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May 18 2010, 01:32
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uvauva2
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 17 2010, 19:11)  How much you trained AP?
Oh, I forgot AP in my discussion. My AP only costs around 9K. But I rather think that the moment the cost of AP exceeds that of an artifact it ceases to be cost effective. I was basically talking about scavenger, luck of the draw, quartermaster and archeologist. This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 18 2010, 01:33
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May 18 2010, 01:38
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QUOTE(uvauva2 @ May 17 2010, 16:32)  Oh, I forgot AP in my discussion. My AP only costs around 9K. But I rather think that the moment the cost of AP exceeds that of an artifact it ceases to be cost effective.
I'm not sure this is true, at least from an AP perspective. 9,000C base cost + 3000C loss on Hath + 9000C loss on Stat bonus= 21,000C effective cost per artifact AP.
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May 18 2010, 01:51
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 18 2010, 00:38)  I'm not sure this is true, at least from an AP perspective. 9,000C base cost + 3000C loss on Hath + 9000C loss on Stat bonus= 21,000C effective cost per artifact AP.
I'm with you, that's why I stopped to get more at level 50 (21.235C) This post has been edited by cmdct: May 18 2010, 01:52
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May 18 2010, 01:57
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uvauva2
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 17 2010, 19:38)  I'm not sure this is true, at least from an AP perspective. 9,000C base cost + 3000C loss on Hath + 9000C loss on Stat bonus= 21,000C effective cost per artifact AP.
If you view AP as the only goal that would be of course correct. But from the perspective that the value of a stat increase is about the same as an AP then I think it's reasonable to stop AP training at 9K, particularly as I do not yet win tons of creds (so that the problem of deciding between doing the training and waiting for someone to sell an artifact does not pose itself). Which reminds me of a related question, which maybe you can answer, since I think you mentioned at some point you had almost all the stat increases. When you have all the stat increases do artifacts start giving 50/50 for AP and hath? This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 18 2010, 01:59
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May 18 2010, 02:06
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QUOTE(uvauva2 @ May 17 2010, 16:57)  But from the perspective that the value of a stat increase is about the same as an AP then I think it's reasonable to stop AP training at 9K
But, at your level stat increases are no where near being equal in value to AP boosts. I don't even think those stat bonuses are useful. The only reason I want them is to say I have them all. QUOTE(uvauva2 @ May 17 2010, 16:57)  Which reminds me of a related question, which maybe you can answer, since I think you mentioned at some point you had almost all the stat increases. When you have them all do artifacts start giving 50/50 for AP and hath?
I think so.
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May 18 2010, 10:50
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 18 2010, 01:06)  But, at your level stat increases are no where near being equal in value to AP boosts. I don't even think those stat bonuses are useful. The only reason I want them is to say I have them all.
Agreed, I already reached half way, and I still don't see any difference from before, plus even before, I could do the same things that a player with the hath auras do, despite I won't have them.
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May 18 2010, 14:34
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QUOTE(HybridGuardian @ May 18 2010, 06:28)  Only 386 positive K, till sainthood! Does anyone feels like making me a saint today? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Well, I tried, but Karmic Exhaustion just stepped in and ruined my day.
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May 18 2010, 15:00
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QUOTE(HybridGuardian @ May 18 2010, 20:28)  Only 386 positive K, till sainthood! Does anyone feels like making me a saint today? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I'll give you some tomorrow... err morning for you, if you aren't already one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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May 18 2010, 15:52
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(HybridGuardian @ May 18 2010, 07:28)  Only 386 positive K, till sainthood! Does anyone feels like making me a saint today? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Nope.
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May 18 2010, 19:37
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Thanks a bunch guys! Sainthood!!!
I <3 you all!
This post has been edited by HybridGuardian: May 18 2010, 20:11
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May 19 2010, 01:06
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Msgr. Radixius
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KARMAS! Spoiler text - Highlight to read... lolexperiments This post has been edited by radixius: May 19 2010, 01:06
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May 19 2010, 01:15
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Honeycat
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Wow, Rad's karma whoring? That's a...wait.
You know like when you're playing a song for someone on your guitar and you mess up? *strum strum* (then you fuck up) "wait...." *strum strum* "wait..."
This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: May 19 2010, 01:15
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May 19 2010, 01:17
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Msgr. Radixius
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To make that applicable, you can drop the "for someone" in that sentence.
For me, anyway :3
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May 19 2010, 01:19
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Honeycat
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FIRST ACT KARMAS!
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May 19 2010, 01:21
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Msgr. Radixius
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First Act surprisingly makes a decent looking electric.
The actual hardware, on the other hand...
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May 19 2010, 01:55
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Honeycat
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May 19 2010, 02:40
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gamagaeru
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Fender Starcaster is better then First Act.... they both suck tho
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May 19 2010, 02:45
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QUOTE(gamagaeru @ May 18 2010, 20:40)  Fender Starcaster is better then First Act.... they both suck tho
what are you talking about? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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