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Jul 27 2014, 22:33
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Tenboro

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I forgot to mention, but the bugs with the free downloads should have been fixed earlier today. QUOTE(indarain @ Jul 27 2014, 16:45)  will the cost increased because of the free download galleries? Nope. QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 27 2014, 17:43)  Depends how download crazy someone was. I think could have downloaded 80gigs a day if I felt like it, usually I downloaded like 5-10 archives a week. It would have been possible for people to go mental and download all the hentai 30-40tb, but now its not feasible.
Some people were downloading 4-5000 archives per week. So the whole point of the patch is making it more expensive for those who use it indiscriminately without increasing the cost for everyone, which was the alternative.
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Jul 27 2014, 22:33
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 21:24)  Except the site still treats us like garbage now unless we donate like you did. Dude, be patient. For now 10B is fighting the issue at hand, likely later (when he have more time) he will try to put some equilibrium into the GP equation. (also, check you MM) EDIT: Ops... ninja'd by Tenboro This post has been edited by blue penguin: Jul 27 2014, 22:35
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Jul 27 2014, 22:38
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SoraNoAki
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QUOTE(Myrmex @ Jul 27 2014, 21:30)  So everyone else can have 1-2 galleries per day? Well thank you sir. Are we back in Soviet Russia or what?
People who claim they can only download 2 galleries are lazy bums.
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Jul 27 2014, 22:48
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chaos-x
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 23:33)  Some people were downloading 4-5000 archives per week. So the whole point of the patch is making it more expensive for those who use it indiscriminately without increasing the cost for everyone, which was the alternative.
Should be on average about 500 per week for me, give or take a 100. Just spent 200k GP in a few hours. Judging by your non-reaction, you're not planning on changing what you've done.
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Jul 27 2014, 22:51
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 22:48)  Should be on average about 500 per week for me, give or take a 100. Just spent 200k GP in a few hours. Judging by your non-reaction, you're not planning on changing what you've done.
Why would I be planning on changing it? I just added it. Some bitching is to be expected, but the change was necessary in the short term, and may be tweaked in the future. As for the free downloads, the only reason there are now free downloads instead of discounts is that many of the 1000+ ones were people who paid a fraction of everyone else.
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Jul 27 2014, 22:51
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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 21:48)  Should be on average about 500 per week for me, give or take a 100. Just spent 200k GP in a few hours. Judging by your non-reaction, you're not planning on changing what you've done.
Maybe you should try torrenting?
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Jul 27 2014, 22:57
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chaos-x
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That was with torrenting. It would've been much higher otherwise. QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 23:51)  Why would I be planning on changing it? I just added it. Some bitching is to be expected, but the change was necessary in the short term, and may be tweaked in the future.
As for the free downloads, the only reason there are now free downloads instead of discounts is that many of the 1000+ ones were people who paid a fraction of everyone else.
Well then, good job. You got what you wanted. People will download less now. And in turn, people like me and DarkNemesis won't be bringing much to the table for people to download.
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Jul 27 2014, 23:03
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DarkNemesis
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 27 2014, 22:51)  Maybe you should try torrenting?
Useless for the older galleries (expecially the less used, more expensive ones) since there are no seeders (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
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Jul 27 2014, 23:09
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(DarkNemesis @ Jul 27 2014, 23:03)  Useless for the older galleries (expecially the less used, more expensive ones) since there are no seeders (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . You can't pull the favoritism card for the older galleries that need to be recreated, since those are excluded from the free offer for the donators. Let's just say the cost will more than likely be adjusted, but you'll have to wait until the end of the month.
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Jul 27 2014, 23:09
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QUOTE making it more expensive for those who use it indiscriminately If I like artist - I get all his works (usually ~20 galleries). And I like many artists, so I can state: insane costs won't stop me from doing that, the whole procedure will just become absolutely inconvenient. Saving image by image instead getting archive for money I earned, messing up DL queue, meeting viewing limit, looking for working torrents, deleting them because no seeds, sleepless night, saving images again... That is thing you do once and forget. Now it's a headache. After all, when I want to download something - I click thing by myself, then I unzip, rename, sort, deposit. It is really slow process. Hundreds of other downloads happen until I click the second one. And server seems to handle everything just fine so far. Is that the case? Let's open a donation pool to support it then. Let's find people who are overloading server with their "100 DLs at time" and tell them it's no good. Let's prevent users below N level to download at all, but when they get their level - that's their right to download whatever they want. Whenever they want.
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Jul 27 2014, 23:11
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peincz
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I agree that the cost seems to be little too high. After about twenty archives, the cost of one older 15MB gallery is 8kGP. The bigger files then climb to retardedly high prices.
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Jul 27 2014, 23:12
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(peincz @ Jul 27 2014, 23:11)  I agree that the cost seems to be little too high. After about twenty archives, the cost of one older 15MB gallery is 8kGP. The bigger files then climb to retardedly high prices. The cost scaling doesn't even start to kick in until after a hundred downloads. QUOTE(Myrmex @ Jul 27 2014, 23:09)  Is that the case? Let's open a donation pool to support it then. There is one. QUOTE(Myrmex @ Jul 27 2014, 23:09)  Let's prevent users below N level to download at all, but when they get their level - that's their right to download whatever they want. You playing the clicky game doesn't help pay for more servers.
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Jul 27 2014, 23:21
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peincz
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Ok, then it seems the older gallery modifier is high, for example this is currently 10305GP, a little too high for just one download. This post has been edited by peincz: Jul 27 2014, 23:21
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Jul 27 2014, 23:21
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5000 archives per week are like a gallery every two minutes It's halfway between impressive and sad
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Jul 27 2014, 23:29
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Myrmex
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QUOTE There is one. Does not seem to be working, is it? If performance is that bad, add a note to main page so people could support. I've found out about donations quite recently. QUOTE You playing the clicky game doesn't help pay for more servers. Of course not, but there'll be 30% less load on server because most people are fine just with online viewing and are DLing only because it's easy, and other will be too lazy to munchkin for that. If someone wants to get some galleries so much - he'll have to sacrifice his time. This post has been edited by Myrmex: Jul 27 2014, 23:29
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Jul 27 2014, 23:52
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blue penguin
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Tenboro, as a middle term project, what do you think about adding another doggie bag that downloads the resized images instead of the full ones? If there are people that download and read so many galleries I suppose they do not need the full quality images. The archive size would be a lot smaller saving, bandwidth (and GP for whoever is downloading).
(I do not know how much code would be needed through)
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Jul 28 2014, 00:16
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DarkNemesis
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 23:09)  You can't pull the favoritism card for the older galleries that need to be recreated, since those are excluded from the free offer for the donators.
Let's just say the cost will more than likely be adjusted, but you'll have to wait until the end of the month.
Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I don't have anything against paying a little more GP for older/less used galleries so they can at least stay and won't get deleted so soon but the way it is now (take a 4MB gallery with 4 pictures that costs 2.000 GP as an example or one that is 150 MB big and asks for 100.000 GP (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ) is a little over the top (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) .
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Jul 28 2014, 01:10
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chaos-x
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At least increase the threshold. Why punish people who download 10 times less by hand than those bots.
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Jul 28 2014, 01:22
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 14:33)  Some people were downloading 4-5000 archives per week. So the whole point of the patch is making it more expensive for those who use it indiscriminately without increasing the cost for everyone, which was the alternative.
Then I'm absolved. I don't even have that many in my Favorites. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 28 2014, 01:34
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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 15:10)  At least increase the threshold. Why punish people who download 10 times less by hand than those bots.
Agree with this. I think I've downloaded like 900-something galleries in July and the cost for me is ridiculous compared to what it used to be. I don't think it's gonna slow me down that much it just really fucking sucks, lol.
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