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Changes to Dawn Event/Random Encounters, Because some people always have to ruin it for everyone else |
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Dec 22 2013, 08:48
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Kelvren
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Kinda sucks that people abuse stuff. *shrugs* guess thats what happens the more successful a site gets...
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Dec 22 2013, 10:57
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iwonttellyou
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Hello. See you in next 30 days.
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Dec 22 2013, 11:09
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(masamunemaniac @ Dec 22 2013, 02:38)  Huh, I thought the 200-300 or so credits you got from the Dawn event was already a negligible amount... It kinda is, until you multiply it by literally thousands of accounts.
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Dec 22 2013, 11:35
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The FoX
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Forcing to post on the forum does not seem an acceptable solution to prevent abuses. You can also actively participate in tagging only. But the obligation to post is wrong for me. It would be better to monitor the account to eliminate the multi-accounts.
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Dec 22 2013, 12:32
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(The FoX @ Dec 22 2013, 10:35)  But the obligation to post is wrong for me. The point is that when you have to first sign up and then post in order to gain anything, you have to solve two different kinds of captchas first, which vastly increases the work involved with getting accounts up and running. It also makes it far more obvious. You don't get that with the other methods. The 30-day thing is mostly because the user system already had a cached method to calculate that, which among other things is used for the EXP calculation, but I may change that at some point.
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Dec 22 2013, 13:33
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moonflow
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 22 2013, 10:09)  It kinda is, until you multiply it by literally thousands of accounts.
To create lots of accounts just to cheat because they can? Oh, this makes me really sad! It's not even possible to gain something meaningful from it. Besides of the feeling of grandness because you managed to triumph over a bunch of hentai fans hanging out and having some fun with a little game called HentaiVerse. On a second thought, does this mean that we in fact only have a few thousands of real members and all those fake accounts are just air bubbles?
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Dec 22 2013, 13:38
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Balphegor
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1 post/30days it's ok.
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Dec 22 2013, 13:41
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masamunemaniac
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 22 2013, 09:09)  QUOTE(masamunemaniac @ Dec 22 2013, 01:38)  Huh, I thought the 200-300 or so credits you got from the Dawn event was already a negligible amount... It kinda is, until you multiply it by literally thousands of accounts. Seems like getting rid of it would be an easier solution then - hardly impacts the people playing legitimately (and has been more than made up for with the increase in RE frequency and credit drop multiplier), but kills off dawn farming entirely. QUOTE(moonflow @ Dec 22 2013, 11:33)  To create lots of accounts just to cheat because they can? Oh, this makes me really sad! It's not even possible to gain something meaningful from it.
They could trade the credits for GP for heavy browsing, or Hath for browsing perks, or pay for bounties with it, and just ignore the game element entirely. I'd consider it more likely that they're cheating the game with it, sure, but it's entirely possible that they're using it for donor perks instead.
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Dec 22 2013, 13:56
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(moonflow @ Dec 22 2013, 12:33)  On a second thought, does this mean that we in fact only have a few thousands of real members and all those fake accounts are just air bubbles? How can there be 1.7 million accounts when there are only 7 million people in the world? Srsly though, most are "real". It's hard to estimate exactly how many duplicates there are, but like I said, the vast, vast majority do play "fair". It's only a handful of bad apples we have to apply countermeasures for.
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Dec 22 2013, 15:41
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moonflow
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 22 2013, 12:56)  How can there be 1.7 million accounts when there are only 7 million people in the world?
There are more than 7 million people in the world (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) but if this would be the case, everybody would have guessed that E-Hentai wouldn't be granted with 1,7 million members. There will always be people creating loopholes in countermeasures but as long it's "only" such benefits this hopefully isn't going to harm the site itself too much.
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Dec 22 2013, 16:07
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killerinsidee
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It can't be helped, i guess :/
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Dec 22 2013, 17:07
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m118w11
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 22 2013, 11:09)  It kinda is, until you multiply it by literally thousands of accounts.
Ow wow I was wondering about the scope... if you make 10,000 accounts then that is an epic 2 million a day. Although isn't it obvious when people multi-account? Can you see one IP logging in, triggering event, sending credits to X account, then logging off, thousands of times?
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Dec 22 2013, 17:43
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Amaduyu Mitsumi
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I think people can and will do anything to mask their misbehavior, as long as the results are profitable enough.
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Dec 22 2013, 20:04
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ Dec 22 2013, 15:07)  Ow wow I was wondering about the scope... if you make 10,000 accounts then that is an epic 2 million a day. Although isn't it obvious when people multi-account? Can you see one IP logging in, triggering event, sending credits to X account, then logging off, thousands of times? You could create a script that logs into e-hentai.org and triggers the dawn. Then you could use a service like, say, amazon web servises and ask for an algorithm that uses many machines. Upload that script, which gets replicated to all the machines, and run it. You get 500 different IPs accessing e-hentai.org without spending much money (AWS is pretty cheap, and there are even cheaper alternatives).
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Dec 22 2013, 22:49
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teenyman45
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The Riddlemaster change caught me completely by surprise. I thought something had broke with the update to 0.78.
The new dawn event bot spamming seeks fairly surprising though... and also very easy to track the credit transfers.
Now for the legitimate players we just need an easy non-bitcoin system for server rental because Uncle Sam hates BtC and spending $30-50 in fees to do transfers through various European fronts/middlemen is in no way appealing.
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Dec 23 2013, 00:01
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janusi
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Probably a change for the better if it was being exploited that badly. Hope nothing awful comes out of this later as well.
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Dec 23 2013, 00:05
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(teenyman45 @ Dec 22 2013, 21:49)  Now for the legitimate players we just need an easy non-bitcoin system for server rental because Uncle Sam hates BtC and spending $30-50 in fees to do transfers through various European fronts/middlemen is in no way appealing. I hear Gox has a new US partner, or so they said in their [www.mtgox.com] newsletter. We'll see if they can hold on to this one. Uhm actually, it said outside the US, nevermind.. And I guess there's always Coinbase..
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Dec 23 2013, 00:23
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(teenyman45 @ Dec 22 2013, 10:49)  Now for the legitimate players we just need an easy non-bitcoin system for server rental because Uncle Sam hates BtC and spending $30-50 in fees to do transfers through various European fronts/middlemen is in no way appealing.
I have a bitcoin dealer. I'm not in the US though.
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Dec 23 2013, 02:53
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midvalley
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 22 2013, 13:56)  How can there be 1.7 million accounts when there are only 7 million people in the world?
Billion. There's 7 billion people in the world. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Dec 23 2013, 02:57
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flint
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Dec 21 2013, 19:11)  (This does not affect people with a credit grant from donation stars.)
Ohthankgod. So botting is still an issue, eh. I see more riddlestuffs incoming.
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