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Well, that is indeed some quick and dirty patch. Hope I don't get banned for my personal opinion, but what is the point here? All about reducing the credits gained as far as I see.

Repairs:
Why cant I just have a simple "Repair all" button like in all other games I prefer to play? Is it because the system introduced is quite too complex for that? Even in HP/MP/SP can be refreshed by "refresh all". Making it a bit more transparent for using Low vs High gear. Just running around in EXQ MAX gear with a fine ETH seems to be the most cost efficient way here. So I hope to snipe some 4 PAB EXQ gear to replace my MAGs. Damn me, but I even thought about getting NAKED to do just the first two arena challenges on easy diff just to have a certain drop chance^^ (well, that even works^^)

Cash Cow Ambush:
You will not hurt the people with billion credits here. You do not motivate people to play when you sicken them with high costs for playing their 1k rounds a day without proper "satisfaction" (credits, drops, you name it). To keep your Catgirls and Donators happy, do what every pay site does:
- decrease the number monster slots for non-gold-stars to 10
- increase monster hunger by 100%
- offer a shop to Donators only having a decent price tag on every stuff you can think about, but make it bound so it can not be sold
- reduce ANY credits given at the Dawn event to -0- exept for Donators, but be careful not to spill out zillions of credits a day (inflation)
- reduce HATH generating items (cookies, gems, etc) active time to -1- year

Parte et rege
So as far as I see there are already a few groups of players here:
a. Casual
b. Professional
c. Donators (both a. and b.)
You do not to need listen to group a, since they do not generate cash or bits for anything. Group b may considers to pay one day, so keep those folks happy. Group c pushes their lobby in their own sub-forum, which is a must to read.
Keeping group b happy is the utmost concern, since they may are the next Donators. Question yourself if you hit the mark with that patch.

Black Friday Patch aka HV 1.0.0
Reducing cash may be done by a simple thing: make it obsolete ^^ Form a different one, name it e.g. Gold and let everything be paid in the new currency. Make a shop for Donators where they can exchange existing credits to Gold until a given date. Restart for all players except for donators. Freeze assets by making them bound to the player. New drops may then be unbound again. Feel free to make currencies obsolete anytime you see a need for it.

I am just a Casual player. With that patch I will be even more casual, since I do not want to pay 25k a day for repairs. That is more than the arenas I play generate.

Are you the Guy Invited by Tencent?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Cash Cow Ambush:
You will not hurt the people with billion credits here. You do not motivate people to play when you sicken them with high costs for playing their 1k rounds a day without proper "satisfaction" (credits, drops, you name it). To keep your Catgirls and Donators happy, do what every pay site does:
- decrease the number monster slots for non-gold-stars to 10
- increase monster hunger by 100%
- offer a shop to Donators only having a decent price tag on every stuff you can think about, but make it bound so it can not be sold
- reduce ANY credits given at the Dawn event to -0- exept for Donators, but be careful not to spill out zillions of credits a day (inflation)
- reduce HATH generating items (cookies, gems, etc) active time to -1- year

Black Friday Patch aka HV 1.0.0
Reducing cash may be done by a simple thing: make it obsolete ^^ Form a different one, name it e.g. Gold and let everything be paid in the new currency. Make a shop for Donators where they can exchange existing credits to Gold until a given date. Restart for all players except for donators. Freeze assets by making them bound to the player. New drops may then be unbound again. Feel free to make currencies obsolete anytime you see a need for it.

Official Peerless Auction: accept $100 as 10 million credits

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/HgGT091.jpg)Sounds cool, looking forward to that (as a donator)

now let's make it even darker: resetting ability is only free for donators

not dark enuff

Obtaining anything above magnificent only available to donators

No XP gain unless you're a LVL7 Catgirl.

Please implement this next patch.

Balancing incomes seems too be an impossible task, due to the fact that "money makes more money".The money Gap between new and old players can never be filled in, but as my personal option, there is no need to do so.

Our admin imagine HV as a real world, people get their money according to their age(level), and provide free medical care(Repair) to the poor .... In a bad way, comes with new item which provide the same usage as before, increasing the game's difficulty yet no fun is added.

To solving the problems as I mentioned above, we need to modify many systems.

Fairness - Internet speed and ping
Make each battle be contained in a file , submit it after one round, Limit it to 5s per round at minimum, so bad connection impacts less.

For fun
Potions now drops less at higher level, make new players sell them to high level players, helps shrinking the credit SD.

Mages now got a new spell - Void walker, 50% of monster damages reduced. (mana costs = 5%, 30 rounds)

Warriors now got a new spell - Time blender, attack 5 Random targets at one time. (mana costs = 5%, 30 rounds) (count as 5 turns)

New game mode added - 30 monster at one turn, +2% stat to each monster each round, allow you to take over 2 of your friends hero to battle when they are not in battle, those hero gain 30% exp and drops. Arrange them into "front","middle","back".

Lottery now uses "secret token" as entry token. Secret token have a drop rate of 1/1000 and cannot be traded.


New battle mode added - hellfest
Hellfest have a fixed difficulty of x50, drops x0.5 Credits and equipment only. Allowing players to obtain peerless item 100x more often.

Pony racer is introduced, its a 2d game with a complex math and IQ questions in it, the fastest person who answered all questions win the game, costs one pony figure per time for entry.

Weapon and Armor now contains its birth of date and a sign which can be edited by the dropper, can be edited for once.

PS I must be so boring. salute to game creator, you have made a master piece already.

...Some epic idea...

+1

P.S. - Never gonna happen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by retra: Jun 11 2014, 11:10

Fairness

P.S. - Never gonna happen. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Fixed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

not dark enuff

Obtaining anything above magnificent only available to donators

Harder! Playing HV only available for donators - that's a real hell.

Harder! Playing HV only available for donators - that's a real hell.

You guys aren't thinking tough enough.

Harder: Every Dawn gives you Auto-Ban (other than the donation page). Donating 1-Bitcoin lifts the Ban until the next Dawn. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

As long as it would take you to hit 400.

doesn't seem like it, I still get a level or few without repairs, so it's like lvl 500 and above (if ever lifted) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Are you the Guy Invited by Tencent?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Nope, I stick around here since a few years

Official Peerless Auction: accept $100 as 10 million credits

Also a plausible way of doing things. But keep in mind even market-leading game studios (I think they are called something like a snow storm) cancelled their real money auction house on a title called something like "Devil III".
So maybe IF you can convert BITCOIN, LiteCoin, YouNameIt to bound items at the "Shmuck Corner Shop" with discounts for every Golden Star you have (say 5% per) without getting this added to your donations done so far, Mr.T's BTC wallet should become too thick to handle. You will get XP easier but have more upkeep costs.

As mentioned I am a casual player so I maybe miss the point of some patches done, because I do not play every possible style/class. I like to analyze things and try to catch the main idea behind a patch. This patch offers a repair system - even if it may be in early RC state - and reduces income of any sort as main idea.

So why bother? Because I see vast more potential ways (to generate real cash, to satisfy costumers and to feed the poor) without cutting short any player income at this rate - some just play to exchange all assets for GPs. Example: You want a peerless set? Go to Shmuck's Corner: To obtain a peerless set you may have to spend 10 to 20 bucks for every slot - do not forget to whine and whimper about the upkeep costs in every post you do - but hey, you deserve it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Hell, even I would spend 20 bucks for a 2H 30% stun PEER ETH Mace of Slaughter 800+ durability. But let the RNG eat my shorts, Shmuck's Corner is still an idea...

I reckon the current business model of HV is F2W(Free-to-whine) ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jun 11 2014, 13:03

I reckon the current business model of HV is F2W(Free-to-whine) ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Nope. It's C2W (Continue-to-Whine). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

hummm, the repair cost now is too low to deal with those crystal farmers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Quite sure it's based on numbers in the back end.

Indeed. I mean, only a few rich players have like, what? 40 Megacredits to throw around in the auction and all of us were shot at our veins.

hummm, the repair cost now is too low to deal with those crystal farmers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Too low a tax credit sink and it would be ineffective. Too high a tax and the rich players would simply quit altogether, much like in the real world.

Official Peerless Auction: accept $100 as 10 million credits

Isn't selling online game equipments for RL money liable to the money service business "regulatory pain" as well?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Jun 11 2014, 17:25

hummm, the repair cost now is too low to deal with those crystal farmers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

What's the point of farming crystals if nobody wants to buy them?

PFest farmer are still more profitable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

What's the point of farming crystals if nobody wants to buy them?

PFest farmer are still more profitable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It seem I cannot past the round 300 in PFest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

What's the point of farming crystals if nobody wants to buy them?

PFest farmer are still more profitable (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Second this.
As you all know, there's nowhere to continuously battle except GF after clearing SG and high arenas.
So I'm running IWBTHfest these days not for crystal itself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

sorry, doublepost

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Jun 11 2014, 17:05

What's the point of farming crystals if nobody wants to buy them?

time to buy crystal packs at 50k each (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)