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Hath perk Adept Learner Lv.200 Reached!
Also would appreciate some advice on trainings and perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Given your level, the AP number is embarassing imho (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

And another monsterslot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Me too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Slot #20 opened.

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Feb 25 2019, 15:58

Hath perk Adept Learner Lv.200 Reached!
Also would appreciate some advice on trainings and perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Because you already have Thinking Cap, I recommand you to reach Adapt Learner lv. 300. Because of the Price I always think that People should reach Adapt Learner lv. 300 before they go to Thinking Cap.

Yep, I'm maxing out adept learner rn lol. I just spent it on thinking cap cuz I had some haths at my disposal haha. Where should I go from here after i max AL? As for hath perk, I'm thinking of getting the depr perk since I'd like to switch to mage soon and depr perk I can get some use out of it as 1H as well. (I probably need some more ability boosts as well, at least up to like 100 ish I think)

I'll eventually have to get crystarium perks but since I don't think I'll be playing fest any time soon...

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 25 2019, 16:06

Also would appreciate some advice on trainings and perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1) Scavenger -> Max
2) Archaeologist -> Max
3) Tokenizer III
4) Crystarium V
5) Quartermaster -> Max
6) Luck of the Draw -> Max

everyone should do that after getting Gold Star

In that order? I was thinking of getting drop trainings to 70% but after that it just seemed to be too much credits drain. Idk I might eventually get it but I should still save up some credits for mage gears, etc.

Is there any reason for doing that after GS? What's the relationship?

Disagree.

How about you? What's your opinion on drop trainings? I feel they are good up to some point with reasonable time to break even, but at max they need years O_o

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 25 2019, 16:16

1) Scavenger -> Max
2) Archaeologist -> Max
3) Tokenizer III
4) Crystarium V
5) Quartermaster -> Max
6) Luck of the Draw -> Max

everyone should do that after getting Gold Star

Disagree.

Is there any reason for doing that after GS? What's the relationship?

because getting GS most important, but you already have it, so you can go for drop training)

Disagree.

yeah-yeah, i know, better get Dæmon Duality III, clear Grindfest 3 min faster and cry about bad luck in drop

Yep, I'm maxing out adept learner rn lol. I just spent it on thinking cap cuz I had some haths at my disposal haha. Where should I go from here after i max AL? As for hath perk, I'm thinking of getting the depr perk since I'd like to switch to mage soon and depr perk I can get some use out of it as 1H as well. (I probably need some more ability boosts as well, at least up to like 100 ish I think)

I'll eventually have to get crystarium perks but since I don't think I'll be playing fest any time soon...

For Mage you need:
Effluent Ether
Enigma Energizer
Eminent Elementalist, if elenmental
Divine Warmage, if holy
Death and Decay, if dark
Evil Enchantress, if Imperil
Long Gone Before Daylight, if you at least use 1 Energy Drink everyday (eg. 1 Fest)

I don't recommand to get maxed Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster and Archaeologist now, Crystarium V and Tokenizer III neither, before you get your Mage Set, which strong enough to play PFUDOR Arenas everyday. After you can play the most Arenas at PFUDOR with Mage Set, you can make Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster and Archaeologist to 80%. The last 20% is so expensive that you may reach it after you get your final Mage Set.

what better
1) maximaze drop rate by Scavenger which gonna be work forever
2) get final Mage Set on level 368 which could be ruined by any patch

For Mage you need:
Effluent Ether
Enigma Energizer
Eminent Elementalist, if elenmental
Divine Warmage, if holy
Death and Decay, if dark
Evil Enchantress, if Imperil
Long Gone Before Daylight, if you at least use 1 Energy Drink everyday (eg. 1 Fest)

I don't recommand to get maxed Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster and Archaeologist now, Crystarium V and Tokenizer III neither, before you get your Mage Set, which strong enough to play PFUDOR Arenas everyday. After you can play the most Arenas at PFUDOR with Mage Set, you can make Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, Quartermaster and Archaeologist to 80%. The last 20% is so expensive that you may reach it after you get your final Mage Set.

I think I'll either play imperil elemental or dark mage, I think I'd want to use imperil as dark mage as well since I won't be reaching 1.0 prof factor any time soon. Is this not viable due to slower casting speed of dark mage? Yea I'll probably get LGBD after I clear pffest regularly, which I think will be after getting decent mage sets cuz I probably don't want to grind 3 hrs into it as 1h. So I might just go from zero to Crys V and LGBD altogether in some distant future.

Right now I'm just wondering about getting the depr perk rn would be worth it, i.e. 1h can also benefit somewhat. I don't have any other perk that can help me immediately so I might as well just go for it.

what better
1) maximaze drop rate by Scavenger which gonna be work forever
2) get final Mage Set on level 368 which could be ruined by any patch

Yea but the thing is last five levels of scavenger cost 8m together, and even if I net 500k from loot daily w/ 0 scavenger, it'd still take about a year to pay off, and that 500k is already a ridiculously gross overestimate. Wouldn't something like 60% or 70% and keeping the cash more reasonable?

ok, nobody want Scavenger 50.
what we gonna do with 8m, h-m-m-m?
for 8m you could get 2000hath = Dæmon Duality I for example.
or last auction: [Clo10] Legendary Charged Phase Gloves of Mjolnir (500, Elec EDB 71%) (seller: s976113) sixkas 7m #88; winning for 10.2h / 54.0h; +1.9%
how many years you need to pay off DD1 or that Phase Gloves?

everyone always tells me about ROI of trainings
but what is the ROI of Legendary Charged Something of Heimdall?

This post has been edited by Ikki Pop: Feb 25 2019, 16:46

what better
1) maximaze drop rate by Scavenger which gonna be work forever
2) get final Mage Set on level 368 which could be ruined by any patch

It depends how much Credits a Player can afford. If one has enough Credits for both, then max Scavenger first, because one can do it himself, but one must wait for the final Mage Set and buy parts of them form other Players (e.g. from Auction). If one doesn't have enough for both, one can try to collect his final Set (and do other things which benifit the Fight, e.g. some Perks), because the last 20% of Scavenger is very expensive. If one can really finish the final Mage Set at 368, why not.

Fighting benifits from Dropping efficient, Dropping also benifits from Fighting efficient. That's why we should try to invest Credits efficient for both, if our Credits are limited. If they're not limited, we should get all and best of both at the Beginning.

I think I'll either play imperil elemental or dark mage, I think I'd want to use imperil as dark mage as well since I won't be reaching 1.0 prof factor any time soon. Is this not viable due to slower casting speed of dark mage? Yea I'll probably get LGBD after I clear pffest regularly, which I think will be after getting decent mage sets cuz I probably don't want to grind 3 hrs into it as 1h. So I might just go from zero to Crys V and LGBD altogether in some distant future.

I don't play Dark Mage so I can't help you at this Point. If you ask for Advice about Imperil elemental, I'll say that we should get Eminent Elementalist first rather than Evil Enchantress.

I see. Thank you for your help. I actually already got the depr prof perk because I won't be switching to mage immediately (there hasn't been any decent staff...) but I think I'll probably get all my related perks before making the switch so that shouldn't be an issue. Got depr prof cuz I can benefit from it right away lol

As for drop trainings, should I just leave them at 50% or maybe to 60%? Currently their total cost is roughly 3m, and if I get them up to 60% it would be 6m. It seems like the cost roughly doubles for every 10% increase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by Saioux: Feb 25 2019, 16:56

The last few Scavengers are very very small improvement on drops. Not like they are going to save your ass and bring you a PHOH. 80% is a good threhold for reference
There are players who maxed all 4 training but got no peerless yet, but there also being some players who got peerless drop that worth 100m without maxing anything. Equipment Drops are 90% luck and 10% training.

For players who frequently buy gear, maxing training is a waste of money.

Yea for now I think I'll just leave them at 50%. I just hope a decent staff shows up on the market anytime soon (well not peerl-quality since I won't be able to afford it) since I think it's better to wait until getting the staff to start build up my mage set, and it's been like two weeks and nothing T_T

I unlocked the first Innate Arcana Harth Perk! (It showed up now!) - And just got my ass handed to me in my first Random Encounter in quite a while (Good thing I checked the "Ask the Experts" topic to read that bit about visiting the news page every day) because I still had my difficulty set to IWBTH).

This post has been edited by SeekerOfDestiny: Feb 25 2019, 18:29

I unlocked the first Innate Arcana Harth Perk! (Although my HV still tells me I don't have any, strange...)

It takes some time to activate. Congratulations! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

It takes some time to activate. Congratulations! ^_^

Yeah, it showed up now :D And thanks!

This post has been edited by SeekerOfDestiny: Feb 25 2019, 18:30

yeah-yeah, i know, better get Dæmon Duality III, clear Grindfest 3 min faster and cry about bad luck in drop

For once I'm not the one saying it...
Anyone who hasn't invested in trainings seriously has no rights to complain.

I'm not saying that maxing them out is a necessity, but that there should be a minimum of coherence between one's actions and demands. Help yourself, or so it says.