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Jun 13 2014, 10:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(Ckyc @ Jun 13 2014, 16:45)  [img]http://i.na.cx/9N233.jpg[img] See the 0.8 problem there?
You sure newbie can earn 300k per day? I hardly earn 150k per day. I have got around 40k per days this week. This post has been edited by Colman: Jun 13 2014, 10:52
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Jun 13 2014, 10:53
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Shine-Addict
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 16:51)  You sure newbie can earn 300k per day? I hardly earn 150k per day. I have got around 40k per days this week.
I mean if they can have that a lot, SD will be thinner, but admin have done the different way. Makes it harder.
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Jun 13 2014, 11:05
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Ckyc @ Jun 13 2014, 16:53)  I mean if they can have that a lot, SD will be thinner, but admin have done the different way. Makes it harder.
The only way to make the game more fair is to kill all of the bots. However, it is not possible. As long as bots exist, credits gaining rate do not really matter. It is because bots always earn x10 credit and drops than human players. 10B will see the overall credits and gears drop to nerf everyone. So normal players cannot get either credits nor gears. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I think 10B have some way to find out bots. And should have a suspected list. However, he may not have sufficient evidences to ban them. BTW, what is SD? This post has been edited by Colman: Jun 13 2014, 11:07
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Jun 13 2014, 11:12
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Shine-Addict
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 17:05)  The only way to make the game more fair is to kill all of the bots. However, it is not possible. As long as bots exist, credits gaining rate do not really matter. It is because bots always earn x10 credit and drops than human players. 10B will see the overall credits and gears drop to nerf everyone. So normal players cannot get either credits nor gears. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I think 10B have some way to find out bots. And should have a suspected list. However, he may not have sufficient evidences to ban them. BTW, what is SD? standard deviation of players' earnings, high level players earn more in patch 0.8. Gap between everyone incomes radio.
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Jun 13 2014, 11:19
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treesloth
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 6-January 13

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 13 2014, 12:47)  less credit in the market + less grinding => less demand for hath perk => Hath price drops.
A hath/GP sink will benefit H@H, whereas a credit sink will hurt them
yeah, I know how it works. If the cost of reducing inflation results in a drop in hath value, then so be it. That was expected anyway. QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 18:05)  As long as bots exist,...
Aren't bots just people who have nothing to do but play 24/7? And if they drop good gears and sell them, and their crystals, I don't see a problem... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 13 2014, 11:26
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Colman
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 13 2014, 17:19)  Aren't bots just people who have nothing to do but play 24/7? And if they drop good gears and sell them, and their crystals, I don't see a problem... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For bots, I mean the (semi) automation program. Perhaps they cannot be fully auto due to the pony (in fact I doubt it). It is still rather possible to allow a single person to monitor 10+ bots at the same time. And bots are responsible to the nerfing on credits gain and drop quality. The nearest example is 10B know the overall ratio of Mag:Exq is 1:5. However, what the ratio for you guys? Similar? much lower? You know it. This post has been edited by Colman: Jun 13 2014, 11:30
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Jun 13 2014, 11:28
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Owyn
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 13:05)  The only way to make the game more fair is to kill all of the bots. However, it is not possible. As long as bots exist, credits gaining rate do not really matter. It is because bots always earn x10 credit and drops than human players. 10B will see the overall credits and gears drop to nerf everyone. So normal players cannot get either credits nor gears. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I think 10B have some way to find out bots. And should have a suspected list. However, he may not have sufficient evidences to ban them. BTW, what is SD? really, what bots? aren't ponies protecting us? +why would people bot on a game attached to hentai gallery website as an addition, and ban in it would take away the hentai?
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Jun 13 2014, 11:30
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Colman
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jun 13 2014, 17:28)  really, what bots? aren't ponies protecting us? +why would people bot on a game attached to hentai gallery website as an addition, and ban in it would take away the hentai?
Someone selling credits for cash somewhere (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) search on the internet.
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Jun 13 2014, 11:39
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treesloth
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 18:26)  The nearest example is 10B know the overall ratio of Mag:Exq is 1:5. However, what the ratio for you guys? Similar? much lower? You know it.
I have no idea, I don't play enough anymore. If I do play, I rely on arena clear bonuses. QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 18:30)  Someone selling credits for cash somewhere (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) search on the internet. My guess is that these bots you are referring to are prisoners in China playing 24/7, so the Commies in power can profit from their hard labor..... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 13 2014, 11:46
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Colman
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 13 2014, 17:39)  I have no idea, I don't play enough anymore. If I do play, I rely on arena clear bonuses. My guess is that these bots you are referring to are prisoners in China playing 24/7, so the Commies in power can profit from their hard labor..... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) People in power interested in a few thousands dollars? I think they use 0.1 billion (億) as unit. Just force the prisoners to go mining. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Colman: Jun 13 2014, 11:53
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Jun 13 2014, 11:55
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ariosty
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jun 13 2014, 03:28)  really, what bots? aren't ponies protecting us? +why would people bot on a game attached to hentai gallery website as an addition, and ban in it would take away the hentai?
nope pony cannot keep bots away
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Jun 13 2014, 13:11
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LostLogia4
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jun 13 2014, 09:22)  The inherent problem is that a lot of the hardcore players are also H@Her. You nerfed the rich's gameplay too much, and the H@H will be pissed. 10B simply can't go around killing off the hands that feed. that's like the universal rule (which I think more people follow than even the Golden Rules). Did you even read my entire comment or are you just biased towards my not-so-serious-comment on the introduction for rare mats for bandwagon equips? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Sure, many of the riches are professional players (apart from the paid player definition), but I'm pretty sure that they can live with buying an extra 5 bindings to fully forge their weapons anyways. If they have the resources to buy 100 bindings of slaugther/destructions to fully forge their weapons sooner or later, why in the world did they need the binding-free forgings anyway? A player below Level 300 would have to be really lucky to get a legendary weapon by any means, even if it's a lousy one really. QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 13 2014, 10:26)  Pretty sure H@H'ers don't care that much about repair costs. What we care about is the value of hath. My thoughts exactly. We would've cared if it were as oppressive as the one during the patching day, but not so much anymore. H@H'ers would be concerned about the value of hath more because, they have to pay just to host these, either the electric bills or the server hosting invoices; basically, these Haths are mass produced for real money, so naturally they can't be exchanged for credits so cheaply really. QUOTE(danixxx @ Jun 13 2014, 14:59)  ... wat? Meh, the battlefield right here shouldn't be too much of a trouble for our Archmage here either way.
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Jun 13 2014, 13:34
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Hahhaa
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Lucky or not, this game doesn't have PVP. Otherwise, people will be more obsess with high end gears. Pretty sure real money trading and credits mining bots will comes like plague. If real moneys involve, those puny ponies wont able to do much. Right now, bots probable come from script kiddie with too much electricity to waste. Better use that for H@H. More beneficial to H community (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I'm guessing H@H is not rewarding enough right now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jun 13 2014, 13:45
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gc00018
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'Anyone play more than me is a bot! Anyone earn more than me is a bot! Anyone who loot better equipment than me is bot! So send them to the moon!' Now I will become the richest one~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Quite reasonable~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) Tenb has tried to deal with credits sink with his way, we should at least give he sometime to see if the problem solved. Not ask he to do this to do that without data\evidence\or even a little time to see if current way fails. For example, If after 1-3 month the market becomes stable and auction price reduces,than what's the point of botting is popular and ruinning market? I still hold a postitive view toward this patch. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by gc00018: Jun 13 2014, 13:47
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Jun 13 2014, 14:02
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Colman @ Jun 13 2014, 11:05)  As long as bots exist, credits gaining rate do not really matter. It is because bots always earn x10 credit and drops than human players. 10B will see the overall credits and gears drop to nerf everyone. So normal players cannot get either credits nor gears. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) You know nothing, Jon Snow.
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Jun 13 2014, 14:27
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Shine-Addict
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 13 2014, 20:02)  You know nothing, Jon Snow.
hodor?
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Jun 13 2014, 14:59
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Ichy
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,061
Joined: 19-February 09

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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jun 13 2014, 06:24)  imo, the new salvage system really hurts the low lvl players (ie 0 to 300lvl)
I hope you realize how Noob friendly HV has become over the years. When I was new i had no clue how the fuck i am supposed to that 15 Rounds Arena with a MBP at the end... on Normal. (yeah heavy Armor was death Sentence back then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) And tough choice was I i buy that Evade Silk for 3000 Credits or the slightly better one for 7000 Credits. No Monster lab, no Forge, no cheap Credit gains, only a few Arenas, Grindfest will give you only 2000 Credits a day, limit to 10 IW's/day. No IWBTH or PFUDOR for easy level up. Oh and when hito did all Arenas and RoB on the highest Setting everyone came in an patted his shoulder because it was indeed an epic deed. Now everyone can do that. This post has been edited by Ichy: Jun 13 2014, 15:02
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Jun 13 2014, 15:07
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AntiGod
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 13 2014, 08:59)  -nostalgia-
We're just trying to spread some more luvin to the existing new players of HV, all the while trying to entice more to join in on tenb's pet project.
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