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Won my armor with 50% ticket count.

Won my armor with 50% ticket count.

At least 6k is only what, less than 2mil-ish? Still kind of a weirdly high expense for mitigation prefix protection though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Peerless power of Protection can achieve outstanding things, trust me.
I'd even go so far as to say that elemental prefixes are preferable for that kind of equipment.

Tried it. True enough.

Edit: i meant, physical defense oriented build. Not peerless.

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Mar 28 2019, 19:53

Peerless power of Protection can achieve outstanding things, trust me.
I'd even go so far as to say that elemental prefixes are preferable for that kind of equipment.

You know, I didn't realise heavy didn't have any resist chance on it. I didn't realise how much I'd been spoilt by evade + resist - magic attacks make up maybe an eighth of the damage I take at most, with no real effort made to raise elemental resistances, magic mitigation or resist chance.



(It wasn't the protection part I doubted, though - I know that stuff's good haha)

This post has been edited by lestion: Mar 28 2019, 19:52

It's not a matter of magical attacks being a minority or not. First because Physical Fire, Physical Dark and Magical Crushing are a thing. Second because what matters is not only the proportion of these attacks have in the global pool, but also their individual impact on your gameplay.

In other words, if an attack is very, very likely to stop your hovering with a single blow, then it will slow you down and you need to mitigate it in a way or another. As long as your block chance isn't equal to 100%, you need to mitigate attacks. And of course mitigating is extremely important against monsters who deal bullshit powerful blows.

In the vocabulary of risks management, there are two factors that determine the criticity of a risk: the probability and the impact. The multiplication of both gives the criticity. Think of physical attacks as being very frequent, but with a moderate impact. And then think of magical attacks as being less frequent, but with a much higher impact. Therefore, a good build is a build that deals with both: physical attacks need to be mitigated so that their accumulation doesn't sap your HP, magical attacks need to be mitigated so that your HP (+SP...) doesn't get wrecked in a single blow.

So when it comes to defense oriented builds, yes you do sacrifice attack power, but the better tanking allows you to heal less often and play one hand with the other hand on the dong.

According to wiki, any specific element/type can be either physical or magical on some monsters, but some combinations should be rarely seen.

Then how to mitigate those high impact magical attacks? By adding one piece of Savage power of Warding?

Then how to mitigate those high impact magical attacks? By adding one piece of Savage power of Warding?

Honestly?
I have 4 slaughter and 1 protection.

I go through DwD without cure.
I can go through 100 rounds of peerless pfudor IW with relatively minor curing.
Like, I don't see any benefit at all to go with defensive suffixes over slaughter.
You can no-brain no-imperil no-cure arenas with decent gear, so why bother for more defenses?
Like, there's literally no reason to.

Then how to mitigate those high impact magical attacks? By adding one piece of Savage power of Warding?

at first it's a pain when it happens, I know, those celestials, right?
then it trigger SoL occasionally.
then at some point it doesn't matter anymore.

just soulfuse your mag slaughter and grind your level.

anyway.
Lvl 473, LGBD perk activated a few days ago, and the ED consumption feels really different.

Honestly?
I have 4 slaughter and 1 protection.

I go through DwD without cure.
I can go through 100 rounds of peerless pfudor IW with relatively minor curing.
Like, I don't see any benefit at all to go with defensive suffixes over slaughter.
You can no-brain no-imperil no-cure arenas with decent gear, so why bother for more defenses?
Like, there's literally no reason to.

I'd say it's really personal preference lol. I'm sure protection set will get rid of those moments when you proc SoL even as 1H Heavy, but at cost of more turns in general because the adb diff between slaughter and non-slaughter is quite substantial.

Kinda funny that I haven't done a single grindfest at level 413, but oh well I guess I'll wait until I can handle it under an hour with mage set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes there is one: no cure at all during IW and no health draught either, and better PFFEST experience.
I double dare you to say that you don't need to heal at all during PFFEST.
While you're already healing like mad, i'm still having a walk in the park in no-brain mode.

I'd say it's really personal preference lol. I'm sure protection set will get rid of those moments when you proc SoL even as 1H Heavy, but at cost of more turns in general because the adb diff between slaughter and non-slaughter is quite substantial.

Kinda funny that I haven't done a single grindfest at level 413, but oh well I guess I'll wait until I can handle it under an hour with mage set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yeah (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Regardless, now that I'm using my mage persona most of the time, switching back to melee is soooo fucking hard.
Like, even with imperil is sooooo slooooow.

I'm not doing fests either, just cause my mage isn't strong enough and who in their right mind would want to sit through 12 hours of no-braining pffest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(with the exception of Uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) )

I think once you go for mage, going back to melee entirely is just impossible.

Unless you absolutely hate yourself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by KamuiSeph: Mar 28 2019, 22:36

Well, after I see the snip below I felt that I just asked an obvious question. Of course. This is completely understandable in the Pfest setting. I believe the forging are also done to maximum?

Yes, patience is a virtue.
It took me more than a year to obtain that:
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Yes there is one: no cure at all during IW and no health draught either, and better PFFEST experience.
I double dare you to say that you don't need to heal at all during PFFEST.
While you're already healing like mad, i'm still having a walk in the park in no-brain mode.

Yea, maybe you are right in the regard that protection suffix is the archetype for 1H - takes longer, but no-brainer.
In a sense, at least for PFFEST, power slaughter is just a compromise between no-brainer 1H and mage.

But for those who do not intend to run PFFEST on 1H I'd say slaughter is the way to go since even with slaughter you don't have to heal that much :/

For me, I'd honestly cure and use scrolls like crazy and complete it under 1 hour than breezing through it over three hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

No I haven't forged to the maximum, but I'm working to it.
Oh, and it doesn't take me 12 hours to clear PFFEST. Roughly 1h45. I'm sure I can go down to 1h30 with a full forge set. I'm very far from full forge after all.

At least 6k is only what, less than 2mil-ish? Still kind of a weirdly high expense for mitigation prefix protection though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

You also need to take into account I failed to get the previous two armors, about 17k more tickets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I can go through 100 rounds of peerless pfudor IW with relatively minor curing.
Like, I don't see any benefit at all to go with defensive suffixes over slaughter.
You can no-brain no-imperil no-cure arenas with decent gear, so why bother for more defenses?
Like, there's literally no reason to.

I still need to cure once during the last 3 rounds of peerl IW which is sad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Because peerl slaughters are too expensive, so I'm more inclined to stick with a perfect defensive build as opposed to an imperfect offensive build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I'd say it's really personal preference lol. I'm sure protection set will get rid of those moments when you proc SoL even as 1H Heavy, but at cost of more turns in general because the adb diff between slaughter and non-slaughter is quite substantial.

Kinda funny that I haven't done a single grindfest at level 413, but oh well I guess I'll wait until I can handle it under an hour with mage set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Same here. I'm almost done preparing for it. Anticipating my first try at level 425.

No I haven't forged to the maximum, but I'm working to it.
Oh, and it doesn't take me 12 hours to clear PFFEST. Roughly 1h45. I'm sure I can go down to 1h30 with a full forge set. I'm very far from full forge after all.

Then I'm guessing you forged about twice (or maybe thrice) as much (as me)?

I have minimum forge on everything now. How do these stats look to you?

82.4% physical mitigation
77.2% magical mitigation
4.5% evade chance
66.9% block chance
63.2% parry chance
16.3% resist chance



Jug25 is on the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

pffest talk

crying in DW

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82.4% physical mitigation
77.2% magical mitigation
4.5% evade chance
66.9% block chance
63.2% parry chance
16.3% resist chance
Jug25 is on the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I got only two power parts Forge 15, the rest are Forge 6.

That's what I have:
82.1 % physical mitigation
76 % magical mitigation
7.1 % evade chance
61.3 % block chance
62.6 % parry chance
20.2 % resist chance

... I call hacks, seriously. You cheated by full forging your shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by decondelite: Mar 29 2019, 00:22

I got only two power parts Forge 15, the rest are Forge 6.

That's what I have:
82.1 % physical mitigation
76 % magical mitigation
7.1 % evade chance
61.3 % block chance
62.6 % parry chance
20.2 % resist chance

... I call hacks, seriously. You cheated by full forging your shield. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Thanks for the details.

Oh, I thought you are closer to fully forge your set. Now I think of it, you have mage sets so you don't really need to do it...

I almost forgot my shield. It's not part of the "powers" but simply a "force".

To fully forge my shield I worked really hard to get to forge master by forging my useless peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)