I'm against birth control because hormones really do fuck up women.
I don't understand catman's incessant need to rope in "republicunts"(please define) and smear them as racist as democrats.
I also don't understand dragonboy claiming religion had anything to do with this, all studies point to religion being abandoned.
A few pro-life picketers don't constitute religious fervor, especially when outnumbered by millions of leftists screeching on highways right now despite being in states that allow abortion.
This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Jun 26 2022, 16:53
I also don't understand dragonboy claiming religion had anything to do with this, all studies point to religion being abandoned.
I live in Indiana, so I still experience this regularly.
Every damn election cycle.
But I'll let Barry Goldwater answer this one. Yes, I know he's dead. And a jew. And I don't actually expect anyone to read it.
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"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise."
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Being a conservative in America traditionally has meant that one holds a deep, abiding respect for the Constitution. We conservatives believe sincerely in the integrity of the Constitution. We treasure the freedoms that document protects.
We believe, as the founding fathers did, that we "are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the prsuit of happiness."
And for 205 years this nation, based on those principles, has endured. Through foreign wars and civil wars, through political scandals and economic disasters, through civil disorders and Presidential assassinations, our flag has flown high. Through it all we've survived every possible attack on our freedom.
But another force could succeed in dividing our country. The specter of single-issue religious groups is growing over our land.
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One of the great strengths of our political system always has been our tendency to keep religious issues in the background. By maintaining the separation of church and state, the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars.
Throughout our 200-plus years, public policy debate has focused on political and economic issues, on which there can be compromise. Madison saw this as the great paradox of our system: How do you control the factions without violating the people's basic freedoms? And in a well-constructed representative Government like ours, Madison said, one of our greatest strengths is our ability to "break and control the violence of faction." Can any of us refute the wisdom of Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the bloodshed in Northern Ireland or th e bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet question the dangers of in jecting religious issues into the affairs of state?
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah or whatever one calls his Supreme Being.
But, like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing in our land are not using their religioius clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their positions 100 percent.
In the past couple years, I have seen many news items that referred to the Moral Majority, prolife and other religious groups as "the new right," and the "new conservatism." Well, I have spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the "old conservatism." And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics.
The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength.
As it is, they are diverting us away from the vital issues that our Government needs to address. Far too much of the time of members of Congress and officials in the Executive Branch is used up dealing with special-interest groups on issues like abortion, school busing, ERA, prayer in the schools and pornography. While these are important moral issues, they are secondary right now to our national security and economic survival.
I must make it clear that I don't condemn these groups for what they believe. I happen to share many of the values emphasized by these organizations.
I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate.
I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
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This unrelenting obsession with a particular goal destroys the perspective of many decent people. They have become easy prey to manipulation and misjudgment.
A prime example was the recent nomination of Sandra O'Connor as a Supreme Court Justice and the ensuing uproar over her stand on abortion.
No single issue ever should decide the fitness of a Supreme Court Justice. To think otherwise is to go against the integrity of the Constitution. There are many broad issues addressed each day by a jurist that are much more revealing of how that person might perform on the high court.
Of course, the saddest part of the whole dispute was that Judge O'Connor was attacked by these religious factions for a position she doesn't hold. She opposes abortion and said so. I firmly believe that she recognizes the authority of legislatures to regulate it.
She will make an excellent Justice of the Supreme Court. She will make President Reagan proud that he chose her as the best of all candidates, men or women.
And the religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy.
They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives. The great decisions of Government cannot be dictated by the concerns of religious factions. This was true in the days of Madison, and it is just as true today.
We have succeeded for 205 years in keeping the affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn't stop now.
To retreat from that separation would violate the principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this democratic republic.
The republican party was consumed by the religious right; "republican values" are now inextricably "christian values." No longer is it about fiscal conservatism or social conservatism; it's about religious fundamentalism and single-issue candidates.
This is something of an afterthought, but Newt Gingrich irreparably destroyed the integrity of the Republican party.
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jun 26 2022, 17:38
Abolish the Supreme Court. They are not elected by the people and they hold that position for the rest of their lives. There should be term limits. And I really hate if I turn to Fox News or Newsmax and they're calling pro-choice supporters left-wing liberals because that's by no means the case. It's actually offensive to assume that. Far more people support a woman's right to choose than oppose it. It's taking a freedom away so the Republicans are now becoming dictators, the very thing they claim they don't like.
When did Trump get to be so pro-life? I think it happened this year. Only recently during his rallies has he been mentioning protecting the lives of the unborn which is stomach-turning. Guns have more rights than women now. The religious pro-life fucktarded far right Republicans are going to lose massive votes for their party in the mid-terms because of this.
They are not elected by the people and they hold that position for the rest of their lives. There should be term limits.
Yep.
QUOTE(Honeycat @ Jun 26 2022, 20:26)
And I really hate if I turn to Fox News or Newsmax and they're calling pro-choice supporters left-wing liberals because that's by no means the case. It's actually offensive to assume that. Far more people support a woman's right to choose than oppose it. It's taking a freedom away so the Republicans are now becoming dictators, the very thing they claim they don't like. When did Trump get to be so pro-life? I think it happened this year. Only recently during his rallies has he been mentioning protecting the lives of the unborn which is stomach-turning. Guns have more rights than women now. The religious pro-life fucktarded far right Republicans are going to lose massive votes for their party in the mid-terms because of this.
Holy fuck. I agree with you about something political. Unless this is also some sort of irony I can't detect.
I think Trump was never pro life and never really will be; he just says what he needs to do to keep the religious right's support. John McCain did the same thing, as has basically every other republican candidate post-Nixon. Though he is from a catholic family, so who knows.
OTOH, if that's the case and he doesn't really care about abortion, then his supreme court pick was probably influenced by people around him. The christians have been trying to pack the court for half a century now because of this issue. I'm not convinced Trump has many strong beliefs to begin with. For better or worse he seems to very much "live in the moment."
Remember when he called second corinthians "two corinthians?"
It's not just republicans that tell their constituents what they want to hear, though. To be totally clear. Dems are masters of promising stuff and not delivering shit.
Also, I think the main reason Trump stopped being a democrat was that wealthy new york liberal elites scorned and largely rejected him as a vain hack. (And Back to the Future II's alternate-1985 Biff was an obvious Trump caricature).
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jun 27 2022, 01:26
it was wrong to outsource dangerous dual use vaccine research in the first place.
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I found a few zesty takes on this.
Yeah I was talking to one person like that. They undermined the implied right to medical privacy with the vax mandate and we can not longer define what a woman is so how can women have rights?
We are the inverse justice league, the opposite of you in every way
Evil Batman: My relationship with Robin is completely professional and non-romantic.
I liked that one. But it got me thinking. The primary difference here is that the woman wants to not have the baby. The gun seeker is actively looking to get a gun.
The one after that (the Jim one) is pretty much spot on, but the difference (they would argue) is that pregnancies happen by deliberately engaging in sex, where innocent passers-by in the grocery store can get your COVID infection. Pregnancies don't pass by cough.
The "no definition of a woman" thing is a pretty spicy take indeed.
I like these two.
Actually, if you cough some pollen, I guess you could get a tree pregnant. Why did no one ask the tree?
This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Jun 27 2022, 22:13
Next they'll be condemning men who masturbate for wasting sperm which could potentially make life. Just like in hentai when a cartoon woman says that after the man cums on something that is not her imaginary vagina. "You wasted it!" That's just how fucking stupid real life has become.
No offense to Rad who married his cartoon waifu. I married mine a few years ago. He's male and looks like a girl and we've already had 3 kittens.
Next they'll be condemning men who masturbate for wasting sperm which could potentially make life. Just like in hentai when a cartoon woman says that after the man cums on something that is not her imaginary vagina. "You wasted it!" That's just how fucking stupid real life has become.
No offense to Rad who married his cartoon waifu. I married mine a few years ago. He's male and looks like a girl and we've already had 3 kittens.
Germany has always been pressuring Biden about their pipelines to Russia but discussions even covered US domestic pipelines. Cancelling Keystone caused speculation to go through the roof.
2 Days ago: the Biden administration thanks Germany for their unprecedented support to cancel nord stream 2
Breaking news: Germany has reached deal to complete Nord Stream 2 after France and Germany told Biden to fuck off. European leaders said Zelensky is a US problem. US congress members have cancelled meetings with Zelensky saying its a Biden administration problem. Biden has committed 1 Billion to solar panels in Ukraine, which is not what Zelensky asked for.
Here is Macron trying to explain to Biden why he should re-open Keystone XL and also stop cancelling oil exploration:
Macron: You just have to re-open the pipeline and encourage exploration to boost US domestic production. You will be hero and gain back your popularity.
Biden: Sorry I am a potato.
This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Jun 28 2022, 08:21
free speech?, say anything. ANYTHING. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!
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