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post Oct 6 2014, 18:46
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2014, 23:16) *

first of all, people has already problems with reading what we wrote already, so we prefer not to augment the number of rules if not needed. i guess we should really need though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

personally, a couple of hours has never been a problem for me; unluckily this time zones thing isn't always immediate to consider (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


We should just pick a time zone as a reset point instead of using the generic "Monday". There are 24 different times that could be Monday 0001 after all.
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post Oct 6 2014, 18:53
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QUOTE(TsundereCon @ Oct 6 2014, 18:46) *

We should just pick a time zone as a reset point instead of using the generic "Monday". There are 24 different times that could be Monday 0001 after all.

GMT at this point...

[edit]: but thinking a bit about it, shouldn't it be enough to wait for a couple hours if not sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Oct 6 2014, 19:22
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May I request

[52250154] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Ruby Shade Helmet of the Arcanist PAB: INT WIS STR DEX END AGI

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post Oct 6 2014, 19:31
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QUOTE(Tugamos @ Oct 6 2014, 11:29) *

Hello there,
To be able to make a request, i send the item and potions back to freeshop, deleted previous invalid requests and im gona leave the new one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I want [53528976] - Leg Onyx Power Gauntlets of Warding PAB: STR DEX END please.
Hope watchdog aprove this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Thank you!


Ehhh... Let us check.


QUOTE(qm071364 @ Oct 6 2014, 14:17) *

I was originally trying to request the leg item, but someone got it before me.
And I noticed that I requested 2 potions instead of one.
So after a brief calculation I figured that my allowance for that week was another mag item.
However it was almost Monday so I was not sure if I will get my mag item anymore.
For the new week I am trying to get the leg item.

Also I think there should be "or" options to prevent me from requesting an item,
then notice its in another player's hand after days.


SCREMAZ!!! EDIT BTHE RULES AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN... PPL STILL DOESNT UNDERSTAND PLAIN RULES... LIKE THIS:

6.2 You can choose one of the following options for every request:
A single Legendary item from any category and 1 potion pack OR...
A single Magnificent item from any category and 2 potion packs OR...
A combination of Superior or Exquisite items and 2 potion packs with the following limits

Darn! F rules, so complex so ppl cant understand them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) .

QUOTE(gin982 @ Oct 6 2014, 15:48) *

I want to request

[48938162] - Exq Fiery Mace of Slaughter PAB: STR DEX AGI
[37517287] - Exq Amber Plate Helmet of Protection PAB: STR DEX END
[45370908] - Exq Plate Cuirass of Protection PAB: STR DEX END
[50920824] - Exq Shielding Plate Gauntlets of Protection PAB: STR DEX END
[37816912] - Exq Shielding Plate Greaves of Protection PAB: STR DEX END

[43972526] - Exq Onyx Plate Sabatons of Protection PAB: STR DEX END

Thank you very much!




EDIT THAT OR BAN!

QUOTE(andrsilva @ Oct 6 2014, 17:49) *

I'm honestly surprised that something as important as the 'red bolded' part was left out from the rules of the FS thread.
The 'red bolded' part sets a condition to this rule of the FS thread.
Without the conditions('red bolded' part) set to the rules that is mentioned above, any user who fits the criteria for making a request can make a request for new items on every monday regardless of any cooldown period as no such thing was specified in the rules.

The rule technically allows a person to make a request on Sunday 23:59, and make a new request on the following Monday, 00:01.

Moreover, even though the rules did not specify any cooldown period between requests, I was careful enough to not make a new request in less than 24hrs of my previous request (though I don't know how this 'dawn of the new day' event works).

Please follow the link below to view the image which explains the time displayed in the forum between my requests when I was logged on and not.

[www.tiikoni.com] http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=3435017
With that said, I respectfully request the staff to review my request for this week and come to a decision agreed upon by all the staff of the FS on how best to handle my request as the reason for invalidating my request was basically non existent in the rules.
I also respectfully request the staff to update the rules to include the new conditions to prevent similar cases from happening again.

My sincerest apologies for the inconveniences caused.


its been my procedure to send stuff always before or after the dawn of a new day event on HV... why? becuase that the time i have (few times) to do it... now... SCREMAZ!!! RE RE RE RE RE RE EDIT THE DARN RULES!!! im suffering to be the bad guy here... i mean is not like i have better things to do (work, family, school, social life, etc) than being here arguing with ppl!... to make my point clear i used the TIME OF THE FORUMS AS THE REFERENCE TO DEFINE IF SOMEONE IS OR IS NOT LANDING ON MONDAY (as the time zones are indeed tricky) so my bad if ppl dont understand why i do this: as i post... that the time im able to do it... but if ppl dont like it then is pretty simple: I WONT BE SENDING ANYTHING (im just a volunteer), and i will let scremaz deal with it... so yeah FS can just work with only one guy... RIGHT SCREMAZ?

Also andrsilva: if your post was invalidated because you did it in the wrong time: WHY THE F! YOU JUST DONT MADE ANOTHER ONE AFTER I POST THE EVERYTHING SEND POST?...

that one could be valid, BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER THE TIME IN THE FORUMS.. and so valid.

i was not telling you i was taking your right to request: JUST TO DO IT 1-2 MIN AFTER!





QUOTE(TsundereCon @ Oct 6 2014, 18:46) *

We should just pick a time zone as a reset point instead of using the generic "Monday". There are 24 different times that could be Monday 0001 after all.


AND THAT WHY I SUFFER LIKE A DIYING ANIMAL AFTER STUFF LIKE THE UPPER ONE HAPPENS... OH also if I HAVE TIME TO DO IT (IM NOT FS SLAVE, NEITHER YOURS).

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2014, 18:53) *

GMT at this point...

[edit]: but thinking a bit about it, shouldn't it be enough to wait for a couple hours if not sure? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


WISE! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... yet ppl... darn! i wont tell anything because ppl is so sensible when it COMES TO FREE STUFF THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR AND KEEP GOING AGAINST US AS IF WE WERE TRIYING TO BE UNFAIR JUST AGAINST THEM...

AH... i just let my rage out my body/soul/spirit/heart... so im just gonna be calm and do nothing for a while... and i mean NOTHING (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (that way i wont angry ppl... right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ).







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post Oct 6 2014, 19:37
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QUOTE(piyin @ Oct 6 2014, 19:31) *

Ehhh... Let us check.
SCREMAZ!!! EDIT BTHE RULES AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN... PPL STILL DOESNT UNDERSTAND PLAIN RULES...

tbh, i didn't really understood what he was trying to do until you explained it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(piyin @ Oct 6 2014, 19:31) *

im suffering to be the bad guy here...

back then you agreed, so no complaining now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
and besides, i won't be able to find such many nice gifs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(piyin @ Oct 6 2014, 19:31) *

I WONT BE SENDING ANYTHING[/size] (im just a volunteer), and i will let scremaz deal with it... so yeah FS can just work with only one guy... RIGHT SCREMAZ?

i guess so. so it will only be on that guy's shoulders when i'll find a work too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

[edit]: thinking a bit about it - part 2: this is a shop, it may be closed when needed/unavoidable...

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post Oct 6 2014, 19:47
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2014, 19:37) *

tbh, i didn't really understood what he was trying to do until you explained it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


back then you agreed, so no complaining now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
and besides, i won't be able to find such many nice gifs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i guess so. so it will only be on that guy's shoulders when i'll find a work too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
[edit]: thinking a bit about it - part 2: this is a shop, it may be closed when needed/unavoidable...


1.- but is clear... right?

2.- IM BAD... but bad ppl doesnt deserve to suffer or is better to say they dont want to... thats understable... right?

3.- Agree, the title will be

"Freeshop closed because we have a life and dont want to be bullied for our volunteer work here... also the scripts doesnt work and WE HAVE TO DO THE SENDING MANUALLY... THOSE ARE 3-4 HRS INCLUDING EQUPMENTS, POTIONS AND FINDING RULE BREAKERS IN THE ALMOST 120-220 REQUEST MADE EVERYWEEK... So see yaa... OH also, PPL POSTING WHILE THE SHOP CLOSED WILL BE BANNED.. BECAUSE IS CLOSED, OK?"

Or something alike... i bet this is why we can have nice things...



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post Oct 6 2014, 20:06
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My FIVE requests from Cotton, Leather or Plate (not including SHielding Plate) armor are:
[34788703] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Helmet of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[50911173] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Leather Leggings of Protection PAB: STR DEX END AGI
[46725525] - [hv0.co.uk] Exq Ruby Leather Boots of Protection PAB: STR END AGI

Thanks in advance!
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post Oct 6 2014, 20:48
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Please send me these Items.

[43399082] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Mace of Slaughter PAB: STR DEX AGI

1 Health Potion Pack
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post Oct 6 2014, 21:28
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Please send me

[53655800] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Ethereal Axe of Slaughter PAB: STR DEX AGI

Thank you!
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post Oct 6 2014, 21:33
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May I please have,

[51155051] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Amber Shade Breastplate of the Fleet PAB: STR DEX END AGI

2 Mana potion packs



@ Piyin

I was under the impression that we only get one chance to make a request, and that if we blow up our chance for whatever reason we won't get another chance to make a new request this week. Hence why I tried to defend my request. Also, I stayed up almost till dawn to make that request since I was scared someone would snatch it which was a motivational factor behind my post.

Moreover, I like you very much as you've been very helpful to me in clarifying info and keeping the FS alive. So I'll try my very best to not complain about anything FS related ever again. I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway and please accept my sincerest apologies.
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post Oct 6 2014, 22:17
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QUOTE(andrsilva @ Oct 6 2014, 21:33) *

May I please have,

[51155051] - [hv0.co.uk] Mag Amber Shade Breastplate of the Fleet PAB: STR DEX END AGI

2 Mana potion packs

@ Piyin

I was under the impression that we only get one chance to make a request, and that if we blow up our chance for whatever reason we won't get another chance to make a new request this week. Hence why I tried to defend my request. Also, I stayed up almost till dawn to make that request since I was scared someone would snatch it which was a motivational factor behind my post.

Moreover, I like you very much as you've been very helpful to me in clarifying info and keeping the FS alive. So I'll try my very best to not complain about anything FS related ever again. I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway and please accept my sincerest apologies.


SO... YOU ARE A PICKER?!

You know... im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Motivated to BAN YOU... now that you have already show your colors: "so instead of looks for something that can HELP YOU... YOU JUST ARE LOOKING FOR THE BEST EQUIPMENTS!?"... Dunno if im being too paranoic... but for me thats a WAY OF CHEATING: taking only the good stuff. also ppl that keeps asking for equipments mags and legs (legs over all) are always in my eye, like pigraccoon, who asked for like 2 mags and 3 legs, in the few weeks he was around here: too much greed will lead to your downfall.

Im not gonna ban you... at least not until the next 10 ppl posting here can tell me if you are cheating or not (if you were buying stuff this could not be a proble, as you are paying for it... but you are getting stuff free to help you... not to fulfill your lusty greed).

SO PPL: Next 10 Posting must vote to see if andrsilva is cheating or not... you can make your request and then add if you think he is or if he is not (to make this fair).

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post Oct 6 2014, 22:23
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mmm... ten more posts would make me closer being the top spammer in this thread... seriously tempted...
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post Oct 6 2014, 23:13
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Well, I already got my request, so lessee. First of all, in my stupid opinion, there's nothing entirely wrong with "pick and choose" versus "look for best equipments" if and only if you intend to use them (you can tell the distinction if one week they get a Leg Heimdall and the next they give a Mag Power). It teaches noobs how find good equips, certainly fulfilling part of the spirit of this store by helping noobs. On the other, it deprives the guess and pickers (truly noobs), of the possibility that they'll get good equips, thus we end up with a net good of zero or net loss of good done.

Given his record, he's been slowly learning how to make distinctions between what equipment will help him, but I really, really hope he's returned what he's not using. Or tried to actually pay back a bit of debt with donated equips.

If any of those conditions are fulfilled, he shouldn't get banned. If they aren't, well... he can certainly keep the equips he has for life and eat a ban.

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post Oct 6 2014, 23:43
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 6 2014, 23:13) *

Well, I already got my request, so lessee. First of all, in my stupid opinion, there's nothing entirely wrong with "pick and choose" versus "look for best equipments" if and only if you intend to use them (you can tell the distinction if one week they get a Leg Heimdall and the next they give a Mag Power). It teaches noobs how find good equips, certainly fulfilling part of the spirit of this store by helping noobs. On the other, it deprives the guess and pickers (truly noobs), of the possibility that they'll get good equips, thus we end up with a net good of zero or net loss of good done.

Given his record, he's been slowly learning how to make distinctions between what equipment will help him, but I really, really hope he's returned what he's not using. Or tried to actually pay back a bit of debt with donated equips.

If any of those conditions are fulfilled, he shouldn't get banned. If they aren't, well... he can certainly keep the equips he has for life and eat a ban.

and giving one jolly per week is another teaching to noobies, be careful when to play it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

fact is, we are dispensing equips that a lv400 can consider average, but a lv300 still may find useful: without questioning the specific case, we already saw (and caught! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) someone who abused of this service to do some quick credits. or people asking for many (let's say 10?) armor pieces of the same type because they 'picked and chose' week after week the best gears available at the moment. allow us to be a little pissed about that: in first because FS isn't so well-seen from all the players - we recieved some posts, PM, karmas... a-bit-of-all claiming that we basically ruined WTS section, for example; second, because that's somewhat an abuse of our time/efforts

now, if we really want to speak about the above user, what did he do?
he chose an item, then after another one was available, he immediately picked another and bargained what he just recieved to have the second. comprehensible. let's be honest, who wouldn't have tried to do it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
when you'll start to search in WTS (as i just wrote to piyin) you'll see some really nice equips, maybe you'll even broke your whole credits to try and buy it, and after a little bit you'll see another one, maybe better, maybe cheaper, maybe both. but you can't buy it anymore because you are almost bankrupt: that's another teaching, never gamble everything you own.
last but not the least, he candidly admitted that he stayed at the pc waiting for cooldown reset (jpg speaks by itself, as far as i've understood): that's the kind of thing that pisses the watchdog. maybe he likes to show his gif collection but he's not bad, he only cares about some things, this is one of them. if we want to extract a story out of this, never make a benefactor think twice about what he did for you.


tl;dr: we'll give you what you want, at our conditions. and besides, it isn't explicitly written but we have full right to vetoing something, given a proper explanation.

this is less or more what i think. quite long, but i'm quite tired of seeing people not reading rules or searching excuses here and there. please don't treat us as fools, because behind this giveaway service there are hundreds of hours of work by us retainers, by the coders and personal resources of the person who sponsored all this.

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post Oct 7 2014, 00:09
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Ah, that's fair enough. I don't have much experience with the game to argue those points. In fact, I was busy looking for wolfgirl's shop when I came off hiatus to send some stuff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Oh and waiting for Dawn? Huh. I knew I was forgetting something in my judgement.
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post Oct 7 2014, 00:12
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 7 2014, 00:09) *

Ah, that's fair enough. I don't have much experience with the game to argue those points. In fact, I was busy looking for wolfgirl's shop when I came off hiatus to send some stuff. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Oh and waiting for Dawn? Huh. I knew I was forgetting something in my judgement.

as you may have seen, we are the continuation of wolfgirl's shop. she's still here, btw.

as for that waiting-for-dawn thing, it's here:
QUOTE(andrsilva @ Oct 6 2014, 21:33) *

Also, I stayed up almost till dawn to make that request since I was scared someone would snatch it which was a motivational factor behind my post.

absolutely nothing against that kind of things. dawn here is at 2AM, and when it's almost 1.30, every now and then i wait about half an hour too to see lottery results. but i don't bother the watchdog (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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Wait, you can get name changes? Cool. I must have missed a lot an the past 8(?) months.
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post Oct 7 2014, 00:20
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gold stars and above can, among other things. afterall, you *have* to offer something more to users who donated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 6 2014, 15:12) *


as for that waiting-for-dawn thing, it's here:

I knew about that from piyin's post, but I forgot about it when I went thread crawling for silva's posts.
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absolutely nothing against that kind of things. dawn here is at 2AM, and when it's almost 1.30, every now and then i wait about half an hour too to see lottery results. but i don't bother the watchdog (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Dawn is around 5pm for me.

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which is surely a more reasonable time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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