Just so you guys know that I am indeed working on the K- thread, here is a preview of the first post. Suggestions are welcome.There are many problems with the E-Hentai karma system. I'm not going to bother listing them all because that would take too long and I would probably forget a number of them.
Of the numerous problems, there are only a few which any individual user has the power to fix. The biggest and most important of these is that is that members are tacitly forbidden to imbue other members with negative karma. This fix to this is simple: Give people more negative karma. (If you don't believe that members are forbidden to K- others, I recall seeing one prominent member get K-'ed by another because that member was being an ass by K-'ing a third member. You can probably
find that exchange in the Karma comment thread if you care...)
I can, for no reason, K+ any random member and reasonably expect a K+ in return, but I'm not allowed to K- someone who acts like a dick? There is something seriously wrong with that.
The purpose of this thread is to rectify this problem. As the karma system should be a reflection of the quality of a poster, if we can direct the collected wrath of those who care at those who deserve it, then maybe the red karma they collect can somewhat offset the masses of green karma that a member is bound to accumulate or has already accumulated.
Summary: Bad posters deserve big red numbers. Our job is to give it to them.Of course such a thread needs guidelines.
Now, I would argue that a poster needs no objective reason to K- another, but for the sake of avoiding undue criticism, it makes sense for THIS thread to require posters to have a tangible reason.
ALL NEGATIVE KARMA FROM THIS THREAD MUST BE AUTHORED. i.e. NO ANONYMOUS K-'ING.Now, what I propose is not an exhaustive list of possible reasons and is liable to be changed due to feedback, but
here is what I think deserves negative karma:1)
Spamming the forums- There are many definitions of this, but I would say if someone is one of the top-5 daily posters and has said nothing of value, that is spamming the forums. (
D.D.D. Is a perfect example) If someone has started multiple useless threads in sub-forums designed to be useful such as HV-Beta forum (
Thanos008 comes to mind), then they are spamming the forums. If someone's posts are so obviously an attempt to wrack up posts so as to increase their daily EXP gain, that is spamming (We can argue whether people deserve K- for simply posting in Spamhaus later. I meant that in other sections of the forum)
2)
A single offensive, or annoying post- As opposed to spamming which might not include any single post that someone might find objectionable but that no one also considers helpful or worthwhile. This can basically be summed up as anything jackass-ish or retarded. Note: Rob and Rad get a free pass in regards to this, at least from this thread. K- them on your own if you want. Why? I feel like it, I find them amusing, and I'm the one who started this thread so I get to make the rules.
3)
Complaining about having been K-'ed- Take your Negative Karma like a man. You probably deserved it. If you did not, then you preemptively deserved it for being willing to complain about it afterward. This involves somewhat of a judgment call as to what constitutes complaining. Posting a K- comment in the Karma comment thread without any over the top complaint does not count. Starting a thread in general chat about being K-'ed does. Note: I wanted to include a link to Negimafan's thread, but is seems to have disappeared...
THIS INCLUDES K-'ING SOMEONE IN RETALIATION FOR BEING K-'ED. That someone thinks you are a jackass is not a valid reason to think the other person is a jackass.
4)
Pestering a user to know why they K-'ed you- I'm thinking of Coco here. I k-'ed her and she messaged me a dozen times wanting to know the reason. I did have some fun messing with her, but I was in a good mood that day. On another day I might have been annoyed. As someone has the choice to post here, that person can decide to not post if they are in fact amused by said messages.
5)
Giving K+ to a user to “make up for” the K- of another user- This falls under the “Don't encourage jackasses to be jackasses” rule.
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Taking this site, these forums, or the H-Verse too seriously- Doing so makes the site less enjoyable for other people.
7)
Duping, Uploading, and Expunging Related Infractions- I swear to God, people better not use this thread to settle vendettas in regards to dupes and expunges. That means don't post prominent members for this reason. What I mean, is if someone uploads a number of dupes, lots of galleries of questionable value, or wrongfully expunges a gallery, then they deserve K-. Now, most dupers don't use the forums, so maybe this will not effect them, but I thought it best to include it for completeness sake.
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Abusing this thread- This includes faking a reason to K- another, using this thread as a means to wage vendettas, or anything else that is generally sketchy that I have not thought of.