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post Sep 29 2014, 17:53
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very very veeeery tiny.
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post Sep 29 2014, 18:10
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But very very veeeeery likely to get a short sword. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 29 2014, 18:22
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Tenb, a question:

Now, we can infinite salvage-> buy back an bound equipment to reforge it and get some HGmaterial.

It's much cheaper than use shards.

Is it legel, if one use this way to re-IW equipment or get materials?

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post Sep 29 2014, 18:44
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Sep 29 2014, 09:22) *

Now, we can infinite salvage-> buy back an bound equipment to reforge it and get some HGmaterial.

You do realize it costs a minimum of 10k to do this every time, right?
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post Sep 29 2014, 18:47
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Sep 29 2014, 18:44) *

You do realize it costs a minimum of 10k to do this every time, right?

Well getting an hg some scraps and saving some shards at the same time would cost a lot more.

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post Sep 29 2014, 18:49
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Sep 30 2014, 01:44) *

You do realize it costs a minimum of 10k to do this every time, right?

Gaining few "free" scraps may be no big deal, but reforging an equip which has 2+ level of potencies with only 10k is a big advantage.

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post Sep 29 2014, 19:30
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Solution: Set the buyback cost to 1m. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 29 2014, 19:45
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Maybe only show the buy back for upgraded and IW leveled equipments? Or only mag+ ones? I.e. stuff that is actually salvaged by accident. Currently the shop becomes quite cluttered.
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post Sep 29 2014, 19:50
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Buyback cost is minimum 10k, but 10x of sell cost. It is around 320-330 PXP for normal equipment and 270 PXP for rare. Let's say a 320 PXP exquisite sell cost around 5k, so it would cost 50k to buy back. For rare magnificents, buyback cost could easily exceed 100k, so i don't see much point to do it at high levels.

Though, don't know how condition will change buyback cost. If what i think is right, you could deliberately reduce item cost to almost nothing. I didn't crack exact formula, but have some ideas, how condition affects item cost - magnificent item with 1 condition will cost as crappy average.

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post Sep 29 2014, 20:08
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Sep 29 2014, 23:20) *

~Another big loophole~

I seriously need some moar popcorn! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Sep 29 2014, 20:09
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Sep 30 2014, 02:50) *

Buyback cost is minimum 10k, but 10x of sell cost. It is around 320-330 PXP for normal equipment and 270 PXP for rare. Let's say a 320 PXP exquisite sell cost around 5k, so it would cost 50k to buy back. For rare magnificents, buyback cost could easily exceed 100k, so i don't see much point to do it at high levels.

Though, don't know how condition will change buyback cost. If what i think is right, you could deliberately reduce item cost to almost nothing. I didn't crack exact formula, but have some ideas, how condition affects item cost - magnificent item with 1 condition will cost as crappy average.

Low condition affect on selling price. It's directly proportional to each other.
For example an equip with 60% condition has 60% of bazaar price in comparison to when it has 100% condition.
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:10
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QUOTE(Razor320 @ Sep 29 2014, 17:50) *

Let's say a 320 PXP exquisite sell cost around 5k, so it would cost 50k to buy back. For rare magnificents, buyback cost could easily exceed 100k, so i don't see much point to do it at high levels.


Point one, not all the high level equipment are rare. I can buyback a mag cotton in around 15000. Plus the bouns HGCloth, it is cheaper than a shards.

Point two, it is almost impossible to buy 500-1000 shards immdiately which it is needed in high level IW. So...

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But using up the condition will be a good idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 29 2014, 20:18
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Sep 29 2014, 18:09) *

Low condition affect on selling price. It's directly proportional to each other.
For example an equip with 60% condition has 60% of bazaar price in comparison to when it has 100% condition.


Err, if I use a mag one with 0% condition, can I get infinite HG materials through salvage->buyback? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:19
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Make the buy back cost double for every additional buy back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
e.g. 10k -> 20k -> 40k -> 80k -> .......
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:25
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Well, shame on me for not properly analyzing the "how will people try to abuse this" angle on the buyback.

Cost is now 50k or 5x normal buy value, whichever is highest.
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:25
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Sep 30 2014, 03:18) *

Err, if I use a mag one with 0% condition, can I get infinite HG materials through salvage->buyback? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Yep with 10k credits.
(I dunno the bazaar price of 0% condition since it has some error like base price.
But there's 10k as minimum for buying salvaged equip anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))

BTW you can also get free 2 scraps when salvaging mag equip which has selling price > 500. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

+Add: Oh, now it's corrected. Never mind, everyone! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 29 2014, 20:32
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 29 2014, 18:25) *

Well, shame on me for not properly analyzing the "how will people try to abuse this" angle on the buyback.

Cost is now 50k or 5x normal buy value, whichever is highest.


So quick~ nice work! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Sep 29 2014, 18:25) *

+Add: Oh, now it's corrected. Never mind, everyone! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


It's over~ corrected. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:51
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Sep 29 2014, 20:32) *
It's over~ corrected. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Slightly. I reduced the minimum back to 10,000C, but salvaging gear will now also fully repair it.

I don't believe there are any situations where it would possibly make sense to salvage something to repair it and get some mats, but if there are, please do share. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 29 2014, 20:58
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 29 2014, 20:51) *

Slightly. I reduced the minimum back to 10,000C, but salvaging gear will now also fully repair it.

I don't believe there are any situations where it would possibly make sense to salvage something to repair it and get some mats, but if there are, please do share. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Welp you can still salvage to save amnesia shards instead of reforging and as a bonus you get mats.
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post Sep 29 2014, 21:03
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 29 2014, 18:51) *

Slightly. I reduced the minimum back to 10,000C, but salvaging gear will now also fully repair it.

I don't believe there are any situations where it would possibly make sense to salvage something to repair it and get some mats, but if there are, please do share. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


So, it means we can still use the salvage-buyback circle to reforge equipment?

It will be useful for non-rare equipment in many situation~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(danixxx @ Sep 29 2014, 18:58) *

Welp you can still salvage to save amnesia shards instead of reforging and as a bonus you get mats.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) You posted so quick...

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