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post Jun 24 2014, 06:49
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jun 24 2014, 12:12) *

I'm just wondering how a maxed 2H/light compares to 2H of other styles. It seems like the plate PMI route isn't that good.


What you mean is: "It seems like the plate heavy PMI route isn't that good." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Shade (light) >>> Heavy

Evade >>> PMI

For heavy, you have to trade-off between defense and offense. Plate or power? What to mix and what to match?

For light, you get offense and defense in one gear, which is amazing.

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post Jun 24 2014, 07:01
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 24 2014, 14:49) *

What you mean is: "It seems like the plate heavy PMI route isn't that good." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Shade (light) >>> Heavy

Evade >>> PMI

For heavy, you have to trade-off between defense and offense. Plate or power? What to mix and what to match?

For light, you get offense and defense in one gear, which is amazing.


Well, you can wear 2 Power of slaughter and you will get more ADB than all 5 shades combined (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 24 2014, 07:28
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 24 2014, 12:49) *

What you mean is: "It seems like the plate heavy PMI route isn't that good." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Shade (light) >>> Heavy

Evade >>> PMI

For heavy, you have to trade-off between defense and offense. Plate or power? What to mix and what to match?

For light, you get offense and defense in one gear, which is amazing.


Shade is good for 2H, however, an ethereal 2H weapon is necessary. Otherwise, the high burden of 2H weapon will reduce your evade by a lot. The problem is that a ethereal 2H weapon with good roll is too rare.

With leather, 2H is still alright. At least the player won't die easily.
With plate, one-shoted come very often due to its slow killing speed and weak resist.
With power, normal attack is also deathly.......
Using a mace do not make thing better because it kill too slow and the monsters will wake up and use skill as the same time.

If I have a fully forge gear I may have a different opinion.
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post Jun 24 2014, 07:38
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 24 2014, 14:28) *

With plate, one-shoted come very often due to its slow killing speed and weak resist.
With power, normal attack is also deathly.......
Using a mace do not make thing better because it kill too slow and the monsters will wake up and use skill as the same time.

If I have a fully forge gear I may have a different opinion.


Forged heavy doesn't make it that much better, because PMI just doesn't cut it anymore. Your statements pretty much sums it up.
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:09
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 24 2014, 06:49) *

What you mean is: "It seems like the plate heavy PMI route isn't that good." (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Shade (light) >>> Heavy

Evade >>> PMI

For heavy, you have to trade-off between defense and offense. Plate or power? What to mix and what to match?

For light, you get offense and defense in one gear, which is amazing.

Reminds me of the days where Evade Silk was the best melee gear!

Also random question:
Forging needs some weird stuff now, where do I get this?
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post Jun 24 2014, 08:15
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 24 2014, 14:09) *

Reminds me of the days where Evade Silk was the best melee gear!

Also random question:
Forging needs some weird stuff now, where do I get this?

item shop.
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post Jun 24 2014, 10:06
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 24 2014, 08:15) *

item shop.

meh that sucks.
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:17
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:21
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What do we look like, the catholic church?

Who knows with all the pedophiles around here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:30
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Who knows with all the pedophiles around here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7E3Aw4brMM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Too bad it is only in Chinese (Mandarin).

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post Jun 24 2014, 11:59
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 24 2014, 07:28) *

The problem is that a ethereal 2H weapon with good roll is too rare.

but he does own it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 24 2014, 07:28) *

With leather, 2H is still alright. At least the player won't die easily.

btw, what's better with leather? mace or estoc?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 24 2014, 11:17) *

What do we look like, the catholic church?

god, please, no! not another one! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jun 24 2014, 14:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 24 2014, 17:59) *

btw, what's better with leather? mace or estoc?

Mace is not work at higher level. At my level, the damage infected on the main target of mace is even lower than the bleeding damage of longsword.
Longsword and estoc are both working well depended on the situation.
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post Jun 24 2014, 15:29
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 24 2014, 01:28) *

Shade is good for 2H, however, an ethereal 2H weapon is necessary. Otherwise, the high burden of 2H weapon will reduce your evade by a lot. The problem is that a ethereal 2H weapon with good roll is too rare.


I don't feel that's the case at all. I was using a demonic estoc for a long time with good results. It drops by evade by about 6%. When using a full fleet/SD set, its not that terrible.
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post Jun 24 2014, 15:45
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jun 24 2014, 21:29) *

I don't feel that's the case at all. I was using a demonic estoc for a long time with good results. It drops by evade by about 6%. When using a full fleet/SD set, its not that terrible.

Well, my shade set is much worse than your (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) .
You cannot really use your top class forged shade to compare with others.

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post Jun 24 2014, 18:31
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Jun 23 2014, 23:12) *

I'm just wondering how a maxed 2H/light compares to 2H of other styles. It seems like the plate PMI route isn't that good.

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9.4 k damage pls
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post Jun 24 2014, 18:37
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QUOTE(cavecricket48 @ Jun 24 2014, 18:31) *

9.4 k damage pls

200% hit, 61% evade and all those profs... suddenly i feel like a tadpole in an ocean... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Jun 24 2014, 21:39
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Jenga's richyness makes me feel like trashcat after he got haxx0red.
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post Jun 24 2014, 21:58
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Jun 24 2014, 15:39) *

Jenga's richyness makes me feel like trashcat after he got haxx0red.


Trashcat fell victim to le hax?
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post Jun 25 2014, 01:10
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QUOTE(cavecricket48 @ Jun 24 2014, 19:58) *
Trashcat fell victim to le hax?

Who wants free items? ~ ACCOUNT HACKED, please read.
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post Jun 25 2014, 02:24
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Wow.

Trashcat has my condodolences (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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