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Because it's added complexity. I'll be reworking how the costs work so that being uncached doesn't add such a massive factor by itself, but again, end of the month.

It seems like CAPTCHA's would solve the problem of automated downloads, and discourage downloading huge amounts of uncached galleries by hand quickly. With less mass-downloading, the costs could go back to lower ones. It doesn't even need to be a pony one, which would probably upset some people, but something like reCAPTCHA is really simple to implement.

It seems like CAPTCHA's would solve the problem of automated downloads, and discourage downloading huge amounts of uncached galleries by hand quickly. With less mass-downloading, the costs could go back to lower ones. It doesn't even need to be a pony one, which would probably upset some people, but something like reCAPTCHA is really simple to implement.

Naaah not a good idea. Most captcha's I've seen are either A ) far too long or B ) so unreadable that I often have to re-type them at least 1 sometimes even up to 3 times (I'm not kidding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ) which is a major annoyance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) .

Can you let us know if the My Archives removal is intentional? I get the feeling it might be.

Because it's added complexity. I'll be reworking how the costs work so that being uncached doesn't add such a massive factor by itself, but again, end of the month.

An idea that occurred to me would be to give people a choice when it comes to uncached archives: Pay a bunch to get it now or have it placed in a queue to be done 'when the system has time'. I know that most of the time when grabbing something old I wouldn't mind waiting a day or so before I could download it.

Defining 'has the time' could either be a case of simply maxing out the niceness of the process doing the recaching or it could be a direct throttling, (e.g. it processes one gallery every N minutes). The latter does have the advantage of being able to say "estimated to be available at 2330UTC today".

I've been away for a week and after reading the entire thread i've concluded the following.

• Donators will be able to get free archives as stated here https://e-hentai.org/bitcoin.php on a weekly sliding scale.
• Donators can only download cache'd archives for free otherwise they pay for archive recreation costs + archive base cost(do they still get discounts?).
  (do new galleries get cache'd on gallery creation or archive request, and do they expire after a 1 month window?)
• You need to download over 100 archives a week to get the GP/CP multiplier cost added to base cost.
  If you recreate archives after that number the multiplier is ignored but base + recreation costs still apply.
• Reason for removing comment voters names in galleries based on anonymity/shitfestprevention/bias/surted(lol)/informer/sitepreservation(all speculative since Tenby likes his cloak of ambiguity).

Am i getting the gist of it?

This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Jul 31 2014, 21:29

do they still get discounts?

No.

do new galleries get cache'd on gallery creation or archive request, and do they expire after a 1 month window?

Archive request and yes.

Sorry to bother you guys but I'm not that good in English so got some question about free download.

for example for silver star that got 10 free download per day (averaged over a week). Which one is it mean?

1. You get 70 free download and every "dawn of the new day" you get +10 free download but max at 70.
2. On the start of the week you get 70 free download to use that week and got reset every specific day of the week like Monday GMT 0.00

I like the first one though.
Which one is right? if the second one which day and time it reset? or it's something else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Thank you.

This post has been edited by nj3: Jul 31 2014, 23:11

1. You get 70 free download and every "dawn of the new day" you get +10 free download but max at 70.
2. On the start of the week you get 70 free download to use that week and got reset every specific day of the week like Monday GMT 0.00

Probably neither, it's "averaged over a week" so I suppose it's like:

Everyday you get 70 free downloads minus the number of download you made in the past 6 days.

Probably neither, it's "averaged over a week" so I suppose it's like:

Everyday you get 70 free downloads minus the number of download you made in the past 6 days.

I think that's the case as well. Although if one were to be more technical, how would the checking be made- literally within last 168 hours (7 days), or since the dawn of event 7 days earlier?

Knowing that could make things bit easier to know when one would be getting more free downloads. If it's the former, then checking on My Archives (which seems to be missing at the moment) for would give you an idea, while for the latter just waiting for the next dawn of event would work.

literally within last 168 hours

Probably this, because it's the easiest to implement.

Maybe some day people will realize the actual reason for the change. I'm not telling.

Depending on how it was implemented before, this change does save on DB accesses. Which I'd guess is the actual reason.

Hi, I didn't want to make a topic about this and another poster posted something similar to this. That said, if bandwidth is a problem, why not have seeding torrents give GP so even folks on ancient systems would have incentive to help out? It's not like the site isn't tracking your seed ratio. I imagine this has been brought up before so I'm just interested in knowing why this isn't a thing.

This post has been edited by shezmu: Aug 3 2014, 07:38

A small question for Tenb:

Only the cached galleries will be free .

I am curious about why only the cached one is free?
Since the donators has their dayly limit, I don't think it will be applied for auto-download. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Google translates "big boss" to "big pineapple". We could start calling Tenboro that, maybe?

How about let's call Tenb as 'The BPA' not '10b'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
That sounds Cooooooool™. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by gc00018: Aug 3 2014, 08:03

Hi, I didn't want to make a topic about this and another poster posted something similar to this. That said, if bandwidth is a problem, why not have seeding torrents give GP so even folks on ancient systems would have incentive to help out? It's not like the site isn't tracking your seed ratio. I imagine this has been brought up before so I'm just interested in knowing why this isn't a thing.

Your seeding ratio does not affect anything, nor seeding torrents that are not yours (you must either be the gallery owner, the torrent owner, or both, see the [www.ehwiki.org] EHwiki for this). Seedmins may still give you GP; ask others for confirmation. May also contribute to your EHtracker toplist ranking, so technically, that would be already implemented.

I am curious about why only the cached one is free?
Since the donators has their dayly limit, I don't think it will be applied for auto-download. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Recaching a gallery causes the server archivers to call a PHP script to recompress all of the pictures within an archive, which is server work. As for auto-download, ask Dreamophobia why it is a very bad idea.

Manual download, manual accept. Default. Always.

I can't tell you much about the "why", but as a hobby dev and with minimal knowledge about PHP and servers, I can at least tell you this. Recaching a lot of archives will cause massive PHP calls and a lot of server work.
More to the "clientside" point, it will drain 10x (20x on panda) your GP, up to 15x (30x on panda) for the oldest galleries and credits instead at a 1:1 ratio if not available.

The big pineapple

My Little Pineapple: Formalization is Mystifying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by Mika Kurogane: Aug 3 2014, 11:23

My Little Pineapple: Formalization is Mystifying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Big words and brainy concepts FTW.

Might finally be the time to roll out Source Nexus for H@H downloads. Those multiplicative cost modifiers sound like they can get pretty scary.

They're supposed to get tweaked. They're still the same at the moment but they won't hurt 99% of people.

Also, yes, H@H downloads are supposed to be more or less "free"... Right?

Also, yes, H@H downloads are supposed to be more or less "free"... Right?

Yep, H@H downloads are free. Also they're very useful to download bloated galleries resized to an acceptable size.

e.g. this gallery: 22 @ 64MB, wtf.

Someone got hit by auto-accept, it's at the normal price now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Thanks for the confirmation, blue penguin.

So, people no longer have any valid reason to complain. They have either torrents or H@H, and they're more than likely to be able to access at least one.
Edit: Right. I forgot about the resampling. Brace for "I want my pictures at the original size".

Quoting relevant Dave quote from the epic alligator nonsense:

Please, won't someone think of the admin/staff and the spike in their workload? 99% of people here usually just "me me me" {since their preferred perversions are missing for a time}

The bracketed portion can be replaced with just about anything related to self and works in most situations.

This post has been edited by Mika Kurogane: Aug 3 2014, 18:20

A small bug:

They can still be hidden, but the cutoff is now -50.

Indeed comments below -50 are hidden, but the counts in the line "X posts (Y hidden)" still use -20 as cutoff.