[X] My Assistant

you're too late, gnegne (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Can I blame the fact that I had just woken up and was posting from a tablet? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway, t'was just one more opinion to add to the mix.

We can also help other shops as well if they sell superior/exquisite items by buying some of those items (if they are reasonably priced), especially if a certain category of items is running low in the freeshop (very unlikely).

another good suggestion imo, i was thinking it myself. maybe the most elegant so far, this way we could also help a bit the economy.
as for low item categories, surely there are some undesired suffix: for example, it's unlikely someone would buy a shortsword of vampire but if some newbies want to try it - well, why not, it surely would be underpriced btw?

Can I blame the fact that I had just woken up and was posting from a tablet? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

no, don't make silly excuses (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 02:48

Hello, I wish I'd checked the forums sooner. Could put the following to good use:

[40867288] - Exquisite Mace of the Vampire Primary Attributes: STR DEX

[41463936] - Superior Cobalt Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer Primary Attributes: END AGI

[34261327] - Exquisite Power Helmet of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX

Much obliged! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by mcz: Mar 24 2014, 02:51

Well, 300k is all I have for now. With that you can't probably get a legendary anywhere in the shops so...yeah, here I am.

I don't know about other Godslayers but my earning is roughly 25k/day. That is the case if I play for the whole day.

This post has been edited by Kaithera: Mar 23 2014, 03:52

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3113414

[40271014] - Magnificent Fiery Mace of Slaughter

I have received being used

The item is sent to me in the first place

This post has been edited by Rugers: Mar 23 2014, 03:54

Can i have
[41657167] - Exquisite Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI
Thanks

and @caiax. Gold star people are a little better off financially, but its still easy to go broke. 10k credit a day disappears quite quickly,especially with training, even if you sell the 3 haths. sold most of my haths for the auctions for shielding pieces (150k so far) and gonna be broke afterwards

IMO it's all about prioritising your spending and saving up wisely, and this applies to all players, gold star or not. If you want to spend your income on training, gear, etc. simultaneously without saving up for one priority at a time, of course you're going to go broke, and that has nothing to do with how well off financially you are. Gold stars can earn 37K everyday in credits and Hath simply by refreshing a page with no time investment required beforehand; the rest of us who only get a few hundred credits (plus 1 Hath for those with cookies) per Dawn actually have to play the game to earn as much as you guys do for free (in terms of time, not real money).

You can always disallow Mag/Leg from being donated.

Can I have

[41634801] - Exquisite Amber Plate Gauntlets of Protection

thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hi,
Might I please Request:
[23011500] - Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX
Thank you very much,
summ

imo, you can always run the free shop like a lot of the non-profit.

-give out free stuff (Exq & under)
-run auctions to sell off the more expensive items, then give a 1 time starter pack. (ie 50k credits, potions, etc).
-have a ongoing suggestion box with a decent reward for new players. it's another means to "earn" income/credits to buy stuff. ie 20 Haths for writing a new sript, 5haths for a good suggestion that improves efficiency & prevents fraud, or help another newbie out for 1k credits, etc.

i would hold off custody of items from new players. ie IW services or receiving & senting items. though, general record keeping, tracking or doing an auction might be fine.

just my 2 cents anyway.

You can always disallow Mag/Leg from being donated.

Now THAT is a great suggestion.

As far as the other suggestions, you guys are on the right track. I'm not trying to act like the butt-hurt shop owner, but I am fighting to keep some value in the equipment that I sell. Just as long as you guys don't start giving away bindings and materials I guess it will keep us somewhat in business. However, now I might have to shrink my shop entirely as will others because the bulk of the new players won't be buying anything from us. Respect the rarity of the items as stated by caiax. There is no justification for a new player to own a magnificent/legendary right off the bat. Those are levels you work up to and earn ... otherwise what is the point of playing? In closing, you guys are on the right track and I'm confident you will come up with a solution that is fair and respects the current players who had to grind hard to get where they are and earn what they have.

Oh and gold star players pay the bills around here. They support the site in RL and we need them more than HV needs us. As soon as I sell my rocket car I'll be donating, too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by brewdonkey: Mar 23 2014, 08:26

[37054639] - Magnificent Shielding Plate Greaves of Warding
I want to take this .Thk

1. I'm not sure why botters would have to grab things from the free shop; it's so easy to be caught...

2. Even if there's no free shop, people would still be giving away their equips to new players. It's just that the free shop can centralize the whole process. And I don't think this is affecting the economy.
First of all most players would only get 1 free Mag/Leg equips from the free shop; if they play enough they'd get to lv.150+ in a few days. Nobody's going to be a beggar just because another beggar's getting thousand-dollar notes.
Secondly, it's all players' generosity; if the free shop turn down the equips, they'll most likely end up in the bazaar, which would then be bought by rich players. That's not helping anyone, including those opening a shop. If you think nobody's buying from you shop, that's most likely caused by the equips' quality, not the free shop. People has been complaining about the free shop (for a long time), but most of the time it's because they are selling things that's almost the same quality as the common items in the free shop; those selling mid/high-end equips aren't affected at all.

3. Running auction is kinda...meh idea, as it involves pricing, choosing the equip, getting extra credits, etc. But then it does help to smooth the difference between what new players would get. The best way it can be done: let other players 'choose' from the shop. Then put the equips in those 'common' auctions. The proceeds would be given to new players.

4. Or, add another rule that new players can only get one pack of Mag/Leg/credits. They can't ask for anything else...like ever. So they can choose to get one really good equip and pay for others, or they can choose to get a set of okay equips. That should balance things out.

BTW, if you guys can't agree on something, have an internal vote. It can be easily arranged through PM/MMs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 23 2014, 11:16

Can I ask for
[32334884] - Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX END

and Thanks a lot。

cna i have

[40233602] - Magnificent Shade Boots of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI

Thanks ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My bad, I edited a previous post to condense all the requests

This post has been edited by mcz: Mar 24 2014, 02:52

4. Or, add another rule that new players can only get one pack of Mag/Leg/credits. They can't ask for anything else...like ever. So they can choose to get one really good equip and pay for others, or they can choose to get a set of okay equips. That should balance things out.

BTW, if you guys can't agree on something, have an internal vote. It can be easily arranged through PM/MMs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

4. that was the purpose of the infinite cooldown on leg and the one-month on mag, i really can't understand why it was lowered to one week...

BTW: i actually didn't want to write two pages of comments in public, it would seem that the group hasn't a common direction, but at least it once again shows that we are open to suggestions...

Well, 300k is all I have for now. With that you can't probably get a legendary anywhere in the shops so...yeah, here I am.

I don't know about other Godslayers but my earning is roughly 25k/day. That is the case if I play for the whole day.

you saw that piece and you tried given the fact that you read that 'we can still help you' thing, the matter is that we still didn't agree with that rule (yeh, debating something with people which live in different time zones, don't connect everyday and without group PMs take quite a few time... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ), thus all the discussion you saw here, sorry for the matter. imo you shouldn't even try to go for a leg with that money, and at your/our levels a 4PABs mag is more than enough.
and btw, i would be happy if i could earn 25k everyday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 15:38

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3113414

[40271014] - Magnificent Fiery Mace of Slaughter

I have received being used

The item is sent to me in the first place

no, item was sent to hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa, actual lv36 Newbie, joined 12th March but not logged since that request:

can i get this weapon?
[40271014] - Magnificent Fiery Mace of Slaughter Primary Attributes

Thanks for your favor

how can you explain that?

[edit]: user Rugers is right, no further explanations needed.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 16:12

4. that was the purpose of the infinite cooldown on leg and the one-month on mag, i really can't understand why it was lowered to one week...

BTW: i actually didn't want to write two pages of comments in public, it would seem that the group hasn't a common direction, but at least it once again shows that we are open to suggestions...

No, I mean you can never get anything from the free shop if you've got a Mag/Leg/credits, and you can't request for Mag/Leg/credits if you've already taken other equips.

And it's always good to discuss in public. Or open a new thread just for the discussion.