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post Jul 26 2014, 19:51
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I want to ask you guys few questions. I found out today GP for downloading archives is way more expensive than it used to be. I used to pay 500gp for 50mb with my gold aura 50% discount. But now I have to pay 4000gp for same 50mb file, no discount,
way more expensive price. And I checked out my friend's account and he still pays 500gp for 50MB file. Whats wrong with my account? I also found out my gold aura is gone from the dashboard. Little help would be highly appreciated.

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post Jul 26 2014, 19:57
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Working as intended. Your gold star is fine.
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post Jul 26 2014, 20:06
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A simple 10mb file cost ~1000 credits where before it's ~100 credits; an 80mb file now cost ~20000 credits.

QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 26 2014, 12:57) *

Working as intended. Your gold star is fine.


Has there been any recent changes to the way doggie bag archive or gold star discounts works that a two to three fold increase in cost is considered working as intended?

If there can be a post or announcement that can clear up why this happened just this morning I'm not sure how it's as intentional.

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post Jul 26 2014, 20:12
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<tenboro> but it doesn't cost more than it used to, base
<tenboro> however it will turn up the cost for people who are grabbing a large number
<tenboro> also to generate an archive for old galleries that don't have one cached
<tenboro> simply because there's a lot of churn on the archivers right now
<tenboro> cost increase only if someone didn't download it for like.. 30 days or so


You'll get more details with the patch notes.
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post Jul 26 2014, 20:13
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 26 2014, 19:57) *

Working as intended. Your gold star is fine.

https://e-hentai.org/g/722729/278cab7911/
For this archive I have to pay 1700 gp for 20 MB file. And it's way more expensive than what I used to pay.
And 50% discount for gold aura is gone too. Wonder whats going on right now.

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post Jul 26 2014, 20:18
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There is no discount from stars anymore:
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation#Stars

Base cost of that gallery is closer to 400 GP btw, you've been downloading a lot.

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post Jul 26 2014, 20:31
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 26 2014, 19:12) *

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Damn, I had a feeling this would happen, welp, no archiving the galleries then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 26 2014, 20:35
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The percentage discount was removed for donators and replaced with a certain numbers of free downloads per day, i think the donation page has been updated to reflect this already https://e-hentai.org/bitcoin.php.
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post Jul 26 2014, 21:54
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 26 2014, 20:18) *

There is no discount from stars anymore:
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Donation#Stars

Base cost of that gallery is closer to 400 GP btw, you've been downloading a lot.

Oh, now I get whats going on. Thanks for the reply.

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post Jul 26 2014, 21:55
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Answer in the new patch note.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=168839
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post Jul 27 2014, 17:29
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Jul 26 2014, 08:35) *

The percentage discount was removed for donators and replaced with a certain numbers of free downloads per day, i think the donation page has been updated to reflect this already https://e-hentai.org/bitcoin.php.



Now I just get a load of free downloads rather than functionally infinite downloads, however on the plus side I can sell more gp for HV.
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post Jul 27 2014, 21:15
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This stupid update screws me over colossally. I had to pay 3k GP for a 6MB gallery. Really appreciate being treated like dirt.

I'll quote myself from the patch topic:
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I've spent over 600$ on translation commissions from Saha, which first thing went into this site. I've also spent many hours translating works myself. Which also went first thing into this site. I do not upload anywhere else.

Now what's the bloody point for me to even bother commissioning or translating works myself, if the amount of GP I get will only be enough to download about 10-20 works that were uploaded more than 3 years ago.


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post Jul 28 2014, 02:38
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Is there any exception in the "free archives" system?
Because I had to pay for my first archive, but then the system "realized" that I have free downloads and now any archive I look at, its cost is "Free!"


Okay, found the answer here: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Doggie_Bag

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Costs
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* Older archives (those that have not been downloaded by anyone in over 30 days and whose gallery is over 30 days old) will have an increased cost. Note that this increased cost overrides the above one as well as the freebie allotment for donators.


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post Jul 28 2014, 02:43
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QUOTE(jontsuba @ Jul 27 2014, 17:38) *

Is there any exception in the "free archives" system?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2014, 14:09) *

You can't pull the favoritism card for the older galleries that need to be recreated, since those are excluded from the free offer for the donators.
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post Jul 28 2014, 03:51
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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 21:15) *
This stupid update screws me over colossally. I had to pay 3k GP for a 6MB gallery. Really appreciate being treated like dirt.

I'll quote myself from the patch topic:
See Joe above for the quote.

People, read patch issues, understand, and... Joe, what happened to Shadow Weaver? Is he still around?

Because seriously.
QUOTE(Shadow Weaver @ Jan 28 2009, 13:08) *
Dude you have 500! I've used about 60-70 and I guarantee I've seen a hell of a lot more galleries than you. Be more selective, be less horny.
Shadow Weaver is (was?) a Vigilante and has spent a lot of time working on all galleries. I doubt this update would affect him in any way. If it did, he'd understand.

Let's redirect people to the patch notes if that hasn't been done yet...

- Focus on the very first post. Don't read between the lines. Read it. Read all of it. Read the major reason it happened.
- There was a worse system before fluctuating with server exhaustion. Do you want that back? This could potentially be much more damaging to your funds.
- If you still don't get it, please learn how a server cluster works and how individuals pushing a truckload of PHP archive requests to it collectively exhaust it by doing it totally wrong.
- For people like me with a short temper and a short attention span, here's the tl;dr version:

As long as you don't cause the server to recreate an archive (this increases server processing load), you will not be charged extra, unless you download too many archives (this increases server bandwidth load). An even shorter version is download popular stuff and not lots of it. Or use torrents if they exist for older ones and wait, as they are likely to exist. Simple, right?

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post Jul 28 2014, 03:57
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QUOTE(Mika Kurogane @ Jul 27 2014, 18:51) *

what happened to Shadow Weaver? Is he still around?

Retired, dunno what he's up to.
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post Jul 28 2014, 04:02
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 28 2014, 03:57) *
Retired, dunno what he's up to.
Sadly, I'm not surprised. I hope he's fine, but I'm sure as hell glad you, varst and Binglo are still around and taking care of things.
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post Jul 28 2014, 09:00
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Now what's the bloody point for me to even bother commissioning or translating works myself, if the amount of GP I get will only be enough to download about 10-20 works that were uploaded more than 3 years ago.


I errr didn't mean anything personal but maybe you just haven't earned enough GP huhuhu, look at me , i'm a new uploader and i'm already earning millions of GP per upload
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post Jul 28 2014, 11:47
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QUOTE(chaos-x @ Jul 27 2014, 09:15) *

This stupid update screws me over colossally. I had to pay 3k GP for a 6MB gallery. Really appreciate being treated like dirt.

I'll quote myself from the patch topic:



GP originally was 5-10 times as expensive. Few years ago Tenboro lowered the GP costs by 10 fold, currently they were about 5 fold cheaper. Tenboro said he would keep an eye on it and keep it as low as sustainably possible.

The super leecher automated scripts that are grabbing everything have ruined it for everyone. Now its about re-balancing the system so its sustainable.

If you are willing to drop 600 on translations for GP for downloading galleries you could get a gold star for free downloads and a couple of slots of GP income.

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post Jul 28 2014, 12:42
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jul 28 2014, 12:47) *

GP originally was 5-10 times as expensive. Few years ago Tenboro lowered the GP costs by 10 fold, currently they were about 5 fold cheaper. Tenboro said he would keep an eye on it and keep it as low as sustainably possible.

The super leecher automated scripts that are grabbing everything have ruined it for everyone. Now its about re-balancing the system so its sustainable.

If you are willing to drop 600 on translations for GP for downloading galleries you could get a gold star for free downloads and a couple of slots of GP income.

The 600 was a total of all commissions I've had from Sayo by this point. Which would be about 7 works. I didn't burn through that money in one go. I don't commission for GP's sake, that would be silly. But the GP I get lets me spend it on downloads, which are for entertainment/work inspiration and translations.

It's a circle:
Translate something I like -> get GP -> download stuff -> get pumped up -> translate something I like...

Right now that circle is broken (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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