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Mar 9 2019, 17:34
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xesxesgnik
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T_T guess won't be playing pffest for a while... EDIT: Since I won't be playing pffest so no need for LGBD/Crys...The only perks worth getting now are DDs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 9 2019, 17:41
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Mar 9 2019, 17:47
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SleepDealer
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 20:34)  T_T guess won't be playing pffest for a while...  With some forge you can play about 300-400 rounds and fleet but in long run it would be unprofitable comparing to elemental that can complete it.
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Mar 9 2019, 18:02
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(SleepDealer @ Mar 9 2019, 16:47)  With some forge you can play about 300-400 rounds and fleet but in long run it would be unprofitable comparing to elemental that can complete it.
No, i would suggest doing full IWBTHFest before some partial PFest. More profit.
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Mar 9 2019, 19:15
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SleepDealer
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IWBTHFest with pauses. 55minutes 
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Mar 9 2019, 19:51
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Mar 10 2019, 01:00)  Jug1 Cap1 -> Jug4 Cap1  48 shards and finally jug 5 is on the way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Boom J4C1D2
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Mar 9 2019, 20:25
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Noni
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 16:16)  Hmm, what about imperil dark mage? Is that style not viable on pffest because of slower casting speed of dark compared to elemental?
Yes very viable for PFFEST, and much, much cheaper than non-imperil. Your staff is good enough for that (your staff is pretty good, actually!). get a couple of charged phases, play 3+2, dark charged can be cheap (with a bit of luck). QUOTE(SleepDealer @ Mar 9 2019, 16:23)  Its bad. Dont even try.
I disagree. It's very nice and a good way to get towards non-imperil. I had a full charged dark set, 0.8 prof factor, works much faster than my LARD 4+1 set.
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Mar 9 2019, 20:28
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xesxesgnik
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Thanks! So I guess the trick is to get charged on phases as well instead of radiant? All charged? My plan would be: get very decent charged cotton glove/shoes so I can use them for non-imperil setting as well, and get moderate quality charged phase on other parts that can be swapped out with radiant later for non-imperil. Sounds good? Perhaps if I want to go non-imperil style later it actually might be better for me to get a better staff to begin with (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 9 2019, 20:30
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Mar 9 2019, 20:35
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-vincento-
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Better staff? Yours is good enough. You wanna pay 90m for a so-called end-game staff that increase only 1~3% of your total damage output? Oh get your DD6 first. Fine. At least dark staffs do receive benefits from EDB roll. Not for wind/elec staffs. Of course go charges. But I prefer 4+1 over 3+2. Say how much firepower you lose. It's 3.8~3.9/3.5=8.5% more EDB from your phases.
This post has been edited by -vincento-: Mar 9 2019, 20:42
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Mar 9 2019, 20:39
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Noni
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 9 2019, 19:28)  Thanks! So I guess the trick is to get charged on phases as well instead of radiant? All charged? My plan would be: get very decent charged cotton glove/shoes so I can use them for non-imperil setting as well, and get moderate quality charged phase on other parts that can be swapped out with radiant later for non-imperil. Sounds good? Perhaps if I want to go non-imperil style later it actually might be better for me to get a better staff to begin with (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) you have a good staff dude. 20-25m worth of good staffness. In my humble opinion, you got a bargain of 20m. Better staff... you know what I paid for my end-game LDWD, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yes, that is the trick. Yes, that's a sound plan! Sounds like a plan. You won't regret it. Maybe elec imperil is a little bit better, but who cares? [Emperor's voice] Come to the dark side.... Yesss... I feel your anger... feel the power! [/Emperor's voice]
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Mar 9 2019, 20:48
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xesxesgnik
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 9 2019, 13:35)  Better staff? Yours is good enough. You wanna pay 90m for a so-called end-game staff that increase only 1~3% of your total damage output? Oh get your DD6 first. Fine. At least dark staffs do receive benefits from EDB roll. Not for wind/elec staffs. Of course go charges. But I prefer 4+1 over 3+2. Say how much firepower you lose. It's 3.8~3.9/3.5=8.5% more EDB from your phases.
4+1 as in robe for the prof? I can see how can it be somehow manageable for imperil style which aims for 0.8 but isn't it not enough for non-imperil? Noni's got around 0.93 with his peerless robe, iirc. Or perhaps that extra edb makes up for a slightly lower prof factor? QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 9 2019, 13:39)  you have a good staff dude. 20-25m worth of good staffness. In my humble opinion, you got a bargain of 20m. Better staff... you know what I paid for my end-game LDWD, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yes, that is the trick. Yes, that's a sound plan! Sounds like a plan. You won't regret it. Maybe elec imperil is a little bit better, but who cares? [Emperor's voice] Come to the dark side.... Yesss... I feel your anger... feel the power! [/Emperor's voice] lolol yeah maybe I should forget about getting better staff until I place myself in top25 of H@H or something. I actually got myself a LSR(R!)D for arena only haha. Yea, wind/elec, pretty cool and all, but yea I probably won't go that way after seeing that 61m craziness on that robe this week (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'll see about 4+1 vs 3+2 as items come rolling in future auctions lol. If I can grab myself a decent charged cotton robe for decent price, maybe 4+1. Since it's technically a 'bad slot', it might be cheaper. Who knows? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) btw didn't you get your first staff which is better than mine for about 10m?? My deal's still a good bargain but didn't realize it worth 20m O_o. Perhaps because they are generally more expensive now? This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 9 2019, 20:49
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Mar 9 2019, 20:59
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 02:48)  4+1 as in robe for the prof? I can see how can it be somehow manageable for imperil style which aims for 0.8 but isn't it not enough for non-imperil? Noni's got around 0.93 with his peerless robe, iirc. Or perhaps that extra edb makes up for a slightly lower prof factor? lolol yeah maybe I should forget about getting better staff until I place myself in top25 of H@H or something. I actually got myself a LSR(R!)D for arena only haha. Yea, wind/elec, pretty cool and all, but yea I probably won't go that way after seeing that 61m craziness on that robe this week (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I'll see about 4+1 vs 3+2 as items come rolling in future auctions lol. If I can grab myself a decent charged cotton robe for decent price, maybe 4+1. Since it's technically a 'bad slot', it might be cheaper. Who knows? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) btw didn't you get your first staff which is better than mine for about 10m?? My deal's still a good bargain but didn't realize it worth 20m O_o. Perhaps because they are generally more expensive now? I don't know what your goal exactly is for now. If you want to conquer PFDfest, then imperil style is better, then you only need 0.8. Just a cotton robe or pants. You will find yourself miserable if you go non-imperil in PFDfest right now. I've seen Noni's build. Using that Peerless robe, he got negligible amount of Arcane power in exchange of significant amount of counter-resist and some casting speed from the robe. I don't think that actually makes him faster, but only he knows the real answer. I am too lazy to find out the post to show how much counter-resist that 4+1 lost compared to 3+2.
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Mar 9 2019, 21:08
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xesxesgnik
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Oh ofc I'm not going to go for non-imperil right now. My goal is to go eventually non-imperil, but something that I can build up from imperil style. In fact, I won't even go for imperil style for a while since I don't have the budget (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) gonna just run my budget elec mage on arena for a while. If 4+1 loses significant amount of counter-resist over 3+2, why do you prefer it? Speaking of which, what's the difference between magic score and arcane score? I get something closer to magic score when I do mdb*edb*critical, but no idea about arcane score :/ EDIT: QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Mar 9 2019, 14:12)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) also lack of competition in bidding Gotta thank this guy too XD This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 9 2019, 21:14
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Mar 9 2019, 21:12
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KamuiSeph
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 03:48)  My deal's still a good bargain but didn't realize it worth 20m O_o. Perhaps because they are generally more expensive now?
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) also lack of competition in bidding
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Mar 9 2019, 21:28
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 10 2019, 03:08)  Oh ofc I'm not going to go for non-imperil right now. My goal is to go eventually non-imperil, but something that I can build up from imperil style. In fact, I won't even go for imperil style for a while since I don't have the budget (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) gonna just run my budget elec mage on arena for a while. If 4+1 loses significant amount of counter-resist over 3+2, why do you prefer it? Speaking of which, what's the difference between magic score and arcane score? I get something closer to magic score when I do mdb*edb*critical, but no idea about arcane score :/ EDIT: Gotta thank this guy too XD You have so much confusion. He's playing 4+1 non-imperil. Not 4+1 imperil. I am recommending you to play 4+1 imperil. For imperil, only 0.8 prof factor needed. Since you cast imperils on monsters, it becomes harder for them to resist. And for non-imperil, 1.0 prof factor is needed. Isn't that obvious.
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Mar 9 2019, 21:38
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xesxesgnik
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So you are recommending against 4+1 non-imperil. Then I think I'll just stick to 3+2 since as I mentioned, I'm looking to build an imperil set that can be later translated to a non-imperil set with minimal changes in gears. I thought you had that in mind when you recommended 4+1, hence I asked your opinion on 4+1 non-imperil. Of course I know 4+1 is a viable style for imperil.
well, ofc I would wait what noni got to say about his 4+1 XD
This post has been edited by Saioux: Mar 9 2019, 21:48
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Mar 9 2019, 22:19
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lololo16
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T&T: 1,367 turns with niten. New record =)
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Mar 9 2019, 22:23
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yami_zetsu
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Effluent Ether unlocked, 5574 mana pool
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