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post Mar 4 2014, 11:51
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 2 2014, 14:40) *

cause some people knew it was bugged or something was not right and didn't say anything, and didn't really want to have anything said, and they also pretended there was no problem. Could be considered an expoit which is banable



People were talking about it in this thread and expert thread publicly I believe. Someone said they had briefly mentioned it to Tenboro before and claimed he said it wasn't a major issue that he might look at later. Then that thread with the guy complaining that melee was buffed too much by pfudor and everyone got a smack down. No one had mentioned buffs lasting longer till then, I didn't even notice the buffs as a mage.

For mages mechanics had already been adjusted based on current player data for pfudor so now it feels like mag/leg phase is insufficient defense unless you have it heavily forged. Casting speed is a defensive stat, so its like hey mages here take 20% more dmg. It also takes me 20% more time to complete pfudor rounds which is probably due to all the heal spamming.

Its almost feels cheaper to abandon my mage set and go melee, but I am not sure how much I'll have to forge my gear.

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post Mar 4 2014, 13:04
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 4 2014, 17:51) *

People were talking about it in this thread and expert thread publicly I believe. Someone said they had briefly mentioned it to Tenboro before and claimed he said it wasn't a major issue that he might look at later. Then that thread with the guy complaining that melee was buffed too much by pfudor and everyone got a smack down. No one had mentioned buffs lasting longer till then, I didn't even notice the buffs as a mage.

For mages mechanics had already been adjusted based on current player data for pfudor so now it feels like mag/leg phase is insufficient defense unless you have it heavily forged. Casting speed is a defensive stat, so its like hey mages here take 20% more dmg. It also takes me 20% more time to complete pfudor rounds which is probably due to all the heal spamming.

Its almost feels cheaper to abandon my mage set and go melee, but I am not sure how much I'll have to forge my gear.

No forge is needed for melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . You do not even need to have the best gear. FYI, I am still using an axe for all of my fight.
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post Mar 4 2014, 13:09
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 4 2014, 18:51) *

Casting speed is a defensive stat, so its like hey mages here take 20% more dmg.

Its almost feels cheaper to abandon my mage set and go melee, but I am not sure how much I'll have to forge my gear.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Elemetal mages are more efficient in terms of cast speed, mana, and damage than dark/holy. What's to complain about?

If you have low ping, melee is the way to go. Don't even need to forge that much.

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post Mar 4 2014, 13:36
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 4 2014, 01:09) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Elemetal mages are more efficient in terms of cast speed, mana, and damage than dark/holy. What's to complain about?


Depends, when I did the calculations for cost reduction from potency it was half of what would be expected. Likewise casting speed reduction is probably less as well.

Holy is the most popular element at the moment, killing enemies trumps everything, though the difference in that respect declines when you get to level 450 except for debuff and resistances..... Though I probably should have gone wind instead of electric. Overall different elements are probably finely balanced to be quite similar.

The changes affect all elements as well... I wasn't complaining about a specific element.

QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 4 2014, 01:09) *

If you have low ping, melee is the way to go. Don't even need to forge that much.


I think I'll stick with my current build and hope Tenboro doesn't mtgox all the mages. Phazon just seems too damn high.

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post Mar 4 2014, 13:52
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 4 2014, 03:36) *

Depends, when I did the calculations for cost reduction from potency it was half of what would be expected. Likewise casting speed reduction is probably less as well.

Holy is the most popular element at the moment, killing enemies trumps everything, though the difference in that respect declines when you get to level 450 except for debuff and resistances..... Though I probably should have gone wind instead of electric. Overall different elements are probably finely balanced to be quite similar.

The changes affect all elements as well... I wasn't complaining about a specific element.
I think I'll stick with my current build and hope Tenboro doesn't mtgox all the mages. Phazon just seems too damn high.


Sometimes I think I should have gone with electric instead of wind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But it's too late to change now. Resist is just my biggest irritant in the game these days; I almost wish it was replaced with the old system, but it was probably much more annoying than I remember it being.
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post Mar 4 2014, 14:05
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interface bug: long name + personal name from lv10 does not fit in form.
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post Mar 4 2014, 16:13
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Mar 4 2014, 20:05) *

interface bug: long name + personal name from lv10 does not fit in form.

link just in case.


It's okay on firefox. Font size issue?

Edit: Also okay on chrome.

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post Mar 4 2014, 16:54
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Mar 4 2014, 06:05) *

interface bug: long name + personal name from lv10 does not fit in form.
(IMG:https://forums.e-hentai.org/uploads/post-106990-1393934368.png)
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It looks fine to me...

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post Mar 4 2014, 17:39
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It cuts off in popup windows.
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post Mar 4 2014, 17:56
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Here is how I see it always when names are too long in Firefox. With Hentaiverse font engine (the standard)
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post Mar 4 2014, 23:11
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^oh, i forgot about font settings:Calibry,12,bold,,-4.
Chrome 31.

But with default HentaiVerse Font Engine almost same problem, exactly as here:
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(IMG:[img15.hostingpics.net] http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/496526BadreadPeerless.jpg)

Here is how I see it always when names are too long in Firefox. With Hentaiverse font engine (the standard)
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post Mar 5 2014, 01:43
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My staff does the same thing with the default font.
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post Mar 5 2014, 02:18
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 4 2014, 20:36) *

Depends, when I did the calculations for cost reduction from potency it was half of what would be expected. Likewise casting speed reduction is probably less as well.


Just curious, do you have hard numbers for this? I do know that there is a limit for mana reduction via prof.

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 4 2014, 20:36) *

Holy is the most popular element at the moment, killing enemies trumps everything, though the difference in that respect declines when you get to level 450 except for debuff and resistances..... Though I probably should have gone wind instead of electric. Overall different elements are probably finely balanced to be quite similar.

The changes affect all elements as well... I wasn't complaining about a specific element.
I think I'll stick with my current build and hope Tenboro doesn't mtgox all the mages. Phazon just seems too damn high.


I think holy is popular bc of the benefit to cure. Also, if your magic score is super high, differences between elemental mages dont matter that much (can you PM me your magic score?) Which means I think you should start forging those Mag/Leg Phases. Aren't you rich anyways? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 5 2014, 02:46
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 4 2014, 22:04) *

No forge is needed for melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . You do not even need to have the best gear. FYI, I am still using an axe for all of my fight.


Well melee gear is more expensive. And shield forging is kinda necessary (not so much if you're using rapier, but then again rapier is even more expensive)

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post Mar 5 2014, 02:49
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 4 2014, 06:13) *

It's okay on firefox. Font size issue?

Edit: Also okay on chrome.

Regardless of if it was a font size issue (I've had quite a few cutoff issues when trying to fiddle with font sizes before), I wonder if Tenboro can be bothered to fix it or if it is not worth his time.
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post Mar 5 2014, 02:57
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 5 2014, 09:46) *

Well melee gear is more expensive. And shield forging is kinda necessary (not so much if you're using rapier, but then again rapier is even more expensive)


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I think mage gear is more expensive. Leg Slaught = 10-20m, Leg Shadowdancer = 5-10m, Leg Phase = 20m+, Leg Staff = 20-40m, Leg demonic rapier = 20m. I'm pretty sure no one will pay 30m for any melee armor, equivalent to your Leg Fenrir robe.
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post Mar 5 2014, 03:03
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 5 2014, 11:57) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I think mage gear is more expensive. Leg Slaught = 10-20m, Leg Shadowdancer = 5-10m, Leg Phase = 20m+, Leg Staff = 20-40m, Leg demonic rapier = 20m. I'm pretty sure no one will pay 30m for any melee armor, equivalent to your Leg Fenrir robe.


Well I haven't even seen a Leg Slaughter with LMAX ADB, which would be the equivalent of that Leg Fenrir (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 5 2014, 03:23
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 5 2014, 10:03) *

Well I haven't even seen a Leg Slaughter with LMAX ADB, which would be the equivalent of that Leg Fenrir (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


30m for Lmax EDB and <SupInt? Radiant or Mmax INT/WIS might have made it 50+m. That would be a dream to have one in my set.
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post Mar 5 2014, 03:29
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Seeing all this makes me really glad I switched to wind while elemental was very unpopular. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 5 2014, 03:50
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