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I'm trying to get more GP for the average guy to spend in the lottery

Methinks the average guy doesn't care all that much about the lottery.

about the "h@h runners get so much money they can wipe their ass with credits and completely dominate the lottery and grinders can never catch up" argument:

i have 1 h@h slot that runs 24 hours a day and i'm somewhere around #550 in the toplists. it makes about 5 hath and 10-15kGP a day, which translates to about 50k a day.

if you cannot make 50k a day playing HV, you're doing something wrong.

if you're poor or have a bad connection and want to run h@h, [cheapseedboxes.com] a cheap but effective seedbox can be bought for 10 to 20 USD a month, or roughly the cost of a case of cheap beer.

tl;dr stop being lazy. stop being cheap. stop being bitches.

Methinks the average guy doesn't care all that much about the lottery.

I'd have to agree with this, sadly to say.

I personally only participate in the lottery out of the meh, might as well, but I'm sure there are people who don't even bother.


And I'm sorry that I can't make 50k a day playing HV :S Well, I probably could on my free days, but if I'm free on that day, I'm probably hibernating for most of the day to conserve energy.

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Apr 3 2014, 23:07

Methinks the average guy doesn't care all that much about the lottery.

We have a lottery? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

We have a lottery? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

binglo you're not an average EH guy, you can forget about the lottery (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

swap the 5th and grand prizes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I already won a crap instead of Chaso token. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

If you don't like it, you could always just give it to me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Fine, fine. Paying for shit is actually a bigger contribution than uploading the shit that people actually came to the site for.

Um... without people paying for the servers, there wouldn't be a site for people to come to...

I have absolutely zero complaints about people getting rewarded for paying to keep this place going.

So there will be no HV Easter 2014? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

No eggs for you!

How many uploaders do you think are the actual scanners?

Actually more than you think. Thanks to this site I know, like, 10+ guys who buy and scan doujins (not necessarily while living in Japan, mind it). And I'm not even talking about some huge superpopular H-books.

about the "h@h runners get so much money they can wipe their ass with credits and completely dominate the lottery and grinders can never catch up" argument:

i have 1 h@h slot that runs 24 hours a day and i'm somewhere around #550 in the toplists. it makes about 5 hath and 10-15kGP a day, which translates to about 50k a day.

if you cannot make 50k a day playing HV, you're doing something wrong.

Okay, I can make 50k a day now, but remember that when I was a low-level newbie earning only 1-2k a day, you're making 50k a day, when I'm a lvl.100 doing 10-20k a day, you're doing 50k a day. The advantages adds up you know.

I'm not trying to dispute that H@Hers are important, however, we must remember that HV is a GAME too, it needs a balanced economy.

I honestly don't care how much the next guy earns or if he has a peerless bullshit, but it he starts inflating the prices of stuff I need, then I care.

If you don't want to reduce H@H benefits, then I say reduce the PvP factor by:

- Special bazaar selling a set of non-tradable player level relevant gear, selection refreshes every 2 days.
- Said bazaar also sells unlimited forge materials, purchase limited to 3 pieces daily.
- I still support the MM income tax, additional credit sink for the rich I say.

Thus, the only reason you go to the forums is because you're rich a want to buy more than offered. This also greatly reduces inflation.

About the GP:

H@Hers contribute to the site, that much is not being questioned, but so do the uploaders, taggers and reviewers.

Also, without them, having servers means nothing and vice versa. Moreover these people put in time and effort and not just flip a switch and be done with it.

Sure you could say this might not care about the money, but this isn't about money to buy things but money as a token to show the site's recognition and compensation for their work.

Therefore, we should reward them with rates of hath and GP that better reflects their contribution to the site.

Simple question though:

Financially, is e-hentai in the red, breaking even, or in the profit?

If it is in the red, then Tenboro has more than enough reason to focus on the people reducing his costs.

If it is breaking even, then Tenboro has no real reason to change the power balance (so to speak).

If it it is in the profitable sector, then yes, Tenboro should consider in the uploaders as a little more valuable.


But that is the question right? Which one is it? And how much so it in that section?

This post has been edited by MikukoAya: Apr 4 2014, 08:37

I honestly don't care how much the next guy earns or if he has a peerless bullshit, but it he starts inflating the prices of stuff I need, then I care.

The thing is, those same guys are supplying 90% of the the exq/mag-graded gears you are wearing. And if the stuffs you need aren't Legendary, then they won't bother competing with you on price. You're actually more likely to compete bids with non-donating grinders like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 4 2014, 10:22

- I still support the MM income tax, additional credit sink for the rich I say.

Might not help. They could pass the cost to the MM recipients. I imagined players will start adding new rules in their shop, something like: "Each equipment/item price is subject to additional xxx Credits/xx% Surcharge for MM Tax" or simply raise the price. Aren't Tax = higher price?

And how do you want Tenb to tax the rich? Is it possible for Tenb to check which account has millions of Credits and which is not?

Okay, I can make 50k a day now, but remember that when I was a low-level newbie

You're STILL a low-level newb. Other non-contributing players can make 500k a day. Why can't you?

But that is the question right? Which one is it? And how much so it in that section?

Frankly, you don't have the right to ask these questions. It's not your website. You don't put anything into it. You didn't spend time coding, or your own hard-earned money for servers. So what gives you the right to ask Tenboro how much he makes and what he should do?

I don't see gold stars next your names. I don't see you uploading or H@H'ing.

What annoys me is that you guys don't do squat and you're complaining about income level. Why don't you try uploading something? You will see that uploading is WAY more GP profitable than H@H. And I mean upload something people want to fap to. I am top5 H@H and I don't have enough GP to even make an impact in the lottery every day. So yeah, you don't see me playing.

You guys are jealous of StonyCat, but he's got 10 gold stars next to his name. He doesn't upload because he's probably busy working to pay off all his H@H servers. He's been #1 for the longest time, even before you joined the site.

So you have TWO options to be successful in this game:
Either
1. Sit at home no-lifing, GRINDing until you fingers fall off.
2. Get off your ass and get a job. Use your money to buy doujins/whatever to upload or buy some servers. Then come back and GRIND till your fingers hurt.

Look at GC, vriska, yakamoz moon, 千石 撫子, wannaf, midnightpass, others >400. All they do is grind, and they're rich. You don't, and you're not. You probably don't even have your trainings maxed, so you just drop superiors. Figure out for yourself why they're rich. I'm not going to explain everything to you.

I don't want to sound like a dick, but if you don't contribute in any meaningful way, you don't have the right to even MAKE assumptions about GP/hath income.


Take a look at what Tenboro has to pay for to run this site:
[www.leaseweb.com] http://www.leaseweb.com/en/dedicated-servers/10-gbps-servers

Can you pay for these servers? Say hmm... >15 of them per month? No? Then shut up.

This post has been edited by treesloth16: Apr 4 2014, 12:21

Is it just a case of people doing it wrong?

Uploading and fulfilling bounties, upload and translation for example = millions of GP

Grinding and running shops and auctions = millions of GP

Look at GC, vriska, yakamoz moon, 千石 撫子, wannaf, others >400. All they do is grind, and they're rich. You don't, and you're not. You probably don't even have your trainings maxed, so you just drop superiors. Figure out for yourself why they're rich. I'm not going to explain everything to you.

For lvling up speed issue:

Try to play only 23 stamina with EXP train MaxLv/gold star/80+ stamina in 1 day
(from DXD,ED,EOD and below until spent 23 stamina)
Other time you can just play encounter

You can find that you are fast lvling up too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
(For your doubt,I only have Thinking Cap exp hath perk )
I'm not rich as GC/irrin/rich moon/wanaaf because anime and game is more fun now ,and I'm tired cuz what I grind only bazaar item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

That 3rd prize looks more like 5th prize.

Can't accept more for this

This post has been edited by 千石 撫子: Apr 4 2014, 12:36

Probably 5 scanners, and 5 rippers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

C'mon work with me here, I'm trying to get more GP for the average guy to spend in the lottery and nobody wants to support my side. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I support the idea that giving more GP or even credit/hath to uploader. However, I have no idea about how much more award should give them.
BTW, it seems what I like (and uploaded) is not popular.

This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 4 2014, 14:09

Donation server slots are the easiest thing ever, but then I have some disposable income and enjoy being a part of the community at large so it makes sense for me to drop a couple bills a month to better my time here.

EDIT: ...and to help Tenboro afford a better class of canned food. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by dnbdave: Apr 4 2014, 14:35

Financially, is e-hentai in the red, breaking even, or in the profit?

Red since day 1 AFAIK.

So gc won both lottery chaos prizes...oh happy days.

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I'm not trying to dispute that H@Hers are important, however, we must remember that HV is a GAME too, it needs a balanced economy.

I honestly don't care how much the next guy earns or if he has a peerless bullshit, but it he starts inflating the prices of stuff I need, then I care.

the only things getting more expensive are the top of the line magnificents and legendaries along with the materials to forge them, simply because people want certain stats in certain places and won't settle for less. give it enough time and people will be willing to sell their equips for less just to get rid of them.
more legendaries and peerless = more legendaries that are seen as not that great so they drop in price = more worthless but still useful mags and exquisites = more bazaar food superiors and below

If you don't want to reduce H@H benefits, then I say reduce the PvP factor by:

- Special bazaar selling a set of non-tradable player level relevant gear, selection refreshes every 2 days.
- Said bazaar also sells unlimited forge materials, purchase limited to 3 pieces daily.
- I still support the MM income tax, additional credit sink for the rich I say.

Thus, the only reason you go to the forums is because you're rich a want to buy more than offered. This also greatly reduces inflation.

making the bazaar generate more stuff that you can technically get for free by grinding(create monsters, feed crystals, get mats, repeat) and equips relevant to your level seems kinda pointless and would only encourage people to use bots to buy up everything before you could. your earning potential(not actual amount earned mind you) gets higher as you level up, so you'll end up here eventually whether you like it or not.

and the whole tax thing is bogus. if there were really that many credits in the system Tenboro would've figured out a way for people to spend them by now

H@Hers contribute to the site, that much is not being questioned, but so do the uploaders, taggers and reviewers.

Also, without them, having servers means nothing and vice versa. Moreover these people put in time and effort and not just flip a switch and be done with it.

Sure you could say this might not care about the money, but this isn't about money to buy things but money as a token to show the site's recognition and compensation for their work.

Therefore, we should reward them with rates of hath and GP that better reflects their contribution to the site.

i actually can't comment on this since i have no idea how much is earned from uploading galleries nor the effort it takes to find said galleries.
if all they're doing is lurking TPB/Usenet/etc. for galleries that already exist to upload here then they're probably getting exactly what they deserve.
if they're actually going out to random comic cons to buy doujins, scanning them, and uploading them then they probably should get way more since you need real money and effort to do that

This post has been edited by something: Apr 4 2014, 20:42