QUOTE(Shinko.Aelith @ Jan 11 2015, 09:35)
Oh my. Sorry.
Then, the legendary shortsword for my 3rd donation request.
Hm... Can I ask the rapier as my magnificient request for this month ?
OK!
QUOTE(iron_chromie @ Jan 11 2015, 11:21)
1) in what way am i an "ANGRY REQUESTER THAT MAKE THE SUGGESTION TO MAKE RULES "EASY-ER" AND SHORT"?
2)Colman mentioned that "It seems English is too hard." and i merely commented that the original set of rules were a wall of text and for someone whose native language is not english, it is an information overload.
3)and in what way does my replies suggest that i did not read the rules? reading them and fully understanding the intention of the writer are two different issues.
4)the problem with written forms of communication is that it is subjected to interpretation. we see that a lot in the courts whereby opposing lawyers and even judges argue about the interpretation of a set of written laws.
well... i did mention that i went with a new request cos i assumed that my previous request is invalid cos my post (which is before the FreeSHop update post) was ignored and my mooglemail is empty.
5)and i thought that the "You may make ONE request post every week" only applies to valid requests.
compared to the previous wall of text, the new simplified "FIRST PART: IRONCLAD RULES" is now easier to read and understand but i have some issues with that red text. i find red text to be a little hard to see especially if they are not bold-ed.
edit: just noticed something.
for the sake of non-native english speakers, please don't use "big words" like "clarifications".
instead go for something more straight forward like "please feel free to ask if you are not sure of the rules".
1) oh sorry... i thought when ppl say "HELL" and when they whine about "That a wall" they were somewhat angry... looks like not your case... bet you pretty happy then. (IMG:[
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2) and yet, when they are in "micro" mode ppl fail to read them... like you.
3) you made 2 request on the same week... so "in what way does my replies suggest that i did not read the rules?"
no. there is nothing that suggest you didnt... THERE ARE FACTS! that show you didnt (or im wrong?)
also "reading them and fully understanding the intention of the writer are two different issues"... and asking was never an option? where do we put that rule about "asking for any doubt will be a reason of ban"?... look or it in the rules... lets see if you UNDERSTAND that part (if it exist) in native englis or another language.
4)... SO... "you shoot him because he was bleeding and you believed he was a zombie?!"... can be along your "i did mention that i went with a new request cos
i assumed that my previous request is invalid cos my post (which is before the FreeSHop update post) was ignored and my mooglemail is empty"... so, now you are the one that can say: "No, my previous post was not valid, and so FS staf members, the ones that have to look over this kinf of things, have to understand this BECAUSE I KNOW THEY KNOW IT WAS INVALID and so they will let me do a request again"... HOLY SHIATSU! NOW WE ARE GODS (or fortunetellers)! and WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!... GOSH!... im using all my power to see, that some ppl (not you) are also in this situation... IM CANCELLING ALL THE REQUEST RIGHT FOR THIS WEEK (until the dawn of a new day) BECAUSE IM PRETTY SURE ALL THE PPL REQUESTING THIS WEEK ARE ALSO IN THIS SITUATION... as the GOD im i know all of you knew your request were INVALIDS.
Also, if you didnt get stuff is because THIS POINT IN THE RULES YOU DIDNT READ:
•13. This is a free service running thanks to the efforts of volunteers who sometimes can be busy with Real Life, and they won't receive any Black Shirt to deal with this project in their free time.
At times, when all of us are busy, it may take some days before items will be sent you. In this case, the cooldown period would still begin with the date of your request. Also, please bump your requests only if they weren't fulfilled within the time of the last batch: you can easily see when this happened by searching the last post by user FreeSHop which says "Everything until this post has BEEN SENT!" or similar. If you don't check this you may lose the weekly chance to request an item, so it's in your interest too.
So, if you want to get your stuff in the blink of an eye = BUY IT!, I (as the most active member working in FS... i think) usually send stuff on weekends (only days i have some free time... like 3 hrs), the rest of my co workers are up to do it the rest of the days... but guess what? they all have RL matters and have to leave FS for now... who do you think is giving his time to help newbies? ME!... if i leave noon will send ppl their request... but ppl like you make me want to throw the towel and let you deal with your battles on your own: Was it to hard to ask? to say anything about that request? Was it?, yet you come and whine as if you havent break the rules... Do you own that right? (im reading your mind).
5) Well... as you are a Newbie here... i bet you havent see my log of replies: is almost 50% full of anger again ppl that did the same as you, so im not new to this kind of replies... also the "please feel free to ask if you are not sure of the rules.", is not once... BUT 3 TIMES IN THE RULES:
•1. Making any request from us means you agree with all our rules. We can ban you if we think there's the need to do so.
◦1.1 If you feel unsure about something you can ask for clarification anytime.thats one
•7. Policies about editing posts: replace wrong posts with a 'del' text and make a whole new post if there's the need to do so - for example if you see an item was requested before you.◦7.1 Don't change your request after lists have been updated, even if you find a better item than the one you requested. This would lead you to a ban.
◦7.2 As always, if you are not sure what to do in this case, feel free to askThats II.
SECOND PART: COMMON NETIQUETTE AND USEFUL SUGGESTIONS
not observing them will lead The Watchdog to scorn you. You may deserve it though. Even if he sometimes may seem an ogre.•
10. We know that many people don't understand English over a certain limit and all this wall of text may scare someone. We did it to cover the most common situations that may happen, but feel free to ask for clarifications anytime. Really, we aren't gods that are happy if new users are afraid of them, and we won't eat them either.THATS 3.
SO... did you REALLY READ THE RULES? (IMG:[
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QUOTE(nyaaaaas @ Jan 11 2015, 13:40)
May I have these Items?
[21032644] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Shocking Mace of Balance PAB: STR DEX AGI
[54891128] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Power Armor of Protection PAB: STR DEX END
and health potion 2 pack plz~!
Thank you very much!
NOPE!... Your level matters.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 11 2015, 14:31)
1) no courts, laws and anything other here. only a service run by volunteers that helps newbies and asks for them to read their conditions.
you satisfied with them? good, then ask us something.
you not satisfied? good enough, and please go ahead. the exit is second door to the left, just before the bathroom.
rules are so much because we think that many questions can be answered simply by reading them. also, we put continuous efforts in tryin to make them better and clearer and in general to assure the continuity of this service, so we aren't always happy when we see a newcomer coming here and saying 'the wall of text is too long to read', it's something that in our eyes implies a certain laziness. please try to understand it and feel free to discuss if you want to, i may be wrong
2) yup, i agree. it seems to me that the phrase 'ask when you don't understand something' is written every now and then for that very reason, isn't it? (IMG:[
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3) didn't follow that matter, but maybe the guy here was only a bit sarcastic... (IMG:[
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4) i deliberately used red because it's a color that gives a certain sense of alert and it's also quite visible both on white theme and on black theme on this forum (yes, we have to consider that matter as well). and they actually ARE bold-ed, quote the post and you will see it yourself. maybe you meant to raise the size, but i can assure you we already tried and it was even less credible
5) simplify is one thing, but ignorance/laziness isn't an excuse. [
translate.google.it]
google translate has many problems in translating whole sentences and [
www.wordreference.com]
wordreference is a bit better, but both of them do a nice work with simple words.
[CLOSED] THE SHARED FREE SHOP!, Free equipments and restoratives for beginners
Jan 11 2015, 08:02
