Looking at Tammy Slaton's diet its all the marketing BS for what is 'healthy' taken to the extreme.
Cereal is 'healthy' I'll eat a whole box Orange juice is 'healthy' I'll drink a liter for breakfast Potatoes are 'healthy' I'll eat two kg of potatoes If I add diet coke then I can eat anything else for the meal
I ate some grilled chicken for dinner so I should be losing weight.
To me fat people are (on the whole) not like the abominations (to put it lightly) that I see in this thread.
Most of the real human beings that are fat whom I meet are just kind of sad individuals that have been through a lot of bullying and negativity and just want to be seen as human beings rather than a political football. People who wish issues for overweight people had never blown up to begin with, because it was easier to come out as obese a decade ago before people became deeply polarized about it.
Even if I don't necessarily always understand them, the ones that I meet have all been nothing but sweet to me. So I don't wish them any ill will and don't really like it when i read some of the sweeping statements I read on here.
I will not deny that fat people are not (on the whole at least) "physotypical" - as an overweight person myself, I faced a fair amount of bullying. I don't think it's realistic to "end bullying" or anything of that sort, and I made it through school without much lasting trauma, but I still think that "a kinder, gentler nation" (or world, for that matter) is a place that doesn't seek to dehumanize people we are uncomfortable with.
Whenever I see the images people post in this thread and others on this board, i can say 100% truthfully that I have no desire to interact with the people pictured, and that I'd rather not look at them for very long. And I don't think anyone should be forced to support their "stunning & brave" choices. But at the same time, there are lots of people out there who don't get or want the media attention and just want to live their lives, and I think this kind of media has the potential to be extremely harmful to their own (already fragile in many cases) self-esteem and also damaging for public opinion.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, I know I can't force anyone here to stop, and I don't expect anyone will, given the nature of this board. But can we please at least remember that we are talking about real people when we use words like "landwhale?"
Can we acknowledge that some at least might have emotions and thoughts and goals as complicated as our own? That they might not actually secretly want to be seen as 'obese' first when they are a professional in their field, and that just wish they could have chosen to be born with different glandular issues and avoided being portrayed as 'different' or 'freaks' in the first place?
Even if the intent is not to dig at those people, I think many conflate the "attention whore" types with fat people at large, and I don't really want to encourage that conflation.
Most of them aren't doing harm to anyone else. Certainly most of the ones I have met are not. I can't even think of any particularly "whiny" ones I've met, to borrow a term from a prior post in this thread.
In my ideal world we would not be encouraging these people that we've been posting pictures of in this forum to partake in attention seeking behavior, and the best way to discourage them from doing that is to ignore them.
So again, I know I can't force anyone here to stop, I know that forcing people to stop (if I could) would make me the problem - but to repeat, can we please at least remember that we are talking about real people when we use words like "lard ass," and remember how demeaning it can be to a group of already psychologically vulnerable people? I can count a couple of them amongst my core group of friends, and think they deserve to be happy.
I can think of one or two obese people that have driven me away/put me into avoidance mode, but that's mostly by just not knowing others' diets and other 'extreme consumption' behavior. Sort of like why i don't like to be around people who constantly talk about being weebs in public. These people who drove me off were also recreational beer drinkers, and decisions like that which make me feel uncomfortable around them are much more likely to drive me off than simply eating a steak.
From my (somewhat nihilistic) perspective, there is no god, there is no "one true way" to live, and even if I don't want to eat competitively or mindlessly binge eat or gain weight for purely cosmetic reasons, that doesn't mean that other people are wrong for wanting that, since I'm not them and can't speak with authority on anything except what I know. If that's what it takes for people to feel better about themselves, I have no reason to want to interfere in their private lives.
In my opinion, people who don't like government regulation or interference on issues like home ownership or border control shouldn't be actively hoping to use government to artificially restrict others' rights to do what they want with their bodies and lives, even if they may personally disagree.
There are genuine things that can be debated - things like exercise for fat people. I'm not trying to say that those issues aren't real. Because they certainly are. But most fat people aren't pro athletes or trashy people on TLC shows.
You have to go up close and reach up and gently brush his curly hairs whilst he whispers how he likes how your hair smells. He loves when roaches (his nickname for little African American kids) jump on his lap.
Is calling black children roaches an American term of endearment? It doesn't sound like it.
free speech?, say anything. ANYTHING. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 3 2023, 07:02
