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post Jun 18 2014, 07:29
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 17 2014, 19:23) *

I think the days of using monsters to get rich rich is over. Maybe just rich.

No one is buying noodles at a certain price either; I see a bunch of them in WTS pages. Ppl should just pop them and sell me the Leg or Peerless Kat Staff; you'll be rich!



The price is just dropping a bit as people are uncertain what the impact of the current patch is on the economy.


If I had a heap of credits, I could buy crystals from the store, sell the packs to players for 90 and rinse and repeat.

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post Jun 18 2014, 07:42
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jun 17 2014, 22:29) *

The price is just dropping a bit as people are uncertain what the impact of the current patch is on the economy.
If I had a heap of credits, I could buy crystals from the store, sell the packs to players for 90 and rinse and repeat.


You'd lose 30k each time.
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post Jun 18 2014, 07:53
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jun 18 2014, 15:29) *

I could buy crystals from the store, sell the packs to players for 90 and rinse and repeat.


Well there's the reason you don't have heaps of credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 18 2014, 08:52
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Wait, so can Absorb negate 2 spells consecutively hitting now?

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38 5 Ichy casts pew pew pew, but is absorbed. You gain 15 Magic Points.
38 4 I Do Not Fear Piercing casts Wind, but is absorbed. You gain 15 Magic Points.
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38 2 You gain the effect Replenishment.
38 1 You use Lesser Mana Potion.

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post Jun 18 2014, 08:53
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 17 2014, 19:53) *

Well there's the reason you don't have heaps of credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Because its multiplicative, if you could sell crystal packs for 90k, with 100m you could take nearly a billion credits out of the economy. Increasing the real value of your remaining credits. trololol.
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:10
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jun 18 2014, 02:53) *

Because its multiplicative, if you could sell crystal packs for 90k, with 100m you could take nearly a billion credits out of the economy. Increasing the real value of your remaining credits. trololol.


With 100m credits, you could buy 10 million crystals. So if you organize them into packs, with 1k of each of the 12 types:

10,000,000/12 = 833333.33333333333333333333333333

So then you need to account for 1000 of each kind per pack...

833333.33333333333333333333333333/1000 = 833.33333333333333333333333333333

So you get 833 complete packs, rounded down.

833*90,000 = 74,970,000

To check, lemme reverse engineer this...

If each pack has 12 kinds of crystals and 1000 of each kind:

12*1000 = 12,000

The price to YOU per pack, brought straight out of the store at 10 credits per crystal:

12,000 * 10 = 120,000

You set 100 million as the arbitrary amount to spend:

120,000 * x = 100,000,000

x = 100,000,000/120,000

x = 833.33333333333333333333333333333

And you'd sell them for 90k each:

833*90,000 = 74,970,000

That's... pretty far from a billion, unless I A) fucked up my math hardcore, or (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) misunderstood your statement. Even then that's assuming enough people bite the bait so that they'd buy packs at a price 10k above what I believe to be the norm (80k)


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post Jun 18 2014, 10:23
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jun 18 2014, 16:53) *

Because its multiplicative, if you could sell crystal packs for 90k, with 100m you could take nearly a billion credits out of the economy. Increasing the real value of your remaining credits. trololol.

You know, "Increasing real value of your remaining credits" also means "Increasing the loss for underselling your crystal" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Also, since crystal pack cost 120k from item shop, you're only taking out 400m with 100m.

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post Jun 18 2014, 10:49
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I think Mr Satire is just trolling everyone. No need to get our collective panties in a bunch.

And the absorb x2 is known. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 18 2014, 11:30
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 18 2014, 18:49) *

And the absorb x2 is known. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I didn't know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

/never use absorb

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post Jun 18 2014, 11:37
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 18 2014, 18:30) *

/never use absorb


/1H too OP
/time to nerf

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post Jun 18 2014, 12:05
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 18 2014, 17:37) *

/1H too OP
/time to nerf

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/mage too OP
/time to nerf
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post Jun 18 2014, 12:15
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 18 2014, 19:37) *

/1H too OP
/time to nerf

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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 18 2014, 20:05) *

/mage too OP
/time to nerf
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/H@H too OP
/time to nerf

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post Jun 18 2014, 12:16
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 17 2014, 22:49) *

I think Mr Satire is just trolling everyone. No need to get our collective panties in a bunch.



Of course.


When prices were 120k shop, 109k WTS it worked better.


Now at 120k and 90k (I haven't seen them actually selling much at the low 80k price) is a factor of 0.75.

1. Lets say 833 for the first lot, sell for 90k returning 75m.
2. Sell again returning 56.25m
3. Sell again
etc etc

Total ~400m removed from the economy. Far less effective then the prices were much closer in the past.
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post Jun 18 2014, 12:18
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 18 2014, 19:15) *

/H@H too OP
/time to nerf

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if no H@H
then no free porn AND no fapping

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post Jun 18 2014, 12:24
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 18 2014, 18:18) *

if no H@H
then no free porn AND no fapping

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/e-hentai too OP
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post Jun 18 2014, 12:50
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I wonder if the Autobuy Scrip will get me banned (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 18 2014, 12:55
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 18 2014, 12:50) *

I wonder if the Autobuy Scrip will get me banned (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


imo, probably not. it's basically an expansion to the "item shop bot" & you'll still need to manually input what you want to buy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

though, i wonder why we can't just type in the quantity like in the "item shop bot" instead we'll hv to use those +/-1, +/-10, +/-100, etc in "item shop".
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post Jun 18 2014, 12:57
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I just buyed enough Vigors to max out the STR of 3 Mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 18 2014, 13:15
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 18 2014, 18:57) *

I just buyed enough Vigors to max out the STR of 3 Mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For 3 elementals?
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post Jun 18 2014, 13:18
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My only Elemental is a guy. No Crystals for him!
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