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Oct 3 2016, 20:13
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sssss2
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22336 turns Full buff
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19937 turns No haste, no shadow veil
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Oct 3 2016, 20:36
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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seems to be a confirmation of the fact that Haste and Shadow Veil really do hinder 1H builds...
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Oct 3 2016, 20:49
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Hinoka
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 3 2016, 10:16)  450+367+38 STR 450+481+36 DEX 7437 ADB. if STR = 447, then ADB = 7433 -> 3 STR = 4 ADB -> 1 STR = 1.33 ADB if DEX = 447, then ADB = 7435 -> 3 DEX = 2 ADB -> 1 DEX = 0.67 ADB difference in ADB is negligible (2 ADB out of 7.4k? come on...), so i don't see a point in not boosting other stats as well. at your level, with such a rapier and such forge levels? amazing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Chrome is a plague. if you really, really have to use a Chrome-ish browser, give Iron a try - which is where Chrome comes out, btw. if what [ www.srware.net] this page says it's true your navigation should be a bit better. all the scripts that work on Chrome *should* be compatible with Iron too, but waiting for confirmation. Nice thanks I'll give iron a try
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Oct 3 2016, 20:58
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Born In Winter @ Oct 3 2016, 20:49)  Nice thanks I'll give iron a try
portable version is available as well. just saying.
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Oct 3 2016, 21:23
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 3 2016, 15:49)  ...52?
You're right, I'm an idiot and I missed a 0. I calculated the "ADB with crit" with the same formula of magic damage, so damage X (1+crit chance*crit bonus). 5.2 is 8k*0.001*0.65. Actually I should have wrote 4 since I should also scale it back to adb without crit (so around /(1+0.46*0.65) or something like that). QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 3 2016, 20:36)  seems to be a confirmation of the fact that Haste and Shadow Veil really do hinder 1H builds...
Well, Shadow Veil is not surprising, Haste it probably depends, at lower level I guess Haste is pretty useful for PFUDORFest.
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Oct 3 2016, 21:27
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 3 2016, 21:23)  Well, Shadow Veil is not surprising, Haste it probably depends, at lower level I guess Haste is pretty useful for PFUDORFest.
let's say that one should use one of them (or worst, both) only when surviving has really become an issue. at that point, better going slowly that not going at all.
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Oct 3 2016, 21:35
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 3 2016, 21:23)  You're right, I'm an idiot and I missed a 0. I calculated the "ADB with crit" with the same formula of magic damage, so damage X (1+crit chance*crit bonus). 5.2 is 8k*0.001*0.65. Actually I should have wrote 4 since I should also scale it back to adb without crit (so around /(1+0.46*0.65) or something like that).
Oh. I was like (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) then I realized that the order of magnitude was a bit odd (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yep, pretty much the same then, almost. But I prefer the raw damage since for 1H is hard to get Crit Chance > 50% without forging a little bit. So you get a little more non-crits than crits, and ADB matters a bit more than Crit. Only a little. (plus counters and strikes don't crit) QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 3 2016, 21:23)  Well, Shadow Veil is not surprising, Haste it probably depends, at lower level I guess Haste is pretty useful for PFUDORFest.
From my experience, Haste is more "hindering" than Shadow Veil when the number of monsters is low, like in the first rounds of arenas. When the number of monster is high, Haste reduces the counters but not enough to go below 3/4 counters per turn, so the OC builds correctly. And SV becomes more "hindering" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Anyway, Haste is the first defensive layer a 1H player should raise in some situations (deep IW, deep PFUDORfest, stop), since at high rounds it slows down only because of the turn you cast it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) SV is more complicated, but if your name is not sssss2 or a fully forged player, you may need it a couple of times sooner or later, at least on pfudorfest In the last weeks I did some peerless IW rounds and I managed to almost never resort to SV, even on 95+ round (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Haste a little more...it gives a lot of tankiness, quite a lot. Surprisingly a lot. This post has been edited by ppp82p: Oct 3 2016, 21:40
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Oct 3 2016, 22:06
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 3 2016, 21:35)  In the last weeks I did some peerless IW rounds and I managed to almost never resort to SV, even on 95+ round (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) you made me remember that last time i used SV was while playing with DW build
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Oct 4 2016, 00:24
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Oct 3 2016, 21:35)  When the number of monster is high, Haste reduces the counters but not enough to go below 3/4 counters per turn, so the OC builds correctly.
You only need 1 counter to get the OC build-up (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Problem is that with 4-5 monsters you often end up with 3 out of 5 stunned, so haste/shadow veil can make the difference between 1 counter and 0. Anyway, unlocked Free-Flowing Dust.
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Oct 4 2016, 00:26
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 4 2016, 00:24)  You only need 1 counter to get the OC build-up (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) What if you get parried? And with only 1 counter, the cannon every 3 rounds, you can forget it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by ppp82p: Oct 4 2016, 00:26
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Oct 4 2016, 00:35
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 4 2016, 00:24)  Anyway, unlocked Free-Flowing Dust.
to think that i'm thinking whether to unlock DD or not (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 02:55
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RoadShoe
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 3 2016, 15:52)  A common trash Leg waki of nimble is much much better than your offhand weapon. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Ha! Gee! Thanks!!! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 3 2016, 19:16)  450+367+38 STR 450+481+36 DEX 7437 ADB. if STR = 447, then ADB = 7433 -> 3 STR = 4 ADB -> 1 STR = 1.33 ADB if DEX = 447, then ADB = 7435 -> 3 DEX = 2 ADB -> 1 DEX = 0.67 ADB difference in ADB is negligible (2 ADB out of 7.4k? come on...), so i don't see a point in not boosting other stats as well. at your level, with such a rapier and such forge levels? amazing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Chrome is a plague. if you really, really have to use a Chrome-ish browser, give Iron a try I'm surprised I've struggle too. I've thrown a ton of credits into improving my character. It'll probably even out in a hundred levels, and the character will be a beast. Who knows? And I've never even heard of Iron. QUOTE(Logii @ Oct 3 2016, 19:47)  In that case, assuming your signature about hath perks is up to date, I suggest you postpone your Tokenizer purchase and buy at least Innate Arcana III, maybe even IV. Then you put Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Haste and Shadow Veil (if you unlock IA IV) to autocast and keep Protection up by casting it manually. All of these spells should be on at all times, make sure to also invest ability points to max all of the supportive abilities you use. Mana cost will not be an issue with Arcanist armor, RR perk, IA mana cost reduction and Gold Star regeneration. This should allow you to play at least on Nintendo or IWBTH with relative ease.
For PFUDOR you will probably need a better off hand weapon (and perhaps more Overpower for better experience). Good option for off hand weapon is a Wakizashi of the Nimble (in my opinion the best off hand with a Rapier of Slaughter).
The main thing is that you need to play at least on Hell difficulty to avoid getting the loot drop frequency penalty.
I keep a note pad open to determine where I'm sitting with that thousand rounds. Total pain. But I'm truly trying to keep my level low while I buy myself into a beast of a character. As I said above... Think what it would be right now if I was a hundred levels higher. I'm taking all your advice Logii, every single point you just said, I'm going to do. If you're wrong, I'm going to tell Piyin you didn't follow the rules, (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) and then watch the fireworks eating popcorn. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 07:06
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someloser1
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shitpost
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Oct 4 2016, 10:33
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Ezekyle
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Level 381 from yesterday's Dawn of a New Day.
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Oct 4 2016, 11:04
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Kadokura
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Lv.430 It took me a whole month to go from lv.420 to 430. At this pace it will take me 7 months to reach lv.500, or at least that's what I hope, unless I lose motivation to keep playing HV, like certain someone. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 13:33
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Usagi =
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No Kadokura! Not you too. I was browsing the forums in public and since I didn't saw ppp's name, I proceed to browse down...... Luckily no one was around. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 14:07
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 4 2016, 13:33)  No Kadokura! Not you too. I was browsing the forums in public and since I didn't saw ppp's name, I proceed to browse down......
It's getting harder and harder to browse the forums at work (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 15:15
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Kadokura @ Oct 4 2016, 16:04)  Lv.430 It took me a whole month to go from lv.420 to 430. At this pace it will take me 7 months to reach lv.500, or at least that's what I hope, unless I lose motivation to keep playing HV, like certain someone. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) hey (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) remember that higher lvl need much more exp , especially 480+ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 4 2016, 15:46
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-The Dashing Dash-
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Oct 4 2016, 07:33)  No Kadokura! Not you too. I was browsing the forums in public and since I didn't saw ppp's name, I proceed to browse down...... Luckily no one was around. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) You know you can hide avatars and signatures if you want to right? Just go to control panel then board settings
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