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I'm still getting occasional lag spikes, more often during certain times of the day. Yesterday was so bad that I could barely get through the final round of my last Item World run, and I was thinking maybe the game would glitch out and I could get Astral Strike! Well, I got the next closest thing, so I've been quite lucky with Item World this season.

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Mystical Typhoon Rapier of the Banshee Fatality 5, Overpower 4, zero amnesia shards used, nice waki IW, this is Legendary rolled in all stats and clearly beat out my Magnificent Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter, plus I discovered Banshee suffix rocks in the Tower
Mystical Resplendent Body of the Banshee Holyproof 5, Coldproof 5, three amnesia shards used, awesome two-potency and the exact elements I wanted, paid 327k to Pretty anon, this was such a better deal than Legendary Agile Buckler of the Barrier for 2.3m
Legendary Tentacle Blade - Soul Edge Dark Strike, Butcher 3, Fatality 2, Overpower 4, eight amnesia shards used but can't complain to get that element in isekai where you need to accept what you get, Squid probably won't be as broken as Banshee but we shall see

Actually my isekai luck has been miraculous as I've had a demonic or dark ethereal rapier in every season, usually legendary. I pray that I am not using up all my Dark Strike luck, because as it stands like 50% of all legendary rapiers I've dropped lifetime have been demonic or ethereal, and like 70% of all my ethereal IW runs ended up with Dark Strike. I also bought and use some expensive demonic and pre-IW'ed dark strike rapiers, so maybe the game remembers what I prefer and keeps giving it to me when I make my own? Other people occasionally bang their heads doing IW but I've generally gotten exactly what I want, often with minimal time and amnesia shards.

Finally got the last piece I needed for my soon-to-be 2H set.
I became green when I saw someone else coveting that lottery prize.

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This post has been edited by KitsuneAbby: Oct 31 2023, 20:02

Congrats on your lottery win and full peerl set!
I remember searching for stuffs and reading in very old posts, like from before I even started playing, about you building such a set, merely as an idea, a wish basically, so it being a reality now is nice.

peerless weapon

what you got peerless weapon let me see it

Actually my isekai luck has been miraculous as I've had a demonic or dark ethereal rapier in every season, usually legendary. I pray that I am not using up all my Dark Strike luck, because as it stands like 50% of all legendary rapiers I've dropped lifetime have been demonic or ethereal, and like 70% of all my ethereal IW runs ended up with Dark Strike. I also bought and use some expensive demonic and pre-IW'ed dark strike rapiers, so maybe the game remembers what I prefer and keeps giving it to me when I make my own? Other people occasionally bang their heads doing IW but I've generally gotten exactly what I want, often with minimal time and amnesia shards.

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I'm averaging almost 1 self-dropped Legendary Demonic/Ethereal Rapier in every isekai season now, and maybe exactly 1 including purchases. My lifetime demonic/ethereal bias skews even further.

My first Legendary Rapier of Slaughter isekai drop, and my only lifetime Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter drop. Having exactly 4 Strength and 4 Agility equal is quite beautiful and if this had been in Persistent then I would surely have kept this rapier forever, and it would have been worth only a few hundred thousand credits.

In isekai, looking at its decent stats, which also do not fit my personal preferences aside from the str/agi, plus the fact that it must become imbedded into your body, it shall go byebye. May it transform into a floor 100 tower climber's Soul Calibur to vanquish my wicked Soul Edge.

P.S. - I just bought Yamato 2199 for $15 from Cornbread Stuf on November 1, and this rapier came out of Yamato. I wonder if it can sell for $15 (about 11.5 million credits) that would be funny. Probably not. It would be better to offer for the Peerless Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter. Another funny price might be 7.777m because then it would roughly correspond to the purchase cost of the rapier that I use in persistent, except the good version instead of evil. I don't need that much money though, might instead give or lend it away for free. Although I am really poor at the moment. My isekai character currently has more credits than my persistent character (who has no legitimate honest way to make any credits, especially with juices taken away from poor players).

P.S.S. - Wait, Soul Calibur already exists! The first and hallmark Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter of this isekai season already truly turned into Soul Calibur. Sold at auction for 12m. Haha it even has the exact same Condition and almost the exact same Item World as my Soul Edge. Someone tell イレイナ to name his sword!

I Reached 220 lvl

I just bid some Millions Credits for a Force Shield which doesn't have any Damage Mitigations besides Dark. Yikes.
But hey, at least it has almost 100 % block and has SDE (for whatever reason, it seems seems to be the best for shields).

Just finished a Penetrator 5 Spellweaver 4 Item World. Took about 85 shards. Don't know what the average is so I don't know it that good or bad luck. I maxed out the staff's (relevant) forging about halfway though.

Just finished a Penetrator 5 Spellweaver 4 Item World. Took about 85 shards. Don't know what the average is so I don't know it that good or bad luck. I maxed out the staff's (relevant) forging about halfway though.

EVery good luck. The average is way higher than that IIRC.

EVery good luck. The average is way higher than that IIRC.

With or without the Hath Perk? Forgot to mention I have Dark Descent.

With or without the Hath Perk? Forgot to mention I have Dark Descent.

yeah without doing the math, in my experience everything below 200 amnesias (with DD) is good

Today's SPL clear bonus is 3 legendary armor cores.

You gain 1000 Credits!
You gain 0.001 points of heavy armor proficiency.
You gain 0.001 points of one-handed weapon proficiency.
You gain 151799698 EXP!
Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
Battle Clear Bonus! [Legendary Jade Plate Sabatons of Warding]
Battle Clear Bonus! [Legendary Cobalt Leather Gauntlets of Deflection]
Battle Clear Bonus! [Legendary Cobalt Leather Helmet of Warding]
Pinkie Pie dropped [Health Draught]
Angel Bunny dropped [30x Crystal of Swiftness]
Twilight Sparkle dropped [Spirit Draught]
Spike dropped [Exquisite Power Helmet of Warding]
A traveling salesmoogle gives you [2775 Credits] for it.
Rarity dropped [Monster Chow]
Applejack dropped [Spirit Draught]
Gummy dropped [Mana Draught]
Rainbow Dash dropped [Superior Plate Helmet of Protection]
A traveling salesmoogle gives you [385 Credits] for it.
Fluttershy dropped [Exquisite Leather Breastplate of Dampening]
A traveling salesmoogle gives you [824 Credits] for it.
You are Victorious!

yeah without doing the math, in my experience everything below 200 amnesias (with DD) is good

This one actually got me interested in calculating actual average value of needed shards to get p5s4 (and stamina). Realising that pure math is too complicated for my grasp, I decided to go another way, I wrote some code in pascal (with what I remember from school long ago lol) and just bruteforce shitload simulations of getting p5s4 and then just calculating average.
Hardcoded conditions:
- For stamina usage calculatiuon, 1st run goes to IW2, 2nd to IW4, 3rd to IW5, 4th to IW6, 5th to IW7, 6th-7th to IW8, 8th-10th to IW9 and it stops on that (lurked some old IW service logs, these are values for average legendary staffs, not peerless, for peerless may vary)
- whenever you get any potency other than penetrator or spellweaver - reforge (obv)
- whenever you get p0s4 or p1s4 or p2s4 - reforge (hitting 3-5 penetrators in a row without hitting s5 or third potency seems too low chance to even bother continuing, maybe p2s4 is a bit harsh, lmk, might change that in code)
So, here are the results for 100K simulations (for both having Dark Descent perk or not)
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There were obviously outliers with almost instant success and like 1.5k shard usage on the other side, but in the long run averaged to these numbers.
Edit: wanted to do median values, but too exhausted today already, maybe on another day. =(

This post has been edited by uchimatan: Nov 7 2023, 22:09

So your answer is 151 average shards, but the reforging tactics are not guaranteed to be correct. You reforge with p2s4, but what about p5s0?

Personally, my strange luck has resulted in me often getting a5b5 when I had a5b0. This is supposed to happen 1/16 amount of the time, but for me it happens like 1/8 the time.

Since I assume this simulation can be rerun very quickly, why don't you just do lots of simulations using different reforging strategies, and post the answer for each one? In particular you should post the result for using the default strategy (reforge only if you've failed).

This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Nov 7 2023, 23:43

Hm, I guess I could do that, will post tomorrow at the same time ±
Comparing different strategies is indeed interesting to see, didn't think about that at first.
It indeed reruns quite quickly, changing code however is not (at least for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) not that good at this)
Btw, getting x5y5 after x5y0 is not 1/16, in fact, it's quite higher, since when you have 2 potencies, chance to get third are 25%, and to upgrade existing one is 75% (at least wiki says so)
0.75^4=0.3164

Hmm good point, in that situation it may not work like I thought, then. Do we have proof (or a clearly stated explanation from Tenboro) of how this a5b0 situation works?

I worked through the probabilities in the past for staff IW. With a basic strategy of never reforging until it's impossible to get p5s4, I got an expected shard use of 146 with 168 IW runs. Reforging at p0s4 reduces those numbers to 144 and 165. Also reforging at p1s4 slightly increases the numbers again to 146 and 166. Reforging at p2s4 too increases the numbers to 151 and 170.

Since a focus staff can't get economizer, it's much easier to IW. 87 average shards with 106 IW runs using the strategy of reforge at p0s2.

Same:

CODE

//  Simulator args - pxp0, potency pool size, IW level goal, potency 1 level goal, potency 2 level goal
// simulate arg - iterations (items to complete, not total runs)

>>sim = Simulator(371, 5, 9, 5, 4)

>>sim.simulate(1000)
1000 IWs complete.
104 average IWBTH runs
141 average PFUDOR runs
103 average resets
162 average shards

>>sim.simulate(10000)
10000 IWs complete.
107 average IWBTH runs
148 average PFUDOR runs
106 average resets
168 average shards

For some comparisons, J5, and J5C5:

CODE

// J5
>>arm_sim1 = Simulator(377, 8, 10, 5)
>>arm_sim1.simulate(10000)
10000 IWs complete.
12 average IWBTH runs
17 average PFUDOR runs
11 average resets
15 average shards


// J5 C5
>>arm_sim2 = Simulator(377, 8, 10, 5, 5)
>>arm_sim2.simulate(10000)
10000 IWs complete.
204 average IWBTH runs
147 average PFUDOR runs
203 average resets
264 average shards

This post has been edited by Nezu: Nov 8 2023, 05:08

Why are Nezu's results a bit different from mathl33t and uchimatan's? (who got the exact same result, despite uchimatan using brute force simulation compared to mathl33t using brute force math)

Perhaps the model was different? As I consider my a5b0 question maybe not definitively answered yet.

Since a focus staff can't get economizer, it's much easier to IW. 87 average shards with 106 IW runs using the strategy of reforge at p0s2.

Did you mean to say p0s2, or p0s4?

Perhaps the model was different? As I consider my a5b0 question maybe not definitively answered yet.
Did you mean to say p0s2, or p0s4?

p0s2. The lack of economizer changes things that much.