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free speech?, say anything. ANYTHING. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!! |
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Dec 21 2023, 13:05
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 20 2023, 21:23) I happen to partially agree, but only because I think I am relaxed enough about gender to not give a fuck if someone calls me 'he' or 'she' or whatever.
Its a problem with external validation of self esteem. People that rely entirely on external validation either tend to be toxic to others or psychologically fragile. Self esteem and self conceptualization entirely based on external validation is fleeting and fragile. This is why you have people that self destruct and go ballistic when someone accidentally uses a wrong pronoun or their old name. Dead naming in the drag queen community was considered rude or bitchy but it wasn't a hate crime. QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 20 2023, 21:23) Anyway, this person didn't even know what being transgender was until high school, but had harbored such feelings for a long time before then, if they are to be believed.
The probability of being consistently trans is vanishingly low, but not zero. The probability of rapid onset gender dysphoria and retroactively reassessing memories is very high, but not 100%.
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Dec 21 2023, 14:19
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AhumanRS
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hopefully every guy becomes gay so I can enjoy infinite sex exploit
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Dec 21 2023, 14:39
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Dec 21 2023, 02:19) hopefully every guy becomes gay so I can enjoy infinite sex exploit
You can just go to the right bars during pride month for that.
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Dec 21 2023, 15:39
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AhumanRS
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 21 2023, 06:39) You can just go to the right bars during pride month for that.
NO THAT ISNT WHAT I MEANT
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Dec 21 2023, 16:01
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Dec 20 2023, 20:25) trannies are a fad
Yes QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 21 2023, 01:23) Nah; I'd rather just kill myself.
Yes
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Dec 21 2023, 21:00
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 21 2023, 06:05) Its a problem with external validation of self esteem. People that rely entirely on external validation either tend to be toxic to others or psychologically fragile. Self esteem and self conceptualization entirely based on external validation is fleeting and fragile.
This is why you have people that self destruct and go ballistic when someone accidentally uses a wrong pronoun or their old name. The person I am talking about is fine with it if they aren't meaning badly. QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 21 2023, 06:05) Dead naming in the drag queen community was considered rude or bitchy but it wasn't a hate crime. The probability of being consistently trans is vanishingly low, but not zero. The probability of rapid onset gender dysphoria and retroactively reassessing memories is very high, but not 100%. [citation needed] - I am not that person, so I don't think I can claim to know how they think. I agree what you are stating is plausible, but I don't know about where you are getting numbers from. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 21 2023, 21:27
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Dec 21 2023, 23:51
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Start calling someone a dumbass every time you see them. If they complain it's rude or disrespectful, condescendingly tell them they aren't supposed to depend on external validation. If they do believe in themselves without external validation, go around telling everyone how that makes them delusional. Whatever you do, keep trying to gaslight them and make everything their fault.
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Dec 22 2023, 04:06
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 21 2023, 09:00) [citation needed]
Priscilla Queen of the Desert. QUOTE(Necromusume @ Dec 21 2023, 11:51) Start calling someone a dumbass every time you see them. If they complain it's rude or disrespectful, condescendingly tell them they aren't supposed to depend on external validation. If they do believe in themselves without external validation, go around telling everyone how that makes them delusional. Whatever you do, keep trying to gaslight them and make everything their fault.
That's complicated here. You can call your friends dumbass usually if you are same gender. Or you can give excessive complements as well. However if the gender x friend matrix is incorrect then its now a hate crime. Also if you insult someone because you think they are a friend but they do not, then its potentially gaslighting which is also a crime and should be reported to the UN Human rights commission. People usually don't go around arbitrarily insulting people, majority of people want to have a basic level politeness. So what will happen is people will just avoid anyone non-binary or with different pronouns due to the risk of accidentally committing a hate crime. Here its now an offense if the person perceives it as an offense even if you did not intentionally mean to offend. People are not psychic, people will just avoid interactions as much as possible. In your example, going up to someone at random and saying you will not use their pronouns because they rely on external validation for self-esteem would be a hate crime and you would face gaol or being fired. So I doubt it would happen. Instead people will avoid them, and they may not get job opportunities as the laws become more insane. Not hiring someone because of their alternate gender status is also discrimination though.
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Dec 22 2023, 04:11
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Msgr. Radixius
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 21 2023, 20:06) Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
Based Hugo Weaving fan
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Dec 22 2023, 04:26
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 21 2023, 21:06) That's complicated here. You can call your friends dumbass usually if you are same gender. Or you can give excessive complements as well. However if the gender x friend matrix is incorrect then its now a hate crime.
Also if you insult someone because you think they are a friend but they do not, then its potentially gaslighting which is also a crime and should be reported to the UN Human rights commission.
People usually don't go around arbitrarily insulting people, majority of people want to have a basic level politeness. So what will happen is people will just avoid anyone non-binary or with different pronouns due to the risk of accidentally committing a hate crime. Here its now an offense if the person perceives it as an offense even if you did not intentionally mean to offend. People are not psychic, people will just avoid interactions as much as possible.
In your example, going up to someone at random and saying you will not use their pronouns because they rely on external validation for self-esteem would be a hate crime and you would face gaol or being fired. So I doubt it would happen. Instead people will avoid them, and they may not get job opportunities as the laws become more insane. Not hiring someone because of their alternate gender status is also discrimination though. Whoosh? - Unsure. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Dec 22 2023, 04:26
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Dec 22 2023, 08:00
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Msgr. Radixius @ Dec 21 2023, 16:11) Based Hugo Weaving fan
QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 21 2023, 16:26) Whoosh? - Unsure.
Cause workplace bullying is bad, but the suicide rate goes up and is higher with gender affirming care which is good. Remember that time when they were misdiagnosing people with general anxiety and/or autism with gender dysphoria way back in 2021/2022.
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Dec 22 2023, 08:28
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Moonlight Rambler
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No, I don't remember that, actually. But it is a well known fact, even to trans people, that a lot of them are pretty autistic. It's possible (and probable, perhaps) to be both.
I think whoosh may have been confirmed.
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Dec 22 2023, 08:46
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 21 2023, 20:28) I think whoosh may have been confirmed.
Yes its weird how many people with diagnosed gender dysphoria have diagnosed or undiagnosed autism.
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Dec 22 2023, 10:25
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Mags_
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 22 2023, 17:46) Yes its weird how many people with diagnosed gender dysphoria have diagnosed or undiagnosed autism.
Is it though?
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Dec 22 2023, 14:21
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Mags_
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Isn't that troon who killed his mother?
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Dec 22 2023, 15:34
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Msgr. Radixius
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Raped
He raped his mother
And they LET HIM GO
NO TIME SERVED
God bless America
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Dec 23 2023, 01:06
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(Msgr. Radixius @ Dec 22 2023, 03:34) He raped his mother
And they LET HIM GO
They pleaded that the lolcow was the dependent of the mother so they would have to charge the senile old lady as well and send her to prison according to state law. So they let the lolcow off to spare the mother.
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Dec 23 2023, 07:52
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Pillowgirl
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Dec 23 2023, 09:28
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Moonlight Rambler
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Damn, I was pretty late to get to that thread this year. I think I was in the first two or three pages last year. Page 40-something this time. Thanks for the reminder though, I completely forgot (...somehow) that December is when that happens.
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