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Cleared my first PFUDOR GF. Used 76 spirit potion and 4 spirit elixir. It was hard in the last 200 rounds.

50k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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nice round number!

Cleared my first PFUDOR GF. Used 76 spirit potion and 4 spirit elixir. It was hard in the last 200 rounds.

Which build ? (1H, mage, Dw ?)

And how much time ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Fed one of my monsters again, and saw that I still haven't accomplished my objective.
That objective being having my 1st monster at double of my level, and other monsters at exactly my level, when I see people casually talking about 4 digits level monsters, and the rules favoring them, I wonder if there's a point to even have that objective (could just feed them with pills and leave them at their level, probably can't make much of a difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) )

Well from my experience, monster PL below 500 doesnt mean anything. Above 500 they start slowly to mean something. Only 12 are below PL 820 and i may not get as much as people with a lot of four digit monsters, but so far i am happy with them.

Which build ? (1H, mage, Dw ?)

And how much time ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

1H. It took me 3.5 hours (´・ω・｀)

1H. It took me 3.5 hours (´・ω・｀)

Hey, that is around the time i needed for my first one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Awww, good times, good times. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I just realized that it may be profitable to do GF.

The cost of running GF are mostly ED, cost to repair equip, pots, opportunity cost by potentially missing some RE in the day, gaining EXP (if the player doesn't want to level up quickly), and the time spent.

The gains are crystals (I got 6727 crystals with no Crystarium perk), Artifact drops (I got 3 PA with 4/10 Archaeologist) and all kind of equip or items that you can bazaar or sell.

I will consider doing GF regularly if I can finish it faster and get better training and hath perks in the future.

I just realized that it may be profitable to do GF.

The cost of running GF are mostly ED, cost to repair equip, pots, opportunity cost by potentially missing some RE in the day, gaining EXP (if the player doesn't want to level up quickly), and the time spent.

The gains are crystals (I got 6727 crystals with no Crystarium perk), Artifact drops (I got 3 PA with 4/10 Archaeologist) and all kind of equip or items that you can bazaar or sell.

I will consider doing GF regularly if I can finish it faster and get better training and hath perks in the future.

Depending on what difficulty you're playing at - yeah, it's definitely profitable, even with minimal drop trainings. The more you get, the more regular profit you can expect. At full drop training, it's around 80-100k profit per fest, excluding crystals. You can pretty much double it and then a little more when you have full crystarium perks, if you're selling crystals.

Of course, the ultimate cost is on your sanity. Don't burn out festing in the hopes of being rich - it's a miserably rewarding game right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I just realized that it may be profitable to do GF.

The cost of running GF are mostly ED, cost to repair equip, pots, opportunity cost by potentially missing some RE in the day, gaining EXP (if the player doesn't want to level up quickly), and the time spent.

The gains are crystals (I got 6727 crystals with no Crystarium perk), Artifact drops (I got 3 PA with 4/10 Archaeologist) and all kind of equip or items that you can bazaar or sell.

I will consider doing GF regularly if I can finish it faster and get better training and hath perks in the future.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) In fact it is true, but if you had your equipment well arranged in the one-handed fighting style, fixing to the maximum the blocking of a 65% shield forwards, you would know that you get even more performing IW, for example yesterday I obtained 16 precursor Artifcat and various scrolls of the god, and it is well known that if you want to keep your stamina below 80 points, this is one of the best ways to keep it that way.

In each IW, it does not take me more than 25 minutes and it also helps a lot to have the OFC, to eliminate all the monters in one round with a single hit, with the shield in the next round you immediately fill your spirit points back. But all that cost me something like 8 or 9 million credits, it is knowing how to invest, and where to invest it.

This post has been edited by Arkoniusx: Sep 23 2020, 23:46

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) In fact it is true, but if you had your equipment well arranged in the one-handed fighting style, fixing to the maximum the blocking of a 65% shield forwards, you would know that you get even more performing IW, for example yesterday I obtained 16 precursor Artifcat and various scrolls of the god, and it is well known that if you want to keep your stamina below 80 points, this is one of the best ways to keep it that way.

In each IW, it does not take me more than 25 minutes and it also helps a lot to have the OFC, to eliminate all the monters in one round with a single hit, with the shield in the next round you immediately fill your spirit points back. But all that cost me something like 8 or 9 million credits, it is knowing how to invest, and where to invest it.

This is false information. The drop rate in IW and GF is exactly the same, with the exception that grindfest monsters get an additional crystal roll and modifier, meaning GF is always significantly more profitable.

However, IW is slightly easier to complete, so it can be better profit per time if you have no crystarium perks.

This post has been edited by lestion: Sep 24 2020, 00:59

However, IW is slightly easier to complete, so it can be better profit per time if you have no crystarium perks.

If it is easier, but if you have correctly arranged your equipment, if not, it will take a long time.

Something that I keep noticing in the IW is that, whatever they say around here, it is precisely there where I have obtained more PA than anywhere else, maybe it is a simple coincidence (If so, I hope it continues to be so), but it is what I have verified.

Although, I must admit that getting to the battle level in grindfest where you can get 12 crystals in one hit which each monster you defeat drops is quite satisfying.

If it is easier, but if you have correctly arranged your equipment, if not, it will take a long time.

Something that I keep noticing in the IW is that, whatever they say around here, it is precisely there where I have obtained more PA than anywhere else, maybe it is a simple coincidence (If so, I hope it continues to be so), but it is what I have verified.

Although, I must admit that getting to the battle level in grindfest where you can get 12 crystals in one hit which each monster you defeat drops is quite satisfying.

It's a coincidence. Except for crystals, the drops in grindfest and item world are identical, you're examining a very small sample and seeing a pattern where there is none. You have not 'verified' anything so please be careful not to mislead people with answers that sound authoritative (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It's a coincidence. Except for crystals, the drops in grindfest and item world are identical, you're examining a very small sample and seeing a pattern where there is none. You have not 'verified' anything so please be careful not to mislead people with answers that sound authoritative (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yes, that's why I said that in my case it must be a coincidence, I don't know how it is in the case of the others, but as long as that coincidence remains, I think I will continue to rely on IW, at least until the coincidence disappears.

Thanks for sharing. One more thing I can think of is that GF may have slightly more average number of monsters per round given IW always start with fewer monsters. This is just my intuition and I don't have any statistics to prove it though.

Thanks for sharing. One more thing I can think of is that GF may have slightly more average number of monsters per round given IW always start with fewer monsters. This is just my intuition and I don't have any statistics to prove it though.

Grindfest also starts with fewer monsters, and IW ramps up a little faster. The density should be roughly similar (though like you, I don't have exact numbers to prove it on hand).

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Grindfest also starts with fewer monsters, and IW ramps up a little faster. The density should be roughly similar (though like you, I don't have exact numbers to prove it on hand).

For the same 1000 rounds, IW needs to ramp up at least 10 times, but GF just needs once. I didn't know IW ramped up faster, but even if so, I still think GF may have slightly higher density, probably not much. I may run some analysis in the future when I can do GF more easily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For the same 1000 rounds, IW needs to ramp up at least 10 times, but GF just needs once. I didn't know IW ramped up faster, but even if so, I still think GF may have slightly higher density, probably not much. I may run some analysis in the future when I can do GF more easily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I can provide numbers for grindfest density quite easily - just check the Monster Analysis post linked in my signature. (tl;dr average 8,363 monsters per grindfest)

It's IW I'm missing data for, because I've never bothered to record such statistics there... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)