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post May 25 2015, 19:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 25 2015, 07:05) *

what kind of ambiguity may be in a title with the word 'CLOSED' written into it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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I meant that to sound sarcastic, as the people requesting gear seem to be incapable of reading the word when it was only written in caps once.
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post May 25 2015, 20:29
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QUOTE(Mrsuperhappy @ May 25 2015, 19:23) *

I meant that to sound sarcastic, as the people requesting gear seem to be incapable of reading the word when it was only written in caps once.

yup, i agree. but again, since it tends to happen i still wonder which kind of ambiguity may be (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 20:36
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 25 2015, 20:29) *

yup, i agree. but again, since it tends to happen i still wonder which kind of ambiguity may be (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Probably the kind that has it bookmarked, doesn't look at the title or rules and then requests without thinking that it may have changed.
Still sad that the FS is nearly dead... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 21:17
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It makes me bitter smile myself seeing so many requests on CLOSED shop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 21:17
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QUOTE(matirion @ May 25 2015, 20:36) *

Probably the kind that has it bookmarked, doesn't look at the title or rules and then requests without thinking that it may have changed.

as if we didn't say many times to read last rule revision... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post May 25 2015, 22:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 25 2015, 21:17) *

as if we didn't say many times to read last rule revision... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Idiots will be idiots, no matter how many times you tell them something.
Edit: Besides, they probably didn't read that either...

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post May 26 2015, 00:35
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QUOTE(matirion @ May 25 2015, 22:19) *

Idiots will be idiots, no matter how many times you tell them something.
Edit: Besides, they probably didn't read that either...


And then scremaz came and retired the 20k penalty i put on anyone doing a request... joy killer! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post May 26 2015, 00:41
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And then scremaz came and retired the 20k penalty i put on anyone doing a request... joy killer! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

it didn't seem fair to me and someone may have thought bad of it. but you can still re-introduce it, if you want
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post May 26 2015, 00:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2015, 00:41) *

it didn't seem fair to me and someone may have thought bad of it. but you can still re-introduce it, if you want


Well... maybe 5k is better? (Stupidity has no Price... but we can make it cost! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
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post May 26 2015, 02:08
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 26 2015, 00:42) *

Well... maybe 5k is better? (Stupidity has no Price... but we can make it cost! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

If stupidity is priceless, wouldn't the cost be all their money? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 26 2015, 02:40
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QUOTE(matirion @ May 26 2015, 02:08) *

If stupidity is priceless, wouldn't the cost be all their money? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Ya, but we cant ask for that much money... or we can? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 26 2015, 04:54
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Ya, but we cant ask for that much money... or we can? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Asking cant hurt, no?
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post May 26 2015, 07:09
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Asking cant hurt, no?


Yes...
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post May 26 2015, 08:22
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fine, fine. do as you want (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post May 27 2015, 00:40
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Some suggestion about running the shop under new system:
Yeah the level scaling system ruined the shop... Well, the point is that one might have to change his gears 3-4 times from lv30 through lv200 for sufficient level scaling bonus, causing insufficient of equipment.
They why not try to recycle them? For example, a new player takes a set of gear at lv50, assigning this set with lv50. When he hits lv100, he changes for another set, assigning with lv100. Then the lv50 set should be returned and thus can be given to newer players at lv50. This ensures that everyone utilizing this shop only keep one set simultaneously.
When he hits lv150, he may request for a new set of gear assigned with lv150 and return the lv100 set and so forth.
I am a newcomer benefiting from free gears from other shops, and probably one of the last new players benefiting from these gears under the current free shop mechanism. Perhaps we can do something to solve this problem brought by the releasing of the 0.82 version.
If you are already disappointed and do not want to run the shop anymore, that's OK and sorry for disturbing; If not, then I, and hopefully many other new players, would be really appreciating your considering about this or other alternative plan of running the free shop. Thank you.

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post May 27 2015, 00:49
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QUOTE(Maple_1000 @ May 27 2015, 00:40) *

Some suggestion about running the shop under new system:
Yeah the level scaling system ruined the shop... Well, the point is that one might have to change his gears 3-4 times from lv30 through lv200 for sufficient level scaling bonus, causing insufficient of equipment.
They why not try to recycle them? For example, a new player takes a set of gear at lv50, assigning this set with lv50. When he hits lv100, he changes for another set, assigning with lv100. Then the lv50 set should be returned and thus can be given to newer players at lv50. This ensures that everyone utilizing this shop only keep one set simultaneously.
When he hits lv150, he may request for a new set of gear assigned with lv150 and return the lv100 set and so forth.
I am a newcomer benefiting from free gears from other shops, and probably one of the last new players benefiting from these gears under the current free shop mechanism. Perhaps we can do something to solve this problem brought by releasing of the 0.82 version.
If you are already disappointed and do not want to run the shop anymore, that's OK and sorry for disturbing; If not, then I, and hopefully many other new players, would be really appreciating your considering about this or other alternative plan of running the free shop. Thank you.


Your idea is indeed good... but here come the trouble: we still dont know if we will be able to keep doing this as some of the previous "privilegies" of FS has been taken: we cant have more than 1000 pieces on inventory, and we dont know, as tenboro hadnt reply any of our PM, if we can keep open the shop... lastly, as most of the previous donators were upper level guys, their stuff is way to hig to help newbies, and dunno if ppl of the same levels you prpoposed will be in the position to spare some of their equipments: i know there are ppl with good hearts... but... well... the system is just too cruel, as it is, for them... even upper ones, like me, are suffering! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

So, aside for your good idea... those are the walls to break... and we dont have any tool (for now) to do that... do you suggest anything? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 27 2015, 01:13
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 27 2015, 07:49) *

Your idea is indeed good... but here come the trouble: we still dont know if we will be able to keep doing this as some of the previous "privilegies" of FS has been taken: we cant have more than 1000 pieces on inventory, and we dont know, as tenboro hadnt reply any of our PM, if we can keep open the shop... lastly, as most of the previous donators were upper level guys, their stuff is way to hig to help newbies, and dunno if ppl of the same levels you prpoposed will be in the position to spare some of their equipments: i know there are ppl with good hearts... but... well... the system is just too cruel, as it is, for them... even upper ones, like me, are suffering! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

So, aside for your good idea... those are the walls to break... and we dont have any tool (for now) to do that... do you suggest anything? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



"some of the previous "privilegies" of FS has been taken"... Sorry but what does 'has been taken' mean?


Yeah the last problem seems to be the biggest one... Upper level guys used to drop Exq or Mags, which can be donated, while now what they drop is Exq and Mags with lv400+ assigned. Nevertheless, the FS should have some unassigned equipments, and perhaps you can 'hire' some lv50 or lv100 newbies, to use them for a while and return them at higher level when these lv50 or lv100s are not insufficient. It is really bad that it is virtually impossible to add new equipments into the shop but we can probably, make the greatest use of the rest ones.
Since the number of available equipments are very limited now, it is clearly more effective to collect all such unassigned/low level equipments in one store. Yeah I know that such 'communist' strategy may be not welcomed, but this seems to be the best choice under this circumstance. Of course, this cannot be done if other owners were not willing to do this and it might be too much for you to persuade them.
Also, I do happen to get some Exq and Sup melee armors, at Lv95, during random encounter which I would possibly never use as I was playing as a mage since lv1. It may be difficult for a player at my level to have a bulk of high-performance equipment drops, but it is still reasonable to have two or three. Perhaps you can add an addition 'rule' that customers of this shops are encouraged to donate unwanted equipments.

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post May 27 2015, 03:51
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"some of the previous "privilegies" of FS has been taken"... Sorry but what does 'has been taken' mean?

Yeah the last problem seems to be the biggest one... Upper level guys used to drop Exq or Mags, which can be donated, while now what they drop is Exq and Mags with lv400+ assigned. Nevertheless, the FS should have some unassigned equipments, and perhaps you can 'hire' some lv50 or lv100 newbies, to use them for a while and return them at higher level when these lv50 or lv100s are not insufficient.

It is really bad that it is virtually impossible to add new equipments into the shop but we can probably, make the greatest use of the rest ones.
Since the number of available equipments are very limited now, it is clearly more effective to collect all such unassigned/low level equipments in one store. Yeah I know that such 'communist' strategy may be not welcomed, but this seems to be the best choice under this circumstance. Of course, this cannot be done if other owners were not willing to do this and it might be too much for you to persuade them.


Also, I do happen to get some Exq and Sup melee armors, at Lv95, during random encounter which I would possibly never use as I was playing as a mage since lv1. It may be difficult for a player at my level to have a bulk of high-performance equipment drops, but it is still reasonable to have two or three. Perhaps you can add an addition 'rule' that customers of this shops are encouraged to donate unwanted equipments.


1.- Sorry, this new OS is making me write some odd sintaxis phrases: It means we cant have more than 1000 pieces of equipment in the shop (old privilege of FS that Tenboro give to the account).

2.- Sure, but dunno if they will work fro free as the FS staff members... just wondering.

3.- Aside of the political part in that sentence: persuade them? how?

4.- Yeah... that las part sounds good... the unwanted equipments could be good... i just want to wait until Tenboro reply back and tell us if we can or can not keep FS working (the main real stuff with FS right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ).


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post May 27 2015, 08:20
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 27 2015, 10:51) *

1.- Sorry, this new OS is making me write some odd sintaxis phrases: It means we cant have more than 1000 pieces of equipment in the shop (old privilege of FS that Tenboro give to the account).

2.- Sure, but dunno if they will work fro free as the FS staff members... just wondering.

3.- Aside of the political part in that sentence: persuade them? how?

4.- Yeah... that las part sounds good... the unwanted equipments could be good... i just want to wait until Tenboro reply back and tell us if we can or can not keep FS working (the main real stuff with FS right now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ).


1. Er... So the limit of 1000 pieces is also a new feature of 0.82? I'm not quite sure about this...

2. This can be done by requiring them to return the lower-leveled equipment before requesting the new ones. I offer you new gears and you assign the low level for me, and a win-win deal is done. This should work since under current system, fighting with lower-leveled equipment is really difficult, especially at low levels. (Reminder: Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * base_stat, so the lower the level, the more apparent the affect of level scaling. ) Another possible method (Ctrl-A or select by mouse to read):Alternatively you may probably use new accounts but I doubt if this violates the terms of e-hentai...

3. I'm not 100% sure why other shops are offering free gears, but I would like to believe that they are willing to give a hand to new players. Then what is to be done is just to explain that the number of equipment is so limited that it need to be collected into one shop, for the sake of newbies. I'm not sure if this would ACTUALLY work though...


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post May 27 2015, 11:48
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QUOTE(Maple_1000 @ May 27 2015, 08:20) *

1. Er... So the limit of 1000 pieces is also a new feature of 0.82? I'm not quite sure about this...

2. This can be done by requiring them to return the lower-leveled equipment before requesting the new ones. I offer you new gears and you assign the low level for me, and a win-win deal is done. This should work since under current system, fighting with lower-leveled equipment is really difficult, especially at low levels. (Reminder: Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * base_stat, so the lower the level, the more apparent the affect of level scaling. ) Another possible method (Ctrl-A or select by mouse to read):Alternatively you may probably use new accounts but I doubt if this violates the terms of e-hentai...

3. I'm not 100% sure why other shops are offering free gears, but I would like to believe that they are willing to give a hand to new players. Then what is to be done is just to explain that the number of equipment is so limited that it need to be collected into one shop, for the sake of newbies. I'm not sure if this would ACTUALLY work though...

1. This was already the case, but FS had an exception to that and could go over it.

2. People may not return stuff, sometimes because they quit the game, this results in a constant loss of items thats probably gonna be larger than the amount thats coming in...

3. Might work, but hard to do. Most things they get are higher than what FS needs, as most shop owners are higher level...
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