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post Nov 25 2014, 05:18
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QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 18 2014, 12:39) *

NOPE! last one you maade (already fullfilled) was your last: i saw you were already level 200 when i send it... so...
NOPE!

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Rule #1.3: Your level must be comprised between 30 and 200 to make a request here. Users below level 30 should play the game a little, while users above level 200 should be able to play reasonably well on their own.
Well, at the time of the last request (#6140) I made, I was still at level 200. And I'm sure you can make a request at level 200, right?
If I can't, then there's a need to modify the Rules a little bit here.

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post Nov 25 2014, 05:20
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post Nov 25 2014, 05:36
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QUOTE(shinjix7 @ Nov 25 2014, 05:18) *

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Rule #1.3: Your level must be comprised between 30 and 200 to make a request here. Users below level 30 should play the game a little, while users above level 200 should be able to play reasonably well on their own.
Well, at the time of the last request (#6140) I made, I was still at level 200. And I'm sure you can make a request at level 200, right?
If I can't, then there's a need to modify the Rules a little bit here.


Mhhh... NOPE!

IF YOU MADE YOU REQUEST BEFORE HITTING LEVEL 200 THEN YOUR REQUEST IS VALID.

IF YOU MADE IT RIGHT IN LEVEL 200 THEN IS A NO-NO.

I say you hit level 200, and then you made that last post... so NOPE, we understand levels before 100... but im pretty by now you, at level 200, are at a very solid floor.

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post Nov 25 2014, 07:21
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QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 24 2014, 19:36) *

Mhhh... NOPE!

IF YOU MADE YOU REQUEST BEFORE HITTING LEVEL 200 THEN YOUR REQUEST IS VALID.

IF YOU MADE IT RIGHT IN LEVEL 200 THEN IS A NO-NO.

I say you hit level 200, and then you made that last post... so NOPE, we understand levels before 100... but im pretty by now you, at level 200, are at a very solid floor.


Then I guess there is a need to do modify the Rules a bit. Rule #3 and #4 to be exact.
Players between 30 to 199 can make request, and players who's level is 200 and above will not be able to make anymore request.
As the Rule states, "Your level must be comprised between 30 and 200 to make a request here."
Again, "...between 30 and 200 to make a request here."
And Rule #4: "After level 200 we will qualify you as a Veteran..."
Meaning at level 200 you should still be able to make a request, and then after level 200, you cannot make anymore request, right?
But if you can't, then change it to 199, so that the rules would match what you are telling me.

Did I make a valid statement here?

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post Nov 25 2014, 07:32
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QUOTE(shinjix7 @ Nov 25 2014, 07:21) *

Then I guess there is a need to do modify the Rules a bit. Rule #3 and #4 to be exact.
Players between 30 to 199 can make request, and players who's level is 200 and above will not be able to make anymore request.
As the Rule states, "Your level must be comprised between 30 and 200 to make a request here."
Again, "...between 30 and 200 to make a request here."
And Rule #4: "After level 200 we will qualify you as a Veteran..."
Meaning at level 200 you should still be able to make a request, and then after level 200, you cannot make anymore request, right?
But if you can't, then change it to 199, so that the rules would match what you are telling me.

Did I make a valid statement here?


Yes and No... as i told you i didnt make the rules... i got the point of your statement there, anyway as you at level 200 need less help than ppl at level 30, then i guess you can get the idea of why we are denying you your request... anyway... as im the only one right here, my opinios is not to the only one... so im gonna wait for Scremaz and Revy (?) to see what tey think... so until this is voted... i think your request will be frozen a little... ok? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Nov 25 2014, 08:10
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QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 24 2014, 21:32) *

Yes and No... as i told you i didnt make the rules... i got the point of your statement there, anyway as you at level 200 need less help than ppl at level 30, then i guess you can get the idea of why we are denying you your request... anyway... as im the only one right here, my opinios is not to the only one... so im gonna wait for Scremaz and Revy (?) to see what tey think... so until this is voted... i think your request will be frozen a little... ok? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't mind at all. I'm willing to wait until Scremaz and Revy give their thoughts on this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I know I need less help than those at level 30, and it's not about my request that I'm worried about, it's the consistency of the Rule.
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post Nov 25 2014, 09:37
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QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 25 2014, 01:32) *

im gonna wait for Scremaz and Revy (?) to see what tey think... so until this is voted... i think your request will be frozen a little... ok? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I recall the post he was talking about he was level 199 at the time he made it.
A few hours later he was level 200, he did make the post before he hit level 200 even if it was just by a few hours..
So my take on it is, his request can still be filled but it be the last thing he can ever ask for in here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Nov 25 2014, 10:10
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Mmmhmm referring to the offer.....


May I have:

[52039071] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Phase Cap of Fenrir PAB: INT WIS
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QUOTE(WhiteWolfRevy92 @ Nov 25 2014, 15:37) *

I recall the post he was talking about he was level 199 at the time he made it.
A few hours later he was level 200, he did make the post before he hit level 200 even if it was just by a few hours..
So my take on it is, his request can still be filled but it be the last thing he can ever ask for in here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


I think the real question was - can you make a request when you are exactly at level 200? I guess this answer implies that requests are void when you are at level 200.
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post Nov 25 2014, 10:50
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May I request following items

My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is:
[37456086] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Mithril Power Gauntlets of Protection PAB: STR DEX END

My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are:
[55804622] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ethereal Mace of Slaughter PAB: STR DEX AGI
[45496529] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ethereal Longsword of Balance PAB: STR DEX AGI

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including Shielding Plate) armor are:
[44259867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Helmet of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[40775412] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Breastplate of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[55430107] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Reinforced Leather Leggings of Dampening PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[52357488] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Boots of Deflection PAB: STR DEX END AGI


My TWO requests for potion packs are:
1 Mana Potion Pack
1 Health Potion Pack

I appreciate what you have done
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post Nov 25 2014, 12:51
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my thought about this thing is: do a rule and there always be an exploit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
don't remember anything about his level back then but it doesn't mean anything. give him those items and then let's change upper limit to 199
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post Nov 25 2014, 15:44
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 25 2014, 19:51) *

my thought about this thing is: do a rule and there always be an exploit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
don't remember anything about his level back then but it doesn't mean anything. give him those items and then let's change upper limit to 199

And then someone will persistently stay at Lv199 again, so it's not effective. In fact, I know someone who can donate enough for a Star, but still holding because he doesn't want to level up fast and miss his chance to request many things from FreeSHop.
Sorry piyin, but it's not possible to resist ppls who stay within the rule like that, just let them be.

QUOTE(KakaoTalk12 @ Nov 25 2014, 17:50) *

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And KakaoTalk12, lv up to 30 before request plz.
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post Nov 25 2014, 15:54
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 25 2014, 14:44) *

And then someone will persistently stay at Lv199 again, so it's not effective. [...]
Sorry piyin, but it's not possible to resist ppls who stay within the rule like that, just let them be.

i know, and already said that once you make a rule/law, someone will readily exploit it.

QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 25 2014, 14:44) *

In fact, I know someone who can donate enough for a Star, but still holding because he doesn't want to level up fast and miss his chance to request many things from FreeSHop.

though i didn't know this, but already suspected it...
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post Nov 25 2014, 16:38
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QUOTE(KakaoTalk12 @ Nov 25 2014, 10:50) *

May I request following items

My ONE request from Shade, Phase, Power or Shielding Plate items is:
[37456086] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Mithril Power Gauntlets of Protection PAB: STR DEX END

My TWO requests from 1 Handed, 2 Handed, Staff or Shields are:
[55804622] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ethereal Mace of Slaughter PAB: STR DEX AGI
[45496529] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ethereal Longsword of Balance PAB: STR DEX AGI

My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including Shielding Plate) armor are:
[44259867] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Helmet of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[40775412] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Breastplate of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[55430107] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Reinforced Leather Leggings of Dampening PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[52357488] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Boots of Deflection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
My TWO requests for potion packs are:
1 Mana Potion Pack
1 Health Potion Pack

I appreciate what you have done


Too early.
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post Nov 25 2014, 17:45
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Can you send me these Items?

[48947862] - [hv0.co.uk] Leg Cobalt Plate Helmet of Warding PAB: STR DEX END

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1 potion pack

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post Nov 25 2014, 18:44
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May I have

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and 1 Health Potion Pack?

Thank you!
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post Nov 25 2014, 21:20
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post Nov 25 2014, 23:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 25 2014, 02:51) *

my thought about this thing is: do a rule and there always be an exploit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
don't remember anything about his level back then but it doesn't mean anything. give him those items and then let's change upper limit to 199

QUOTE(WhiteWolfRevy92 @ Nov 24 2014, 23:37) *

I recall the post he was talking about he was level 199 at the time he made it.
A few hours later he was level 200, he did make the post before he hit level 200 even if it was just by a few hours..
So my take on it is, his request can still be filled but it be the last thing he can ever ask for in here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Thank you for your thoughts on this Scremaz and Revy.
It is the sad truth. Rules will be bended and exploited for the sole purpose of someone's own convenience and profit. But so long as someone points it out, you can always make amends to them.
Rules are ever-changing and will always be.

QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 25 2014, 05:44) *

And then someone will persistently stay at Lv199 again, so it's not effective. In fact, I know someone who can donate enough for a Star, but still holding because he doesn't want to level up fast and miss his chance to request many things from FreeSHop.
Sorry piyin, but it's not possible to resist ppls who stay within the rule like that, just let them be.
And KakaoTalk12, lv up to 30 before request plz.

Someone has done that here already?
Well, I guess that person has a lot of free time then. But I doubt they will be staying at 199 indefinitely, because of the Dawn of a New Day event. So let them be and they will eventually reach the Veteran level on themselves without even doing anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 25 2014, 23:17
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QUOTE(shinjix7 @ Nov 25 2014, 22:12) *

Someone has done that here already?
Well, I guess that person has a lot of free time then. But I doubt they will be staying at 199 indefinitely, because of the Dawn of a New Day event. So let them be and they will eventually reach the Veteran level on themselves without even doing anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

you know, it's not needed to earn the dawn of the new day bonus to play this game. and if you don't write too much that bonus will however remain quite low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 26 2014, 00:41
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QUOTE(shinjix7 @ Nov 25 2014, 23:12) *

Thank you for your thoughts on this Scremaz and Revy.

It is the sad truth. Rules will be bended and exploited for the sole purpose of someone's own convenience and profit. But so long as someone points it out, you can always make amends to them.

Rules are ever-changing and will always be.

Someone has done that here already?
Well, I guess that person has a lot of free time then. But I doubt they will be staying at 199 indefinitely, because of the Dawn of a New Day event. So let them be and they will eventually reach the Veteran level on themselves without even doing anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



-Mhhh... first part = no comments.

-Yeah... just yeah.

- Killing is still illegal, till today.

- Yeah, there are ppl like that... know a lot of them.

Anyway... as the rule has that little hole that you make us discover im gonna change the rule and made it thicker:

NOW!... if you made your post and reach level 200 or upper by the time we send stuff =

YOU WONT GET ANYTHING!

THATS RIGHT!

To prevent more of this matter, we will be closing the loophole that that matter also lead to:

IT IS NOT IN THE RULES THAT WE NEED TO SEND YOU PPL STUFF ONCE YOU REACHED LEVEL 200 OR UPPER... RIGHT?

Thats was something i posted a long tme ago... and the system worked that way... until today... so...

LETS MAKE THE RULES CLEAR!

OK? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Nov 26 2014, 02:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 25 2014, 13:17) *

you know, it's not needed to earn the dawn of the new day bonus to play this game. and if you don't write too much that bonus will however remain quite low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You got a point there. With low experience gain from the dawn of the new day bonus, it's going to take some time for that said user to get to the next level...

QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 25 2014, 14:41) *

-Mhhh... first part = no comments.

-Yeah... just yeah.

- Killing is still illegal, till today.

- Yeah, there are ppl like that... know a lot of them.

Anyway... as the rule has that little hole that you make us discover im gonna change the rule and made it thicker:

NOW!... if you made your post and reach level 200 or upper by the time we send stuff =

YOU WONT GET ANYTHING!

THATS RIGHT!

To prevent more of this matter, we will be closing the loophole that that matter also lead to:

IT IS NOT IN THE RULES THAT WE NEED TO SEND YOU PPL STUFF ONCE YOU REACHED LEVEL 200 OR UPPER... RIGHT?

Thats was something i posted a long tme ago... and the system worked that way... until today... so...

LETS MAKE THE RULES CLEAR!

OK? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



Now now, don't be a sour sport. I'm only asking for one equipment.
I do remember you saying that if you made a request before reaching veteran level and then after reaching veteran level after making that request, it is still a valid request, right?
And should I re-quote the current rules again? Because it is in the current rule.

Heck, here it is again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Rules:
3. Your level must be comprised between 30 and 200 to make a request here. Users below level 30 should play the game a little, while users above level 200 should be able to play reasonably well on their own.

4. After level 200 we will qualify you as a Veteran (regardless of whatever rank you display) and you won't be able to use this service anymore. We have no plans to sell equipment/items for credits in the future nor to trade them, regardless of your level.

And I thought it was going to be a vote by majority between staff members?
So don't tell me, you are going back on your words, piyin?
QUOTE(piyin @ Nov 24 2014, 21:32) *

so im gonna wait for Scremaz and Revy (?) to see what tey think... so until this is voted... i think your request will be frozen a little... ok? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Scremaz and Revy has already given their approval (yes's):
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 25 2014, 02:51) *

my thought about this thing is: do a rule and there always be an exploit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
don't remember anything about his level back then but it doesn't mean anything. give him those items and then let's change upper limit to 199

QUOTE(WhiteWolfRevy92 @ Nov 24 2014, 23:37) *

I recall the post he was talking about he was level 199 at the time he made it.
A few hours later he was level 200, he did make the post before he hit level 200 even if it was just by a few hours..
So my take on it is, his request can still be filled but it be the last thing he can ever ask for in here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

The majority is in favor of the request, so unless, both Scremaz and Revy retracts their words and veto my request, I don't see any problem to fulfill my request here.

EDIT:
With respect to kumosu, I toned down my argument a bit. Apologies if I've raised my tempo a little too high.
@Waffol
I agree with you on that, but each staff member have their own thoughts on the situation.

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