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lol asia ftw

On my Soon-ish list.
BTW, is it possible to host H@H from a dynamic-assigned public IP addresses? A static IP address's gonna cost a lot of money...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Aug 31 2014, 15:41

For 14113, it's not because it's not "old enough" but because the cache was reset at some point.

Those clients are a bit of an outlier case since it's unusual to have that high traffic without having more static ranges. I'm going to take a look at the Asian clients in particular to see if the changes skewed them unfairly.

Edit: Isolated to Asia-based clients, there was indeed an unintended drop in hath due to the relatively higher rate of traffic compared to the number of static ranges. A 25% bonus to Asia-based clients was added to adjust for this.

Hmm, I reset the cache and static ranges of 14113 because I faced a trust problem at mid-August.
Users kept request some files which not exist in the cache, it made the trust red usually.
I tried several methods to fix it, one of them is resetting the cache, so it became a fresh new client. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I kept some logs at the time to trace the problem, I will post or pm if you want.

Now return to the hath wage.

In my vision, now the wage start point has down to 1 from 3, but the cap limited by hit rate or speed is also reduced about 2~3, the reduced hath are now static range bonus.
So 14113 does higher output that could touch cap before patch, but now gets same hath as 14262 which does less output and has high static range. (14262 gets same hath as previous)

My opinion are make the cap limited by hit rate and speed higher as previous patch, and change the hath/day increase rate by hit rate more linear.

If the clients do not have the high hit rate to reach the cap, they can get the static range bonus to reach it.
Or you want to make static range just as additional bonus.
Because high output + high static range clients should get more wage than the one has only a single stat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Maybe the ideal will be like these

CODE

Situation                      Wage (compare with before)
no output                      1
low output                     lesser
mid output                     a bit lesser
high output                    same (near to the hit rate/speed cap)
low output+high static range   same or more
high output+high static range  more

My opinion are make the cap limited by hit rate and speed higher as previous patch, and change the hath/day increase rate by hit rate more linear.

If the clients do not have the high hit rate to reach the cap, they can get the static range bonus to reach it.
Or you want to make static range just as additional bonus.
Because high output + high static range clients should get more wage than the one has only a single stat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I can't agree with you any more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The number of total ranges allowed is hard limited by cache size (1 range per 125 MB), and the assignment rate is hard limited to one every 12 hours. The main reason for the latter is that the files aren't tracked individually by the server, so to stop people from exploiting that by deleting cache files from static ranges, requesting a static range file from the image servers will slightly reduce a client's trust. If a client were to be assigned ranges faster than it currently is, it could easily overwhelm the trust regen and make it untrusted.

OK. I tried to read all the old release notes, but I guess I missed these changes. 2 ranges/day was right after all.

^ uh oh watch out. start generating hath any higher than you already are, and you *gasp* become one of those "hath dragons" you love to ridicule.

Hard to "love to ridicule" when I don't do it at all. Go ahead. Quote even one quote where I ridiculed you or any "hath dragon" for being "hath dragons." If you would kindly take two seconds to look at the toplists, you would see a small gap between the top page and where I rank.

sushi?

Nah. He's just an A-hole in general. Has nothing to do with hath. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hard to "love to ridicule" when I don't do it at all. Go ahead. Quote even one quote where I ridiculed you or any "hath dragon" for being "hath dragons."

I'll find it when I have the time. Something 2-3 yrs ago about living in the basement.

Nah. He's just an A-hole in general. Has nothing to do with hath. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh no! some random anon on the internet called me an ahole! feelings hurt! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by treesloth: Sep 1 2014, 02:37

I'll find it when I have the time. Something 2-3 yrs ago about living in the basement.
Oh no! some random anon on the internet called me an ahole! feelings hurt! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I think you were confusing hito with LostLogia. The latter has definitely used the exact term

You mean turning every single rich HV players into "Hath dragons"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Friendly reminder: future patches might include reintroducing old-fashioned equipment levels. Heard that one from Tenboro awhile ago before this patch.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Sep 1 2014, 03:10

I think you were confusing hito with LostLogia. The latter has definitely used the exact term

What do you mean by that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I didn't actively post in this forum until just a few months ago. And I don't even know about the term "Hath dragons" until hito coined it out for me. Also... *gasp*

Oh no! some random anon on the internet accused me being an ahole! feelings hurt! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Sep 1 2014, 04:36

I like hath baron better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'll find it when I have the time. Something 2-3 yrs ago about living in the basement.

Uh huh, sure you will.

Joined: 6-January 13

What would you know? Nothing.

Oh no! some random anon on the internet called me an ahole! feelings hurt! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The pretentiousness is strong with this one. We weren't even talking about you.

sushi?

Unless you want to admit to being sushi on a duplicate account? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And I only use "hath dragons" in quotation, for that very purpose. I didn't coin it. The term existed before my last forum inactivity, so at least a year and a half.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Sep 1 2014, 07:38

Oh no! some random anon on the internet called me an ahole!

sushi

Prepare your popcorn, everyone

Well it's about time I update my H@H Clients then I guess. Still running 1.0.x I believe. Unfortunately it's telling me the site is in read only mode right now so I can't update gah!

sushi

Still around, but didn't post a thing since last year's January...

Prepare your popcorn, everyone

What, an epic tantrum from some H@H newbie complaining about his H@H revenue dropped from 3.5 to 1 per client? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

What would you know? Nothing.
The pretentiousness is strong with this one.

I'm no more pretentious than you; what with you going around pretending to be superior to everyone else because of your join date. That's your answer for everything, isn't it? "I joined way before everyone else, so my opinion matters more than yours! lookit me! lookit me! I'm more important than you! I'm better than you! Bow down!" As if some day on a calender defines who a person is. Pretentious indeed.

Tell me this, are you really the founder and spokesperson for EH? Because you certainly act like it.

Prepare your popcorn, everyone

/popcorn

Tell me this, are you really the founder and spokesperson for EH? Because you certainly act like it.

This thread is started by EH's founder, for one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

/popcorn

Looks like Blacksmith-kun had already prepared a popcorn just to see the scene.
I've bought my own popcorn as well jic... not that I need any. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Sep 1 2014, 14:55

why do people care so much? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm no more pretentious than you; what with you going around pretending to be superior to everyone else because of your join date. That's your answer for everything, isn't it? "I joined way before everyone else, so my opinion matters more than yours! lookit me! lookit me! I'm more important than you! I'm better than you! Bow down!" As if some day on a calender defines who a person is. Pretentious indeed.

Tell me this, are you really the founder and spokesperson for EH? Because you certainly act like it.

Well you've just gone full retard now. And you know what they say about that.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/JljCLr7.jpg)

why do people care so much? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I guess he feels threatened that people standing under his pedestal would try to raise themselves up.