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Level 262.

I got to muster up more desire to actually play a little of hv instead of just logging in before and after every dawn of a new day.

+3.8% damage output.

You currently have 73.69 Hath.
Hath Perk Dæmon Duality VI Activated!

3x BG and FV



This post has been edited by SleepDealer: Dec 6 2018, 21:05

slaughter set~ with club/balance rapier

Fighting Style
Dualwield (void / void)
100
% Offhand Strike on hit
Physical Attack
17222
attack base damage
202.3
% hit chance
64.2
% crit chance / +75 % damage

with axe as main~

17600 adb (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

+3.8% damage output. Hath Perk Dæmon Duality VI Activated!

I guess the math is 135%/130% = 103.846% but I'm wondering how it stacks with Godslayer +10% damage. It could be 145%/140% = 103.571%, do we know for sure?

What about the +25% damage from Heartseeker? I suppose it could be 170%/165% = 103.03% with worst case stacking.

That's not really a field we can investigate easily, sadly. And I don't have a solid answer to that.
If someone wants to try, feel free to do so.

But given how the rest of the game is made, it is very likely that these bonuses are layered (in opposition to being additive).

It was taking too long to buy haths and bitcoins happened to crash yet again, so I just splurged $200 and sold 2 gold stars to a hath lord. I bought Dæmon Duality 5, going from 1 to 5 at once, and the improvement is disappointing. I only feel about the same improvement as DD1 in regular arenas.

Then I ran DwD once and my turns only improved by 10%, matching my feeling. I guess I should have tested carefully, but too late now.

I suppose anyone can test it even without scripts. Do End of Days and hit Schoolgirls, manually checking the log for the range (highest and lowest possible value) of your void strike damage. That's how I did some of my earlier tests investigating Imperil stacking, etc. Then buy DD1, trigger the perk and immediately test again.

I recently determined that (most?) hath perks can indeed be forced to trigger by changing equipment sets and changing back, or by simply changing any equipment and changing back.

It's not a discovery that anything beyond DD1 only brings in a subtantial improvement.
It's really the perks to get last. Well, actually the last before Manehattan and FoS.

monster slot 95 unlocked, thanks failed IWs!

monster slot 96 unlocked, i might need another 100 AS soon

Reached level 400~

Reached level 400~

now you can soulfuse big boys gear, congratz

I realized that I can still test Demon Duality stacking after all, by instead verifying the Heartseeker bonus. If stacking is additive the Heartseeker bonus should become less. So here goes.

CODE

1H level 360 Godslayer, 8167 base damage

Penetrated Armor 3 is always applied

Void Strike 12052 ~ 18078  (Heartseeker + Overwhelming Strikes + Spirit Stance)
Void Strike 10480 ~ 15589  (Heartseeker + Spirit Stance)
Void Strike 9642 ~ 14462  (Overwhelming Strikes + Spirit Stance)
Void Strike 8384 ~ 12262  (Spirit Stance)
Void Strike 4821 ~ 7231  (Overwhelming Strikes)
Void Strike 4297 ~ 6131  (Nothing)

Conclusion: Heartseeker (+25%), Overwhelming Strikes (+15%), Spirit Stance (+100%), and Demon Duality indeed all stack in multiplicative layers. There is no loss due to additive stacking, aside from Demon Duality with itself. I will test Godslayer on the next day by turning myself into Newbie.

And what about crits? Why do they not appear in your list? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

All drop trainings maxed, just need to get crys5 and token3 now. Might take a while though.

Crits don't appear because Void Strike can't crit, but that's exactly what I wanted for the purposes of this test.

CODE

Newbie

Void Strike 10435 ~ 15652  (Heartseeker + Overwhelming Strikes + Spirit Stance)
Void Strike 9188 ~ 13497  (Heartseeker + Spirit Stance)

Strangely, it appears that Godslayer boosts my damage output by 15.5% instead of 10% as stated, so the test is inconclusive. Can others test this?

Using different methods or scripts to gather data is fine, we just need to try to investigate Godslayer now.

What? That cant be. Let me check that. Oh, i guess you are right. The strikes dont crit themself but just the "normal" attack does.
Void Strike hits Kirisame Marisa for 5749 void damage.
Holy Strike hits Kirisame Marisa for 2051 holy damage.
You crit Kirisame Marisa for 30316 void damage.
Weird. Was it allways that way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

0 vase/gum and 0 scroll of life.

0 vase/gum and 0 scroll of life.

Nice work! With my full forged 4 charged 1 radiant cold set I had almost similar turns and time. So you're doing quite well!

Tried using Aether Shards for my Imperil Shortsword to boost my PFFEST: it's awesome! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Hath Perk Tokenizer I Activated!

Getting just the staple perks will take quite a while. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)