave that way? that's news! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Sep 15 2017, 12:58
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 15 2017, 12:51)  was it requested to behave that way? that's news! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) It seems pretty obvious to me that BlueWaterSplash wants it to work that way. And that's a feature requests if it gets to Tenboro, not a bug report.
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Sep 15 2017, 13:26
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Cleavs
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at this point it seems pretty obvious to me that today i may be not too brilliant...
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Sep 15 2017, 14:45
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cs987987
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Sep 15 2017, 14:48
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friggo
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Sep 15 2017, 19:13
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ALL_MIGHT
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Sep 15 2017, 20:59
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BlueWaterSplash
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I don't have any particular request for whether soulbound scales to viewer or owner, as Sapo pointed out it could be more consistent the way it is. It's just not what you would expect. If a weapon is level unassigned and tradeable, I might want it, so I want to see its stats scale to my level. If a weapon is soulbound, I can't get it, so it makes more sense to see what the owner is getting out of it. It also helps giving advice to the owner more directly, such as to buimon here.
Peerless equipment is slightly different because you could see it in a lottery, and also you might hope to own an identical copy yourself one day. There is more chance I would get a Peerless Demonic Rapier of Balance than another Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance with the same stats as buimon. Well, there's some advantage to seeing peerless scale to the owner as well. A lot of powerful peerless are soulbound to level 500 players and displayed in their signature. So common folks can look at it and see the greatest power possible. ;)
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