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post Dec 28 2021, 12:40
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 28 2021, 17:36) *

You need to reject modernity.




I still have no idea why masculine become bad thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Dec 28 2021, 13:50
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QUOTE(Ovan Kura Majutsu @ Dec 28 2021, 00:40) *

I still have no idea why masculine become bad thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


They wanted to create a feminist academic discipline in the 70s. Nothing really credible actually existed at that stage, so they co-oped linguistics academics and marxist theory to critically deconstruct everything based on idea that men are the oppressors throughout history, masculinity was bad and that women as a gender had to unite against men.

They assumed because actual misogyny existed that all men hated women and they haven't developed much or changed since. However their movement has become mainstream and well monetized. Women (despite the 'wage gap') control the majority of disposable income in Western nations and so pandering to them makes money.

True and stupid story. Women are unhappier than 100 years ago, so feminism has obviously worked.
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post Dec 28 2021, 14:16
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 28 2021, 18:50) *

They wanted to create a feminist academic discipline in the 70s. Nothing really credible actually existed at that stage, so they co-oped linguistics academics and marxist theory to critically deconstruct everything based on idea that men are the oppressors throughout history, masculinity was bad and that women as a gender had to unite against men.

They assumed because actual misogyny existed that all men hated women and they haven't developed much or changed since. However their movement has become mainstream and well monetized. Women (despite the 'wage gap') control the majority of disposable income in Western nations and so pandering to them makes money.

True and stupid story. Women are unhappier than 100 years ago, so feminism has obviously worked.


And how is feminist is a good thing? They just advocate one side and butcher the other side. I guess what they actually want is not equality but matriarchy.

Or well, everything just power play like how king in middle age use religion and now we're using sjw.

I am sure that I got canceled from this because I sound like hating woman but I just want equal chance regardless of the gender or race or whatever but oh well

Oh boi, I probably should talk about politik. I am very bad with word when comes to it.

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post Dec 28 2021, 23:46
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Lmao hot dog abortion girl quit youtube.

Fucking cunt
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post Dec 29 2021, 00:54
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QUOTE(balthy13 @ Dec 28 2021, 11:46) *

Lmao hot dog abortion girl quit youtube.

Fucking cunt



Who is that?



All I could find was Emily Letts, super abortion aficionado, who claims that abortion was a "birth like sacred experience" and filmed her process so she could encourage other birthing people to join the cult.

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post Dec 29 2021, 05:53
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 29 2021, 05:54) *

Who is that?
All I could find was Emily Letts, super abortion aficionado, who claims that abortion was a "birth like sacred experience" and filmed her process so she could encourage other birthing people to join the cult.


What? She didn't get banned for that?
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post Dec 29 2021, 07:11
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 28 2021, 16:54) *

Who is that?
All I could find was Emily Letts, super abortion aficionado, who claims that abortion was a "birth like sacred experience" and filmed her process so she could encourage other birthing people to join the cult.


Lindsay Ellis
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post Dec 29 2021, 07:59
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QUOTE(balthy13 @ Dec 28 2021, 19:11) *

Lindsay Ellis


Oh Her.

Ehhhh

She said generic Disney animation Raya and the last Dragon was a copy of Avatar the last Air-bender? That offended people?

I think they didn't like her and were just looking for something. Thats how it usually works.

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post Dec 29 2021, 10:50
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Of course she got abortions, why would she birth soy?

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post Dec 29 2021, 16:56
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QUOTE(Ovan Kura Majutsu @ Dec 28 2021, 07:16) *
And how is feminist is a good thing? They just advocate one side and butcher the other side. I guess what they actually want is not equality but matriarchy.
IDK; I think that when applied appropriately it can be a good thing - but I'd not call what you are describing as "feminism;" I'd call that sexism. There's a difference between supporting sexual/gender equality and wanting to reverse the current situation (and I think most of us can agree that there are times that exist where men are at an advantage over women).
QUOTE(Ovan Kura Majutsu @ Dec 28 2021, 07:16) *
Or well, everything just power play like how king in middle age use religion and now we're using sjw.

I am sure that I got canceled from this because I sound like hating woman but I just want equal chance regardless of the gender or race or whatever but oh well
Oh boi, I probably should talk about politik. I am very bad with word when comes to it.
From your struck-out text it sounds like you might be in agreement with me.
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They wanted to create a feminist academic discipline in the 70s. Nothing really credible actually existed at that stage, so they co-oped linguistics academics and marxist theory to critically deconstruct everything based on idea that men are the oppressors throughout history, masculinity was bad and that women as a gender had to unite against men.
It's certainly true that feminism in academia has co-opted conflict theories. But I think it is a bit of a stretch to assume that it was about women specifically uniting against men. I think many of them wanted for men to reflect on what they defined as 'masculine' and decide if some of their predispositions might be harmful to their own wellbeing, too.
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They assumed because actual misogyny existed that all men hated women and they haven't developed much or changed since.
Again, I don't think that's all feminists.
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However their movement has become mainstream and well monetized.
Late stage capitalism at work.
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Women are unhappier than 100 years ago, so feminism has obviously worked.
And now I'm sad.
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post Dec 29 2021, 22:03
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post Dec 30 2021, 01:02
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 29 2021, 04:56) *

From your struck-out text it sounds like you might be in agreement with me.It's certainly true that feminism in academia has co-opted conflict theories. But I think it is a bit of a stretch to assume that it was about women specifically uniting against men.


In academia? Radical feminism is just the feminist movement mushed together Marxism. However marxism definitely existed when the current movement gain steam after WW2. So it probably isn't too much of a stretch, especially when you look at their original slogans. The difference probably was that it was also largely a Christian movement in the west to begin with. The radical feminists since the 70s just made it more marxist.

I suppose its the current gen from the 2000s on wards that made it profitably merge with mainstream corporatism.

Late stage capitalism? Or early stage Fascism?


QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Dec 29 2021, 04:56) *

I think many of them wanted for men to reflect on what they defined as 'masculine' and decide if some of their predispositions might be harmful to their own wellbeing, too.


That was the original mainstream idea, that masculinity hurt men. A deconstruction of gender norms with social norms and tradition being the oppressor. However it really did not take long for the radicals to push the narrative that men dominated society therefore all social oppression was due to men.


I suppose what they never stopped to ask was whether any of the traditional roles or norms make men and women happy? I would like to think that generally more freedom is always good. So equality of opportunity is great.

I mean the decline in happiness could be due to other factors like diet and lifestyle.

Feminism hasn't helped in some areas. Like the pill usage has the potential to wreck women's endocrine systems but it was sold (literally) by feminists. Big Pharma: "Lol they go through menopause anyway rofl"



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I can tell you that because I didn't give a shit about football (american football) and other stuff typically associated with masculinity, I was not well received by pre-university school peers. So in that sense, no: traditional roles and norms did not make me happy. Nor did things like fraternities.

That isn't to say no "masculine" things make me happy. But I still see it as a huge waste of energy when other things interest me more.

For people who are happy with those things, that's fine, just don't try to pressure others into it.

I have mixed feelings about the up and coming generations; on one hand they seem to have some good ideals, but at the same time they appear at least as steeped in consumerism as their parents were. So I'm not sure if it'll result in anything meaningful.

Communicating with outliers on internet message boards is different than interacting with the general population.
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That was the original mainstream idea, that masculinity hurt men. A deconstruction of gender norms with social norms and tradition being the oppressor. However it really did not take long for the radicals to push the narrative that men dominated society therefore all social oppression was due to men.
There are certainly those who see it that way - but I am not convinced that most "feminists" see it that way, even today. I think it's an unfortunate case where the loud minority got the media attention for being outrageous, and ended up changing public perception of feminism as a whole.
Possibly helped by socially conservative pundits labelling those outrageous people as feminists in a successful attempt to discredit feminism.

In short, I think it's a problem of bullshit in the media primarily. I've met two people who are actually the "kill all men" type, both on IRC. Never met one IRL. And those people were both quickly blown the fuck out by people who actually had read feminist literature (mostly by asking rhetorical questions to make them sound stupid).

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post Dec 30 2021, 05:21
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Well everything started to go to shit with the advent of Tumblr and Twitter.
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post Dec 30 2021, 05:37
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Dec 30 2021, 10:21) *

Well everything started to go to shit with the advent of Tumblr and Twitter.


Also journo that trying to make click bait article and didn't give a fuck about changing the narrative and taking thing out of context
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post Dec 30 2021, 05:49
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QUOTE(Ovan Kura Majutsu @ Dec 29 2021, 17:37) *

Also journo that trying to make click bait article and didn't give a fuck about changing the narrative and taking thing out of context


Yeah, particularly for Twitter and Facebook. Radical intersectionality did great because you could create rage bait that targeted multiple groups.

Being woke is basically being in the cult of the algorithm and clickbait.
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post Dec 30 2021, 21:21
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The fact that we talk about woke and how terrible they are is like feeding the bonfire with more material to burn as this video point out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Dec 30 2021, 21:35
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The gift wrapped glitter bomb that PrincessKaguya mailed to me detonated in my living room 5 days ago. I've been hospitalized because I had accidentally inhaled large amounts of glitter and I am suffering from severe lung irritation. I can't breath. Every time I cough glitter comes out and the black nurse bitches at me about making a mess and how hard it will be to clean up.
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QUOTE(AhumanRS @ Dec 30 2021, 19:35) *
The gift wrapped glitter bomb that PrincessKaguya mailed to me detonated in my living room 5 days ago. I've been hospitalized because I had accidentally inhaled large amounts of glitter and I am suffering from severe lung irritation. I can't breath. Every time I cough glitter comes out and the black nurse bitches at me about making a mess and how hard it will be to clean up.
And I should finish the job by throwing your ass into a meat grinder.
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post Dec 30 2021, 23:23
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Dec 30 2021, 15:15) *

And I should finish the job by throwing your ass into a meat grinder.


Oh God my cock is so turgid.

Where is my purple haired cartoon wife when I need her?
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