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Mar 22 2014, 15:55
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locomatriz90
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fu fu fu sorry to respond in Spanish I'm from peru translate it in a moment thanks
hello thanks for making this possible to give lower lvl chance to grow in the game. wait ah k just send me my items xD
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Mar 22 2014, 18:51
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piyin
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QUOTE(locomatriz90 @ Mar 22 2014, 15:55)  fu fu fu sorry to respond in Spanish I'm from peru translate it in a moment thanks
hello thanks for making this possible to give lower lvl chance to grow in the game. wait ah k just send me my items xD
As a general rule (in all the forums) English is the main language you have to use to post, but if ya have problems you can translate them (google translator is there for something i think), so dont worry and try your best. (Translation) Usa ingles o un traductor por que aqui otros idiomas no se permiten mucho.
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Mar 22 2014, 19:28
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Kaithera
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I know I'm a little over 200 but can I still ask for this plz?
[42113964] - Legendary Zircon Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
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Mar 22 2014, 19:37
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Lunarika
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[42051464] - Exquisite Shade Helmet of the Fleet Primary Attributes: STR DEX END AGI [41434248] - Exquisite Shocking Rapier of Slaughter Primary Attributes: STR DEX AGI [35840880] - Exquisite Ruby Force Shield of Warding Primary Attributes: STR DEX END
I hope this is the correct way to request things.
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Mar 22 2014, 20:46
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Kaithera @ Mar 22 2014, 18:28)  I know I'm a little over 200 but can I still ask for this plz?
[42113964] - Legendary Zircon Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
you can surely ask, but how to help godslayer is still object of discussion so i can't assure nothing. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 22 2014, 20:52
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Mar 22 2014, 23:24
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 22 2014, 11:46)  you can surely ask, but how to help godslayer is still object of discussion so i can't assure nothing.
It seems the discussions are over - in favour of helping out the Godslayers... What heart-rending story did you hear to decide in favour of giving that Legendary armour to the player who can make 300k bid in an auction? This post has been edited by zen_zen: Mar 22 2014, 23:36
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Mar 22 2014, 23:41
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 22 2014, 22:24)  It seems the discussions are over - in favour of helping out the Godslayers...
What heart-rending story did you hear to decide in favour of giving that Legendary armour to the player who can make 300k bid in an auction?
a Leg shade moreover... i'm wondering it myself, and also who sent the items these past 3 or 4 days, especially without updating cooldown list... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 22 2014, 23:44
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Mar 23 2014, 00:36
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 22 2014, 14:41)  a Leg shade moreover... i'm wondering it myself, and also who sent the items these past 3 or 4 days, especially without updating cooldown list... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) The problem with bending the rules here and there means, soon there are no rules. A Godslayer who has played through 200+ levels couldn't possibly be in dire straits. You can accumulate bazaar fodders by the hundreds which should be worth about 3 - 500c per piece. Purging one's inventory can scrounge up 100 to 200k, players like that need a handout? It's bloody ridiculous!
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Mar 23 2014, 01:05
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Beryl
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 22 2014, 17:36)  The problem with bending the rules here and there means, soon there are no rules. A Godslayer who has played through 200+ levels couldn't possibly be in dire straits. You can accumulate bazaar fodders by the hundreds which should be worth about 3 - 500c per piece. Purging one's inventory can scrounge up 100 to 200k, players like that need a handout? It's bloody ridiculous!
TBH I rarely get equipment drops =/
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Mar 23 2014, 01:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Beryl @ Mar 23 2014, 00:05)  TBH I rarely get equipment drops =/
neither do i, and they are usually average or fair (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) btw, your name is red, what does it mean? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) never mind, autoanswered This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 01:13
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Mar 23 2014, 01:14
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Beryl
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It means I get a lot of PMs lol
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Mar 23 2014, 01:15
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Beryl @ Mar 23 2014, 00:14)  It means I get a lot of PMs lol
ahahahah, you wanted that title? then you deserve them! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Mar 23 2014, 01:16
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brewdonkey
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The idea of this shop is great but to be honest it disgusts me. You have some extremely high-level equipment and upper mid-range stuff too that costs a lot of credits. For instance there is a pair of Magnificent Shade Boots of the Arcanist listed for free that I had to pay almost 500k for a similar set. Now some dickhead newb (no offense) can just waltz in here with their hands open to get them for free? I had to play my ass off to build up that many credits. How is this fair to those of us that had to do it the hard way? How is something that is not earned valued? I think anything above exquisite should come with a hefty price tag to ensure it isn't wasted and to prevent fraud. Just sayin'.
Oh and another thing: by giving equipment of this caliber away for free you have essentially nullified all of our shops. That is why we aren't selling much equipment these days. Good luck selling a superior anything or even most exquisites for that matter. You guys need to charge something or you're going to run all of us shop owners out of business for the most part.
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Mar 23 2014, 01:24
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(brewdonkey @ Mar 23 2014, 00:16)  The idea of this shop is great but to be honest it disgusts me. You have some extremely high-level equipment and upper mid-range stuff too that costs a lot of credits. For instance there is a pair of Magnificent Shade Boots of the Arcanist listed for free that I had to pay almost 500k for a similar set. Now some dickhead newb (no offense) can just waltz in here with their hands open to get them for free? I had to play my ass off to build up that many credits. How is this fair to those of us that had to do it the hard way? How is something that is not earned valued? I think anything above exquisite should come with a hefty price tag to ensure it isn't wasted and to prevent fraud. Just sayin'.
quite rare to see you out of certain shops... well, the initial purpose was to help newbies like wolfgirl did, but the situation is rapidly escalating: certainly is true that a mag arcanist isn't something cut for a newbie, but if people donate them we have to put them in list. maybe a good compromise could be to ristrict donations to sup-exq range and use leg only as prizes for lotteries... QUOTE(brewdonkey @ Mar 23 2014, 00:16)  Oh and another thing: by giving equipment of this caliber away for free you have essentially nullified all of our shops. That is why we aren't selling much equipment these days. Good luck selling a superior anything or even most exquisites for that matter. You guys need to charge something or you're going to run all of us shop owners out of business for the most part.
no need to say it, half of staff members have their own shops... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 23 2014, 01:28
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Mar 23 2014, 01:35
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brewdonkey
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 23 2014, 00:24)  quite rare to see you out of certain shops... well, the initial purpose was to help newbies like wolfgirl did, but the situation is rapidly escalating: certainly is true that a mag arcanist isn't something cut for a newbie, but if people donate them we have to put them in list. maybe a good compromise could be to ristrict donations to sup-exq range and use leg only as prizes for lotteries...
I troll around. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) [maybe a good compromise could be to ristrict donations to sup-exq range and use leg only as prizes for lotteries] That's kind of what I was thinking. The concept of this shop is great and I have no problem helping people out; however, you guys are dealing out some high end stuff compared to Wolfgirl. I've been meaning to have the same conversation with her, too. I think only Exquisite and below should be for free. Mag and up should be for lottery purposes. Otherwise those of us trying to earn credits (without trying to rip people off) like myself won't be left with equipment collecting dust. I think your suggestion(s) might help, though. I understand where you guys are coming from and I'm on your side. I just want to see the playing field a little more fair for everyone. Why should a level 30 player be walking around with a Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter in his hand that he didn't earn while the rest of us have to wait years to acquire something like that? This post has been edited by brewdonkey: Mar 23 2014, 01:37
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Mar 23 2014, 01:39
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piyin
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 22 2014, 23:24)  It seems the discussions are over - in favour of helping out the Godslayers...
What heart-rending story did you hear to decide in favour of giving that Legendary armour to the player who can make 300k bid in an auction?
What? Where? When does it happened? "ERROR 666 - Memo not Found" i found it hard to eat the idea of helping level 200 and up, as they will mostly just ask for legendaries and good ones (like the shade of discord that has been post recently), but as this part havent changed: Please note: until we've had a chance to talk to all staff members we're putting a hold on selling items to players over level 200. There are a few purposes and we are actually evaluating them. The problem is all these items were donated to help new players, but we've suddenly got a lot of interest from veterans seeing things they want: the last thing any of us want to do is upset the people who did donate by selling their item to a level 300 player as opposed to donate it as they presumed we would... We're much more likely to go along the route of item exchanges/redeeming tickets rather than credit purchase, but we still have to define some things. Stuff is STILL on HOLD... so until this matter changes on the same rules... i guess we must abide for this part and do nothing that can be... i dont know... like a forceful desicion, and thats the way i think.
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Mar 23 2014, 01:54
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(brewdonkey @ Mar 23 2014, 00:35)  I troll around. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) [maybe a good compromise could be to ristrict donations to sup-exq range and use leg only as prizes for lotteries] That's kind of what I was thinking. The concept of this shop is great and I have no problem helping people out; however, you guys are dealing out some high end stuff compared to Wolfgirl. I've been meaning to have the same conversation with her, too. I think only Exquisite and below should be for free. Mag and up should be for lottery purposes. Otherwise those of us trying to earn credits (without trying to rip people off) like myself won't be left with equipment collecting dust. well, as i pointed out many times we are trying to dynamically adapt to that situation, we didn't expect such big success and such high-levels donations. another thing is that we are offering a service, but obviously acquiring too much gears at lower levels would make you lose knowledge of the dynamics of the game, but actually if they ask within the limits we put - we have to send items... QUOTE(brewdonkey @ Mar 23 2014, 00:35)  I just want to see the playing field a little more fair for everyone. Why should a level 30 player be walking around with a Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter in his hand that he didn't earn while the rest of us have to wait years to acquire something like that?
actually, one of the risks is there are some higher level people maneuvering them: we already discovered one case and are inquiring another two, that's one of the purposes of item tracker but botters seem not to have understood it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 23 2014, 01:54
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animeai
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It's difficult to please everybody...
When I thought up the idea of this shop, including the lotteries for donators I thought it would simply be a bit of fun. I have a healthy income from my H@H farm so throwing a few hundred hath here and there was no big deal. I would never have the time to run a free shop myself so having it shared seemed like the ideal solution.
I never in a million years expected items of the caliber we have to be donated... Legendary shade? I'm paying and/or offering silly money in the 5-20 million range for the legendary shade I'm trying to collect at the moment :/ While a 250k item to me is nothing special I'm pretty sure a couple of the items we have are pushing at least the 1000k mark. The problem is, they were donated free on the understanding they would be distributed to new players... Because they were donated somebody thought that the item was either worthless or valued too low to bother trying to sell themselves. This has left us between a rock and a rather hard place...
The concept is great but if anything the generosity of players is starting to become our undoing already! What a crazy situation to be in!
This leaves the question of course... what do we do? New players struggle to earn credits. Old players see Exq and below as worthless - even many mags are falling into that category now. Legendary has to have the right stats to be more than a collectors piece. Peerless is peerless but that goes without saying lol. TenB could add a new item rank to the game to re-ignite old passions but in a very short space of time we'd end up in the same situation again - all the old players have all the money and if an item is not perfect it's virtually worthless.
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Mar 23 2014, 02:00
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zen_zen
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@piyin,
Please refer to post #341 then check the Infinite Cooldown list on page 1.
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