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post Jul 28 2014, 19:10
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I dunno why you are so unfriendly to people downloading bunch of galleries once a month, but, if you insist on new mechanics so much, make at least a cumulative feature for those who donated. I don't like an idea to visit e-hentai everyday and systematically get a free quota from the list (because credits I saved for 2,5 years are now barely enough to DL few artists). So, It'd be great to get free galleries when it's convenient. Here is my suggestion where you get a summary of free downloads from the formulas:
days 1-10:
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F * 0.1 * (11 - D)

day 11 and after:
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F * 0.1 - (F * 0.1) % 1

where F is number of free downloads and D is number of day.
So, you get 10% less free downloads everyday (55 on day 10 for silverstar), which are capped at 10% of max value (rounded) until there is only F left and then cumulation repeats. Also we need counter please.

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post Jul 28 2014, 19:23
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 28 2014, 17:50) *
Epic, so it is like hearts. The galleries are now multiplayer, let the games begin.
LOL. Who will be drawing the dreaded 10x multiplier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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Stupid question - can anyone breakdown the 40,000 GP figure?
That's not stupid, ncoll. I was actually waiting for someone to ask.

1 Hath -> 7,700 Credits -> ~40,000 GP after fees (at the time of writing).
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post Jul 28 2014, 19:24
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I kinda understand the reason behind this tweak. But 2,421 Credits for just 10.59 MB is totally a rip off.

I mean, for 5 years, I've never used any automatic tool for downloading and earned Credits in HV fair and square, but now I'm treated as a criminal.

Damn it, now I'm pissed.

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post Jul 28 2014, 19:41
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Why not use Pony puzzle as a solution. It is hard for newcomers to get so many GP for download. Gradually, newcomers will become less and less. I don't think that loss users is a good idea.
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post Jul 28 2014, 19:47
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QUOTE(tarak2002 @ Jul 28 2014, 19:24) *
I kinda understand the reason behind this tweak. But 2,421 Credits for just 10.59 MB is totally a rip off.

I mean, for 5 years, I've never used any automatic tool for downloading and earned Credits in HV fair and square, but now I'm treated as a criminal.

Damn it, now I'm pissed.
Exchange the credits for GP, by the way. I know that won't help much with the issue at hand, but if you use credits, you're actually making it about 5 times worse (180 C = 1k GP, deduce exchange fees, etc).

Dreamophobia technically got hit by a 110x multiplier this way and that was 1) an accident, 2) not for his own use, 3) just because a friend asked him about this and he wanted to confirm the issue on his side and he had auto-accept, auto-download on for some reason.

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post Jul 28 2014, 20:09
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QUOTE(magicianmaster @ Jul 28 2014, 10:41) *

Why not use Pony puzzle as a solution.

That's for botters; they're not the problem.
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post Jul 28 2014, 20:28
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My english is not good...and I'm proud of my country(TW & CN), so pardon me for using Chinese....thanks....

这回亲爱的大菠萝失算了,他应该设计成: 

表站现在这样 
里站仍然保持原样,但是在打开每个画廊,或者下载归档的时候,有可能提示小马或者更复杂的图案,答对通过,答错扣C
或者GP,这种方法也可以有效防止恶意下载. 

验证码途径可以有效的反BOT自动抓图,自动下载归档,因为你在打开画廊的时候有可能被要求输码,下载归档的时候,
也有可能被要求输码....自动抓图和自动下载归档的BOT无法识别验证码则无法自动下载.... 

但是他没想起来... 


现在这个路子等于断了新人,没有新鲜血液的输入,生命会枯竭... 

E站画廊的最主要的一项功能:下载... 
没有了下载,E站是什么? 

在线的那只是预览,新人是没有权限看到所有本的,也没有权限看到大图等特殊能力的....
所有去E站的人,99%都想下载...这是E站的主要功能,在这个功能上下手,有问题... 

我们当初接触HV,也是通过下载,因为我们需要C... 


E站如果照现在这样发展,最后全站将变成一个大型封闭的网络,成员主要由有星的看本人和铁秆玩家组成,也就是会 员帝国,收益再从这个庞大的帝国中榨取,用户质量度高,消费能力强... 

它的那个所谓的缓存,也许就是为了会员帝国而生,一个会员掏钱下了,别的会员可以在一定时间内FREE... 


大菠萝完全有资金和能力再架设服务器,而且对于我们这些遍布在全球各地的高延迟的下载者来说,他的服务器仅仅 承受每人几十甚至几百K的流量,况且咱又不是时时刻刻都在下... 

人手工正常下载对服务器的压力可以通过扩容解决,甚至根本不需要扩容,因为谁天天下啊,除了那些自动抓图或者下
载的机器人,但是机器人可以通过验证码途径屏蔽,E站应该也没有人去DDOS或者CC,下载节点甚至可以使用廉价的无硬 防的服务器,资金对大菠萝来说一点问题也没有... 


大菠萝的此次行为,如果是长远考虑的话,是正确的,为什么? 因为据说有版权商找他的事了,而最好的避免版权商找事的方法就是全力保全现有会员,形成封闭的会员帝国,版权商
想找事也进不来..... 

所谓会员帝国就是类似于下载电影的论坛必须得有邀请码,没有邀请码进不来,你就是再强大的版权商,没有邀请码你
也进不了电影论坛...一个政策保全措施... 

My english is not good...and I'm proud of my country(TW & CN), so pardon me for using Chinese....thanks....

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post Jul 28 2014, 20:46
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Varst, please, this might be the key to what's going on. Are you a bad enough dude to translate this?

EDIT: A Catgirl Camarilla poster... without a catgirl icon? Okay, never mind, I don't need explanations.
QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Jul 22 2012, 00:54) *
Shit just got unreal.


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post Jul 28 2014, 21:03
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It appears a pineapple is involved
The plot thickens
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post Jul 28 2014, 21:24
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QUOTE(tiap @ Jul 28 2014, 22:03) *

It appears a pineapple is involved
The plot thickens

(IMG:[bbsimg.ngfiles.com] http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/13814000/ngbbs46d48ff58bb6f.jpg)

Just look at this sick, twisted bastard. It's gotta be his fault.

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post Jul 28 2014, 22:11
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Google translates "big boss" to "big pineapple". We could start calling Tenboro that, maybe?

EDIT: Also, from the previous post I concur that mr chaos-x need to chill out.

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post Jul 28 2014, 22:26
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jul 28 2014, 23:11) *

Google translates "big boss" to "big pineapple". We could start calling Tenboro that, maybe?

EDIT: Also, from the previous post I concur that mr chaos-x need to chill out.

Now hold on there, I was only joking this time. I didn't even know what the whole pineapple thing was even supposed to be.
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post Jul 28 2014, 23:12
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QUOTE(Myrmex @ Jul 28 2014, 05:40) *

• Popularize Home@Hentai and lower the threshold of outcomming connection speed. Though I'm online 16 hrs a day and have things to share, I don't even now what that service is because of sh*tty internet.

It is really popular, that's not even remotely a problem. We're not coming close to using up the bandwidth available through H@H.

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QUOTE(Dreamophobia @ Jul 28 2014, 08:47) *

As a donator i can not get the free download link now...
I just click the download button and 1.5M credits disappeared (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
However I haven't downloaded anything for weeks till then.
Gallery link https://e-hentai.org/g/372071/916e1a0220/

Checked again and find that some newer gallerys give free link.
Is there any limits for free download?

I shouldn't laugh, but it's showing up as "free" for me now. Did that seriously cost you 1.5million credits? I never use the auto-accept option, if only so I can tell if I downloaded something earlier in the week and forgot.
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post Jul 28 2014, 23:45
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I shouldn't laugh, but it's showing up as "free" for me now. Did that seriously cost you 1.5million credits? I never use the auto-accept option, if only so I can tell if I downloaded something earlier in the week and forgot.

He had to pay 1.5 million credits because it wasn't cached. Now that he downloaded it, it's free for stars or 148,496 GP for people like me.
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post Jul 28 2014, 23:59
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Jul 28 2014, 19:46) *

Varst, please, this might be the key to what's going on. Are you a bad enough dude to translate this?


Um...well it's okay, but can I do that in note form? Cause most part of that suggestion has been mentioned already; those are mainly explanation.

Also, it sounds like almost every patch notes in HV: Tenboro sometimes just overdo things, mind you. I'm not saying there will be any changes, but it's new so I do think it's up to review in a few weeks' time. It's kinda hard to perform any changes perfectly without a delicated team for balancing, so I'd probably wait and see if the real usage would change his mind.

And if you guys want any kind of assurance, here it is:

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 22:09) *

Let's just say the cost will more than likely be adjusted, but you'll have to wait until the end of the month.


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post Jul 29 2014, 01:32
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Oh come on, now you even entirely removed the "comment upvote" list? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jul 29 2014, 02:07
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QUOTE(alearg @ Jul 28 2014, 14:45) *

He had to pay 1.5 million credits because it wasn't cached. Now that he downloaded it, it's free for stars or 148,496 GP for people like me.


Maybe those with too much GP to spend could 'sell' their caching services... pay them a fraction of the original amount (but more than what they would've gotten from selling GP directly) to have the gallery cached. Then the it's cheaper for everyone afterwards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 29 2014, 02:15
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QUOTE(lightshader @ Jul 29 2014, 01:07) *

Maybe those with too much GP to spend could 'sell' their caching services... pay them a fraction of the original amount (but more than what they would've gotten from selling GP directly) to have the gallery cached. Then the it's cheaper for everyone afterwards. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I feel a smart business plan coming up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 29 2014, 02:41
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Maybe the one who has paid the cache service should get some rebate for every other users who downloaded the archive (rebate cost bore by the other users). Seems fair to me since right now only the first user needs to pay the cost, which is kinda unfair and may lead to some waiting game.
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post Jul 29 2014, 03:57
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He had to pay 1.5 million credits because it wasn't cached. Now that he downloaded it, it's free for stars or 148,496 GP for people like me.


Ok what the hell is up with that gallery. How can you guys visit it and all I get is a this gallery is unavailable/have been removed...
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