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post Apr 18 2023, 02:04
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I miss Doctor Who, its sad to see it being destroyed by this faggots.

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In other news, the Trans movement is trying to cancel the LGB alliance and the Gays against Groomers groups. They are saying that the Trans speak for the all the LGBT now, anything else is a hate crime and transphobic. LGBs are getting marginalized now.


I do wonder if/when a "civil war" between this "minorities" will happen. Its going to be interesting to watch.
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post Apr 18 2023, 06:48
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post Apr 18 2023, 06:53
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I mean, you're right, but my personal view on the matter is "OMG WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT YET ANOTHER DISNEY REMAKE."

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 17 2023, 13:06) *
In other news, the Trans movement is trying to cancel the LGB alliance and the Gays against Groomers groups. They are saying that the Trans speak for the all the LGBT now, anything else is a hate crime and transphobic. LGBs are getting marginalized now.

Alternative perspective (somewhat simplified because I am tired):

Being gay is okay now (or at least okay enough that republican/tory lawmakers don't feel like they can try to erase them anymore), but trans people didn't quite catch that same wave of acceptance when being gay became okay. So they still are facing active attempts that they perceive as aiming to undermine and dehumanize them by western governments, and have been forced to stay in the limelight even after the LGB part was allowed to leave the stage.

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post Apr 18 2023, 09:39
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Apr 17 2023, 18:53) *

Being gay is okay now (or at least okay enough that republican/tory lawmakers don't feel like they can try to erase them anymore).


At the legislative level that was like pre-70s. The main discussion for most of my life have been the degree of equality under the law in terms of rights.

edit: Joe Biden has literally funded multiple groups in different countries that expressly want to eliminate all LGBT.. but he's democrat.

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trans people didn't quite catch that same wave of acceptance when being gay became okay.


They did but it was a different group of trans. The original LGBT was a movement for equality based on sexual preferences.

The issue is that its not a sexual preference movement anymore its a gender expression movement.

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So they still are facing active attempts that they perceive as aiming to undermine and dehumanize them by western governments, and have been forced to stay in the limelight even after the LGB part was allowed to leave the stage.


They perceive not using their pronouns as hate speech and not castrating children as genocide.

I will concede that Chinese Tik Tok is geared towards literally hating and wanting to eliminate trans but that is because they set their algorithm to the opposite of what they set the US algorithm.

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post Apr 18 2023, 15:31
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"OMG WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT YET ANOTHER DISNEY REMAKE."

It was the hypocrisy I wanted to point out.

Not the shitty remake.
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post Apr 18 2023, 19:32
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post Apr 19 2023, 01:05
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post Apr 19 2023, 04:04
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Apr 18 2023, 07:39) *
At the legislative level that was like pre-70s. The main discussion for most of my life have been the degree of equality under the law in terms of rights.
Yes, but it was still clear that plenty of people were still kicking and screaming about it in the early 2010's regarding things like marriage. Those people don't get the same platform today that they had ten years ago.

Abortion and transgender issues are still suitable fuel for the outrage fire, though.

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They did but it was a different group of trans. The original LGBT was a movement for equality based on sexual preferences.
Pray tell, what was the transgender sexual preference, then?
Because not all of them are attracted to the same things.

Also I don't think you can deny that transgender people have become a much more visible political football over the last decade. I don't think that is entirely by the choice of most trans people, either. Not that there aren't also trans "Karens" out there making things worse and actively trying to draw attention - because there definitely are. Many of them have been featured on this and other threads.

But (in part) I do think this can be blamed on conservatives in some areas (North Carolina for instance) finding that opposing issues like gay marriage isn't drawing in the votes like it used to, but things like bathroom access are still drawing the moral outrage and votes that their campaigns depend on. There are plenty of people who see transgenderism as strictly a public display of perversion.

On a somewhat different subject, the ivory tower of academia needs to come crashing down.

And things like womens' studies (as they currently exist) just fuel outrage and introduce jargon that serves to isolate it and render it unable to address the general public in a meaningful way, rather than to do anything constructive to promote real changes.

Takeaway: the politics of outrage favor focusing on transgender people because it's harder to drum up the same level of anger about things like gay marriage now, but public understanding of transgenderism and the issues trans individuals face is still comparatively poor. Also Karens are a thing.

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post Apr 19 2023, 04:49
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This drag queen lives in reality.

The whole thing started when a kid or two wanted to wear a skirt to school and the psycho libs and their media outlets turned it into the shitstorm it is today. At least some trans and drag queens know what's really going on and it's refreshing to see they're still out there and starting to speak up.
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post Apr 19 2023, 05:32
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Apr 18 2023, 16:04) *

Yes, but it was still clear that plenty of people were still kicking and screaming about it in the early 2010's regarding things like marriage.


Marriage was an activist hill to climb. There was already civil union that granted the majority if not all rights. It was a dunk on Christians meme. In the post gay marriage world the vast majority of gays do not get married and the vast majority of lesbians get divorced. Once it was allowed it was something that nobody cares about anymore and barely any wanted.





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Abortion and transgender issues are still suitable fuel for the outrage fire, though.


Transgender issues for minors is an issue. I don't care what fully informed consenting adults do.

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Pray tell, what was the transgender sexual preference, then?
Because not all of them are attracted to the same things.


Originally the majority were gay or had autogynophilia.

Now I'd say for bio women they are attracted to likes and social acceptance.

For bio men, the majority are still gay or have autogynophilia. There seems to be an increased proportion that are doing it for the likes among the Z.



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Also I don't think you can deny that transgender people have become a much more visible political football over the last decade. I don't think that is entirely by the choice of most trans people, either.


The post 2012 trans are hyper politicized. In surveys and polls 60-80% identify as far left.



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Not that there aren't also trans "Karens" out there making things worse and actively trying to draw attention - because there definitely are. Many of them have been featured on this and other threads.


Is that someone that uses Karen pronouns?


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But (in part) I do think this can be blamed on conservatives in some areas (North Carolina for instance) finding that opposing issues like gay marriage isn't drawing in the votes like it used to, but things like bathroom access are still drawing the moral outrage and votes that their campaigns depend on. There are plenty of people who see transgenderism as strictly a public display of perversion.


Women fought for rights for 100 years and have many privileged rights now. If anyone can be a woman, then women no longer are privileged. From a non-political perspective, there were functional social reasons we have separate bathrooms and spaces for women separate from men. Usually for the protection of women and/or children. The first point is debatable, the second is rational.

QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Apr 18 2023, 16:04) *

On a somewhat different subject, the ivory tower of academia needs to come crashing down.

And things like womens' studies (as they currently exist) just fuel outrage and introduce jargon that serves to isolate it and render it unable to address the general public in a meaningful way, rather than to do anything constructive to promote real changes.


The post 2012 trans movement lives and breathes the jargon created by radical feminists. The idea that gender is a social construction, neo-pronouns, and cis-genders. Virtually all of it is second hand smoke.


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Takeaway: the politics of outrage favor focusing on transgender people because it's harder to drum up the same level of anger about things like gay marriage now, but public understanding of transgenderism and the issues trans individuals face is still comparatively poor. Also Karens are a thing.


Intersectionality is driving out gays and lesbians from the LGBT. It will eventually become the Non-binary and Trans brigade (NBT).

I liked the old LGBT flag. It was symbolic and united people.

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DISNEY REMAKE."
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post Apr 20 2023, 05:04
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All the lefty people saying that trans need to flee Florida because they are executing pedos now...

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post Apr 20 2023, 18:06
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Speaking of theys seeking attention for themselves



This interview is funny for all the wrong reasons. The 'comedian' melting down because they keep calling Sam Smith a guy.

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Seems he identifies as a fat couch potato dad. Or maybe a blubbery sweaty roommate you accidentally catch dancing around the living room when you come home early.
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