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@ALL_MIGHT: 2 ED on 80 Artifacts is the worst RNG i ever seen... but maybe it was to compensate my luck so i'm ok with it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by Maharid: Aug 26 2018, 00:03

I didnt die for ages ! yay

@ALL_MIGHT: 2 ED on 80 Artifacts is the worst RNG i ever seen

Yeah, i wish i could say the same. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Lucky RE

I am much more shocked about somethingelse. Yami, why dont have you even crys I? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I am much more shocked about somethingelse. Yami, why dont have you even crys I? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I don't play GFs, I don't see why I should get it yet

I don't play GFs, I don't see why I should get it yet

I don't play GFs either, but I got Crys II and it paid itself pretty quickly.

I don't play GFs, I don't see why I should get it yet

Even without GF the crys perks really pay for themself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Do the crystal perks really pay for themselves that quickly?

I have 1.6 million right now. Normally I earn a million in a few days. But I'm terrified to spend it on anything. Now that I have full leg power armor, I'm wondering what is truly the best way to spend my credits in a way I can earn shit back. I want to buy hath perks and stuff, but like I said, always scared of spending credits since the only way I earn them currently is the nasty, boring-ass hard grind of slogging through arena after arena.

Do the crystal perks really pay for themselves that quickly?

Well, yeah.

Let's say crystals are worth 3c each and hath 4k to make it easier.

Crystarium I is +100% Crystal drop and costs 250 Hath (1M), so to pay off you need to drop 2M credits worth of crystals, aka 666666 crystals, aka 55.5~ crystal packs

Crystarium I+II is +200% Crystal drop and costs 250+500 Hath (3M), so to pay off you need to drop 4.5M credits worth of crystals, aka 1500000 crystals, aka 125 crystal packs

Crystarium I+II+II is +400% Crystal drop and costs 250+500+1000 Hath (7M), so to pay off you need to drop 8.75M credits worth of crystals, aka 2916666 crystals, aka 243 crystal packs

Crystarium I+II+III+IV is +600% Crystal drop and costs 250+500+1000+2000 Hath (15M), so to pay off you need to drop 17.5M worth of crystals, aka 5833333 crystals, aka 486~ crystal packs

Crystarium I+II+III+IV+V is +900% Crystal drop and costs 250+500+1000+2000+4000 Hath (31M), so to pay off you need to drop 34.4M worth of crystals, aka 11481481 crystals, aka 956.79~ crystal packs

Not impossible numbers I'd say.
Paying back I and II is super easy, and III is quite fast too.

aka 55.5~ crystal packs

currently the price of a crystal pack is 18~22k. So that would be almost 100 packs

currently the price of a crystal pack is 18~22k. So that would be almost 100 packs

Selling crystals for less than 3c each is quite silly though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Selling crystals for less than 3c each is quite silly though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

*clears throat*
Roadshoe the other day

*clears throat*
Roadshoe the other day

Buying ≠ Selling

Buying ≠ Selling

True, but when even someone like roadshoe refuse to pay more then 2c. How do you gonna tell that someone who has not his income? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

The situation with crystal packs is complete bullshit. For my part, if I want crystals, I drop them myself.

I'm curious to find out anybody's stance on how much for a single crystal pack when it comes to someone purchasing them off somebody else should be bought for in their opinion?

This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Aug 26 2018, 10:28

Whatever you think they are worth. For various reasons, the going price of crystal packs has been dropping ultra rapidly over the past half year. It's not a temporary dip, it's clearly a trend and the losses should remain permanent for the foreseeable future. However it may be nearing the end of the drop. Or maybe not.

Whatever you think they are worth.

I think that they should be worth 30,000 to 50,000 credits per crystal pack only then I will try actually finishing Grindfest someday despite being bored immensely from it and gather up enough individual crystals to make crystal packs for selling.

Do the crystal perks really pay for themselves that quickly?

Now that I have full leg power armor, I'm wondering what is truly the best way to spend my credits in a way I can earn shit back.

If you don't sell crystal packs, forget about it. It's only worthwhile if you sell them. You won't pay off in 5 years if you invest into your monsters.
Also it's a slow, tedious process for melees to finish a GF. You don't play GF then it's bullshit.

Crystarium I+II+III+IV+V is +900% Crystal drop and costs 250+500+1000+2000+4000 Hath (31M), so to pay off you need to drop 34.4M worth of crystals, 1563 crystal packs@22k, 312 GF runs@IWBTH, 260 GF runs@PFD

Fixed. 260 PFDfests is not a big number for some advanced mages as they can do several runs everyday easily.

I think that they should be worth 30,000 to 50,000 credits per crystal pack only then I will try actually finishing Grindfest someday despite being bored immensely from it and gather up enough individual crystals to make crystal packs for selling.

The cause wasn't purely because of demand or supply. It's because several particular shopkeepers were willing to lower their price to sell more in the short-term. Then other shops eventually had to follow their drop....It's not hard for mages who can do multiple GFs everyday. on average 6 packs each run.