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So, I have some general questions about H@H which the FAQ and the wikia don't answer.

1. Is it safe to modify the files in the "Downloaded" folder? (ex: Rename them, delete them, etc.)

2. Is it safe to move the location of the H@H folder itself? (ex: Into an external HDD)

3. How do Quality and Trust differ and what factors affect them? The wikia says that both of them depend on "reliability and stability" of the client but there's no quantifiable details on how they are increased (or decreased).

4. What's the new formula for Hath? The wiki said that you couldn't get Hath unless H@H was doing 40 KB/s but I think I was getting Hath way before I hit that point.

5. Does downloading using Hathdl affect uploading/decrease quality and trust in some way?

6. Is downloading using Hathdl a quicker way to increase your cache compared to just waiting for H@H to automatically do it?

7. What happens if the same file is downloaded twice? (ex: if the same hathdl file was put into the hathdl folder twice) Does it override the old one? Does a warning pop up? Or does the new file just get removed.

8. What is the scale of the x-axis in the H@H graph? I know the x-axis is time but how much time is one segment?

9. What do the 2 lines (green and orange) represent? I'm assuming that one is uploads while the other is downloads but it would be nice to get confirmation.

If anybody else has any questions, feel free to post them here.

1. Is it safe to modify the files in the "Downloaded" folder? (ex: Rename them, delete them, etc.)

Yep, feel free to do so.

2. Is it safe to move the location of the H@H folder itself? (ex: Into an external HDD)

yep, but move the entire folder tree together, including the data and the jars

3. How do Quality and Trust differ and what factors affect them? The wikia says that both of them depend on "reliability and stability" of the client but there's no quantifiable details on how they are increased (or decreased).

trust goes up fater and goes down faster -> gives you an idea how the client is doing now
quality goes up slower and goes down slower, with an adaptive ratio -> gives an idea how the client/connection is doing over a longer period of time

4. What's the new formula for Hath? The wiki said that you couldn't get Hath unless H@H was doing 40 KB/s but I think I was getting Hath way before I hit that point.

Long ago that might have been possible, I think that limit was added by Tenboro a year or so ago.

5. Does downloading using Hathdl affect uploading/decrease quality and trust in some way?

Nope. quality/trust rely on upload speed hathdl on download speed. Unless your router is from late '80s that should not have any impact on one another.

6. Is downloading using Hathdl a quicker way to increase your cache compared to just waiting for H@H to automatically do it?

I suppose the quickest way is to setup the H@H proxy and visit some popular galleries. Never tested the hathdl method though.

7. What happens if the same file is downloaded twice? (ex: if the same hathdl file was put into the hathdl folder twice) Does it override the old one? Does a warning pop up? Or does the new file just get removed.

I suppose H@H figures it out and do not download it again (that's common for HTTP libraries), but the real answer is in the code

8. What is the scale of the x-axis in the H@H graph? I know the x-axis is time but how much time is one segment?

9. What do the 2 lines (green and orange) represent? I'm assuming that one is uploads while the other is downloads but it would be nice to get confirmation.

I never bothered to boot the graphical on, sorry.

9. What do the 2 lines (green and orange) represent? I'm assuming that one is uploads while the other is downloads but it would be nice to get confirmation.

Green line should be 'current' upload speed, orange line should be 'average' upload speed. It gives you an idea of your client's burst speed, and the average speed between the bursts, I think.

Okay, both of your replies were very informative. Thank you!

I suppose the quickest way is to setup the H@H proxy and visit some popular galleries. Never tested the hathdl method though.

I wanna say it does. I've downloaded some galleries "free" through H@H, and I always see an increase in my cache size. Kinda makes sense.

Green line should be 'current' upload speed, orange line should be 'average' upload speed. It gives you an idea of your client's burst speed, and the average speed between the bursts, I think.

I believe this to be correct as well. And I wanna say the graph is for the past half hour or quarter hour.

Another quick question: What's the average download speed for the H@H client supposed to be? I'm downloading a lot of stuff through H@H but it's only going at a rate of 5 KB/s while my upload speed reaches 200 KB/s.

This post has been edited by Noreally: Jul 28 2014, 22:29

For me the speed was often about 1 small gallery per hour (i.e. around 30MBs/hour). So 5KB/s is a pretty good speed.

For me the speed was often about 1 small gallery per hour (i.e. around 30MBs/hour). So 5KB/s is a pretty good speed.

Is that when you just allow H@H to passively build your cache? Or is that when you actively put things into your hathdl folder to build up your cache?

That was using hathdl, but it was a long time ago. I rebooted my H@H recently and will try to grab a hathdl now to see if things changed.

OK, tested. It took me ~20 minutes (from Mon Jul 28 22:48:41 UTC 2014 to Mon Jul 28 23:10:24 UTC 2014) to download this: https://e-hentai.org/g/621067/46c1fe4f10/

6.3 MB in 20 mins => 20 MB / hour (remember that the gallery downloaded is the resized version, so it has 6.3 MB and not 37.8 MB)

OK, tested. It took me ~20 minutes (from Mon Jul 28 22:48:41 UTC 2014 to Mon Jul 28 23:10:24 UTC 2014) to download this: https://e-hentai.org/g/621067/46c1fe4f10/

6.3 MB in 20 mins => 20 MB / hour (remember that the gallery downloaded is the resized version, so it has 6.3 MB and not 37.8 MB)

Ugh, that's terrible.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

6,3 MB is <1 second for me in archive downloads.

This post has been edited by SoraNoAki: Jul 29 2014, 02:50

Nah, that was a test of downloading through H@H. That thing is meant to be slow.

My archive downloads also go around 2-3MB/s

Nah, that was a test of downloading through H@H. That thing is meant to be slow.

My archive downloads also go around 2-3MB/s

Archive downloads can go at 80MB/s if you're near the NL datacenter where it's served from.

But to my home Verizon FIOS connection I barely get 300KB/s. Sucks.

Okay, I know I'm just asking before I buy any, but really, does hosting the H@H on a dedicated server gives much more Haths than running these on VPN per client, assuming I've prepared a large cache beforehand?

If I have to lease multiple IP addresses or something like that, how many IP addresses I need to have on the server to break even?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Aug 12 2014, 14:11

I'd say that for a start get a general purpose VPS, and boot a small H@H on it. As you're playing around with GNU/Linux stuff a lot recently you will find that setting up apache/nginx and building some simple sites it's fun. i.e. H@H will not consume much of a decent yet cheap VPS, and you will find other personal usages for the VPS.

This experiment will get you a feeling for H@H and VPS setup, without wasting any money.

Okay, I know I'm just asking before I buy any, but really, does hosting the H@H on a dedicated server gives much more Haths than running these on VPN per client, assuming I've prepared a large cache beforehand?

If I have to lease multiple IP addresses or something like that, how many IP addresses I need to have on the server to break even?

You mean VPS?

VPS ends up being cheaper. I get dedis bc I like to customize my server my way; and I get extra space for backing up all my porn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

For some reason H@H seems to automatically prefer dedicated servers and gives them much more connections than my VPS's. My dedis with multiple IP's get twice as much hath and 5-10x more hits than my VPS with multiple IP.

I'm trying to get some KS-1's now, but it's pretty difficult to see them in stock. Oh, and FYI, the Kimsufi KS-2's are now secretly 2 TB. Pretty damn good for a 10 euro seed box.

This post has been edited by awvnx: Aug 13 2014, 01:55

For some reason H@H seems to automatically prefer dedicated servers and gives them much more connections than my VPS's.

I'm not sure about that.... I think H@H depends on region, connection quality/speed, and harddisk I/O speed, among other things. A VPS with SSD, limited CPU and RAM from a high quality provider is blazing, whereas a shitty dedi barely does half the hits. My contract isn't up, so I'm stuck with them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Are Kimsufis stuff real dedis?

This post has been edited by treesloth: Aug 13 2014, 02:31

Yep. They're cheap because they're just motherboards sitting on cardboard trays and packed densely. OVH/Kimsufi posted pictures of the rack at some point but I can't find em.

The Atom N2800 is more than fast enough for running rtorrent and H@H. I don't see how a dedicated server can be slower than a VPS at the same price point.

I'd say that for a start get a general purpose VPS, and boot a small H@H on it. As you're playing around with GNU/Linux stuff a lot recently you will find that setting up apache/nginx and building some simple sites it's fun.

I've already set up these long ago, actually.

You mean VPS?

VPS ends up being cheaper. I get dedis bc I like to customize my server my way; and I get extra space for backing up all my porn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I really meant to ask if a dedicated server would give more Hath, actually. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

For some reason H@H seems to automatically prefer dedicated servers and gives them much more connections than my VPS's. My dedis with multiple IP's get twice as much hath and 5-10x more hits than my VPS with multiple IP.

How many IP address does it takes to break even the cost?

I'm not sure about that.... I think H@H depends on region, connection quality/speed, and harddisk I/O speed, among other things. A VPS with SSD, limited CPU and RAM from a high quality provider is blazing, whereas a shitty dedi barely does half the hits. My contract isn't up, so I'm stuck with them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

So a SSD VPS beats a dedicated server any day?
Their storage is a little low, but I guess it won't hurt to buy one...

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Aug 13 2014, 09:46