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let me ask you one question: if buying from other players is cheating, why did you bid in auctions?

"let me ask you one question" - let

"if buying from other players is cheating" - why u think so?
you have not been taught not to take phrases out of context?

"using only droped/bazaar gear before L282 otherwise it is cheating" ^^
words in my signature is a mockery of those who blames equipment while having the better gear can not do what is possible to do and players do with the worst pieces(for example, those who can not pass PF RE vs 10 with level 170+ using Mag/Exq) and it is not necessary at least for level 250-, and this is my personal decision to maintain game balance and my interest in the game which does not concern you

"why did you bid in auctions?" - it is provided by game balance(unlike forced by players CheatingShop)
and if u dont see the difference between level 304 First Exq auction and level 30 Free Leg - i can not help u.

"why did you bid in auctions?" - it is provided by game balance(unlike forced by players CheatingShop)
and if u dont see the difference between level 304 First Exq auction and level 30 Free Leg - i can not help u.

i can see it very well, thanks.
well, at least you have stopped to
write drawing trees, good start point.
i take note of your suggestions, it
will be really useful, thank you.

he's one of those asshats honorable players who thinks you should only use bazaar/dropped gear before a certain level. it used to be 300, but he changed it at some point for some reason. probably because he realized making the game harder than it needs to be to maintain a sense of honor is as pointless as taking classes without buying books because the school didn't give them to you.

whatever, cheating is difficult to define afterall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 22:41

People can play in whatever way they want to, but calling those who haven't broken any site rules as 'cheater' is just forcing his own will on others. If anyone feels those players are cheating, they should send a PM to Tenboro stating why you think they're cheating.

tl:dr Free shop is legit, STFU.

People can play in whatever way they want to, but calling those who haven't broken any site rules as 'cheater' is just forcing his own will on others. If anyone feels those players are cheating, they should send a PM to Tenboro stating why you think they're cheating.

tl:dr Free shop is legit, STFU.

god's emissary have spoken! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
only an emoticon for you though...

btw, one of the names i sent you via PM was an error of ours, did you read it in the other topic?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 22:52

Now what would happen if I donated a Peerless Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer, I wonder?

Now what would happen if I donated a Peerless Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer, I wonder?

i would think you're wasting your money not to say worse (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

seriously, your item will be used as prize for one of the next lotteries and you would be awarded with 500 tickets for the lottery, instead of auctioning it and earning a few millions at least.
peerless is the only class we don't gift, we'd prefer to use it in an echonomical way.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 23:15

I'm reposting my suggestion here to either stop giving items to gold stars or at least severely restrict what they can ask for. I don't have anything against them but it seems like their passive income places them in a much better position to buy their own gear as compared to the typical newbie who doesn't have quite as much free income coming in, i.e. the actual target audience of the free shop.

In the free shop WTS topic, brewdonkey mentioned something about gold stars paying the bills around here - yeah, they do, and they deserve the perks they get for it, but they shouldn't be fighting with newbies for the same free items they (gold stars) could buy after saving up for a few days anyway. My stance is sort of like how some players feel about Godslayers receiving free items, only that instead of "being a Godslayer you already know how to earn your own keep so why should you get free items?" it is now "being a gold star you already earn so much for free compared to the vast majority of non-donators so why should you get free items?"

I'm reposting my suggestion here to either stop giving items to gold stars or at least severely restrict what they can ask for. I don't have anything against them but it seems like their passive income places them in a much better position to buy their own gear as compared to the typical newbie who doesn't have quite as much free income coming in, i.e. the actual target audience of the free shop.

In the free shop WTS topic, brewdonkey mentioned something about gold stars paying the bills around here - yeah, they do, and they deserve the perks they get for it, but they shouldn't be fighting with newbies for the same free items they (gold stars) could buy after saving up for a few days anyway. My stance is sort of like how some players feel about Godslayers receiving free items, only that instead of "being a Godslayer you already know how to earn your own keep so why should you get free items?" it is now "being a gold star you already earn so much for free compared to the vast majority of non-donators so why should you get free items?"

i have your same idea, i thought about capping their limits to two items max or whatever, but that gold star's request was legit and in the rules there's nothing written about. i know i actually did stop some requests myself (eg a mag and two phases, a leg shade etc), but that didn't seem so much against the rules, so i had to accept it: we make the rules, we can change them, but only once we provide proofs solid enough.

btw, i think a good answer would be 'i do it because i can, rules don't prohibit me'...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 25 2014, 00:41

i have your same idea, i thought about capping their limits to two items max or whatever, but that gold star's request was legit and in the rules there's nothing written about. i know i actually did stop some requests myself (eg a mag and two phases, a leg shade etc), but that didn't seem so much against the rules, so i had to accept it: we make the rules, we can change them, but only once we provide proofs solid enough.

btw, i think a good answer would be 'i do it because i can, rules don't prohibit me'...

I know that as of now, gold stars' requests are still legit since there's nothing in the rules actually prohibiting them from asking, so of course they're still entitled to whatever they ask for as long as they follow the requesting guidelines. I'm not sure how often you guys review the rules and such, but by posting a suggestion here though at least it might be officially reviewed, rather than just be a mere idea on the sidelines that is never actually brought up for discussion among the staff.

Why did I doublepost? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by caiax: Mar 25 2014, 00:47

I know that as of now, gold stars' requests are still legit since there's nothing in the rules actually prohibiting them from asking, so of course they're still entitled to whatever they ask for as long as they follow the requesting guidelines. I'm not sure how often you guys review the rules and such, but by posting a suggestion here though at least it might be officially reviewed, rather than just be a mere idea on the sidelines that is never actually brought up for discussion among the staff.

i don't know if it's what you mean but i can assure you that we simply don't trash the ideas you all are putting up, even though every now and then i feel like someone is trolling and tend to be a bit acid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i don't know if it's what you mean but i can assure you that we simply don't trash the ideas you all are putting up, even though every now and then i feel like someone is trolling and tend to be a bit acid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Heh, no, I didn't mean that. What I meant was since suggestions are supposed to be posted here rather than in the WTS topic, by not "officially" posting my suggestion here previously I thought it would eventually just become a mere idea to think about, rather than a proper suggestion to review the rules. So I posted it here to prevent that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Heh, no, I didn't mean that. What I meant was since suggestions are supposed to be posted here rather than in the WTS topic, by not "officially" posting my suggestion here previously I thought it would eventually just become a mere idea to think about, rather than a proper suggestion to review the rules. So I posted it here to prevent that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

no, this is the official suggestion topic, this actually IS the right place to post them but obviously we read also the ones on the request thread. it's only that keeping them divided makes much easier to track user's requests (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Didn't know/see that there was this suggestion topic for the free shop.

I would love to help out with the free shop. Unfortunately, i don't think i will fulfill the requirements. I'm a long time member of E-hentai, but I'm not a very verbal one. I have helped out with the wiki for hentaiverse when it was not being updated often and was badly in need of updates. I could probably help with keeping the equipment lists up-to-date or where ever you are shorthanded, as long as its something i can do.

Personally, I think gold stars should have full access to the shop. I'm sure there are newbies that are running H@H asking for equips as well. depending on the user's computer and network, H@H can generate about the same, if not more, funding than a gold star (from GP and hath gained from H@H). only reason gold stars will get limited is because they have the icon on the forum which points them out while the H@H users can stay hidden. Why should the people who donate money to the site get limited while the ones who help reduce server loads still have full access when both get bonus fundings for helping the site?

This post has been edited by kevmasterzoc: Mar 25 2014, 08:33

As long as there's sufficient amount of equips to be distributed, don't think too much about the limitations. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Personally, I think gold stars should have full access to the shop. I'm sure there are newbies that are running H@H asking for equips as well. depending on the user's computer and network, H@H can generate about the same, if not more, funding than a gold star (from GP and hath gained from H@H). only reason gold stars will get limited is because they have the icon on the forum which points them out while the H@H users can stay hidden. Why should the people who donate money to the site get limited while the ones who help reduce server loads still have full access when both get bonus fundings for helping the site?

well, everyone helps as they can, updating wiki is a good way to introduce yourself...
what you said is really right, and it's one of the reasons why i really don't know how to deal with them/your so i didn't think about any specific rule: it coulde be obvious by now, but at the moment we don't know if we're gifting shade/power/phase gears to those people, i think an icon to show H@H runners would be needed too...

As long as there's sufficient amount of equips to be distributed, don't think too much about the limitations. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

the emissary of God have spoken part 2 - the return (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 25 2014, 13:15

What can I help you with? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Looks like all the chess players already gathered.

So many rich players. Congrats for the formation of Free Shop ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

well, everyone helps as they can, updating wiki is a good way to introduce yourself...
what you said is really right, and it's one of the reasons why i really don't know how to deal with them/your so i didn't think about any specific rule: it coulde be obvious by now, but at the moment we don't know if we're gifting shade/power/phase gears to those people, i think an icon to show H@H runners would be needed too...

The rules for the Free Shop that's in place are by and large, fair and straight forward. So, why are certain members of the staff are so bent on revising it? Any player between the levels of 30 ~ 200 is eligible to apply for and receive equipments from the Free Shop, provided he or she follows the procedure to the letter. There is no mention of exclusions due to them being a Gold Star or H@H or Black or White, where are you going to stop if you start making revisions so early at the beginnings of the Free Shop? No matter what you call it, it's discrimination - based on what, levels of affluence? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

As per the cream of the crop equipments donated to the free shop, take all the equipment above Level 350 and offer them as prizes for the lottery. Again here, there's talk of taking away donation points from the lottery winners, but why? If donating generate more points, why shouldn't the big time donors have more chance win the lottery? That's the nature of what a lottery is; each ticket has the same chance as the next, having more tickets is simply going to increase the odds a little.

If you give away donated equipments as lottery prizes, chances are some of the big time donors are simply going to refuse to accept the prize or re-donate it back to the Free Shop. If this happens you simply award them the equivalent amount of points for the equipment and either put it back in the mill or send it off to the Auctioneers to generate some credits. These can be used to pay a small stipend to the staff members for their due diligence. After all, the time you spend answering equipment requests or sorting donated equipments, means that you are not playing the game (that's what it's about, right?). Just look at HV's resident goddess Wolfgirl; I was about Lv80 when I first requested equipments from her shop but I'd passed by her so long ago that I can't even remember when.

Anyway, these are food for thought from yours truly...

The rules for the Free Shop that's in place are by and large, fair and straight forward. So, why are certain members of the staff are so bent on revising it? Any player between the levels of 30 ~ 200 is eligible to apply for and receive equipments from the Free Shop, provided he or she follows the procedure to the letter. There is no mention of exclusions due to them being a Gold Star or H@H or Black or White, where are you going to stop if you start making revisions so early at the beginnings of the Free Shop? No matter what you call it, it's discrimination - based on what, levels of affluence? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i said it many times, i'm trying to adapt to the best possible scenery making the less possible people unhappy, that's how democracy works. but i admit now that it has been shown, the whole H@H/gold star matter is really hard to solve without displeasing at least some donators...

As per the cream of the crop equipments donated to the free shop, take all the equipment above Level 350 and offer them as prizes for the lottery. Again here, there's talk of taking away donation points from the lottery winners, but why? If donating generate more points, why shouldn't the big time donors have more chance win the lottery? That's the nature of what a lottery is; each ticket has the same chance as the next, having more tickets is simply going to increase the odds a little.

If you give away donated equipments as lottery prizes, chances are some of the big time donors are simply going to refuse to accept the prize or re-donate it back to the Free Shop. If this happens you simply award them the equivalent amount of points for the equipment and either put it back in the mill or send it off to the Auctioneers to generate some credits.

you know, you're the second person in a couple of days who is scoring many points, the first being caiax, with whom i exchanged a series of PM about this matter.
can't really remember who add that rule, so it may have been me. but i think the whole lottery thing is managed by animeai, and we explicitly said only peerless and items will be used as prizes. all the other that was said about legs it's only chatter without a real application, but i give you a point here.
btw, for the same reason we shouldn't either put previous winners out of the riffle, right?

These can be used to pay a small stipend to the staff members for their due diligence. After all, the time you spend answering equipment requests or sorting donated equipments, means that you are not playing the game (that's what it's about, right?). Just look at HV's resident goddess Wolfgirl; I was about Lv80 when I first requested equipments from her shop but I'd passed by her so long ago that I can't even remember when.

right enough. i knew from the start i wouldn't have percieved a pay, animeai was clear enough so i can't complain it now - yet agreed to this project and spent some of my own credits to buy a few mag items to add (even though i actually was earned the tickets, so we could say it's somehow even). as for levels, well... since FS opened one month ago i was able to update my own shop only once (but not so well in terms of quality), and go up only two or three levels - i was hoping to gain the next SS update last week .-. ; to give you an example, user boulay (nothing personal against you man, you serve me only to show one thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) was 3 or 4 levels under me when we started, and now it's me that is about twenty levels under him.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 26 2014, 12:40

I am not asking the panties of Goddess Snowflake, just a ridiculous piece of wood.

actually you can have them, they cost only 50kHath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just read this in the Hath Perks page:

Follower of Snowflake - Displays your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, the Goddess of Loot and Harvest - 50000 Hath

I thought you were joking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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I have read a critic about low level players do not deserve high type equipment items. I do not think this is totally unreasonable.
So, have you guys thought a way to scale equipment with level?

For example, from level 30 to 50 players can request at max a superior, from 50 to 100 at max an exquisite and so on.

In this way even the rich donors and H@Hathers will have to work to get a good weapon for free. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by zotnios: Mar 26 2014, 12:43