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DwD in 4.909 Turns. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I have a question. A higher level means more turns? or you wanted to say 3.909 instead of 4.909? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

And... Can I ask you how much time it takes to clear DwD with your current level and equipment?

490. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I have a question. A higher level means more turns? or you wanted to say 3.909 instead of 4.909? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I dont understand what you mean. 4.909 Turns for PFUDOR DwD is the lowest number of turns i ever made it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

And... Can I ask you how much time it takes to clear DwD with your current level and equipment?

I dont know. I mean when you did frame this question by yourself, i would say yeah, you can ask that question. But i dont know you, so i cant be absolute sure about this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I dont understand what you mean. 4.909 Turns for PFUDOR DwD is the lowest number of turns i ever made it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Maybe you don't remember when you were low level, or when you were low level the game was different (much more difficult it seems). Because not long ago someone said in the expert thread that when he was at low level he could do pfdwd in 3600-4100 (with melee ofc) and at my low level I can do it in 4700-4900.

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I got the idea that as you level up it would be more difficult to get lower number of turns/times. And wanted some form of confirmation.

I dont know. I mean when you did frame this question by yourself, i would say yeah, you can ask that question. But i dont know you, so i cant be absolute sure about this. unsure.gif

Well my english-fu is worse than I thought apparently... in my language "Can I ask you..." it's just good manners. I was actually asking you and letting you know that if you don't want to answer you can refuse and I won't take offense in that case. My bad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

But after reconsidering... I can't ask you that question so I take it back. c:

Maybe you don't remember when you were low level, or when you were low level the game was different (much more difficult it seems).

The second. When i was a low level player the game didnt had any training wheels that makes the game easier as long as your level is low.

Well my english-fu is worse than I thought apparently... in my language "Can I ask you..." it's just good manners. I was actually asking you and letting you know that if you don't want to answer you can refuse and I won't take offense in that case. My bad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

So my humor did fail me again? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jul 13 2018, 20:20

Because not long ago someone said in the expert thread that when he was at low level he could do pfdwd in 3600-4100 (with melee ofc) and at my low level I can do it in 4700-4900.

Uh yeeaa....
3600 turns is what I was able to achieve with DD1 at around lv365. Without DD1, I would need 3900~4000turns I believe. At the time, I have 2 legendary slaughters, 2 mag slaughters and 1 mag protection gauntlets. All slaughters forged 5, rapier forged 30.

Gear makes difference. All in my signature except for gauntlets are replaced. My gear wasn't never decent compared to some of peers, but good enough to drain all the potentials of 1h at my level

Also the way you do SG runs matters. 3600 ts___ I cast 1~3 times imperil at the beginning of each around. I never cast OFC, instead I only cast vital strikes on SGs with penetrated armor debuffs.

You will start to get less gain even if you forge you get better armors after lv400 because this is melees. That's why people switch to mage and why mage gears are expensive.

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it was you? I have some serious memory problems, sorry.

You will start to get less gain even if you forge you get better armors after lv400 because this is melees. That's why people switch to mage and why mage gears are expensive.

That is all I wanted to know, thanks. I guess it's time to save credits for when I change to mage... there is also the GS that I want.

*18 months of austerity*

[alt.hentaiverse.org] Jug5 without using a single shard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I'm still at 4500 turns PF DwD for my part. Without a single slaughter power armor and without rapier.

450 lvl.

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DwD 13:08 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I reached forge level 41

I hadn't noticed this before. Is it known how far into a forge level you have to get for the next level of upgrade to be available? It is close, so I assume that a few more points will probably be enough.

From the wiki

you have to completely fill the bar. from the same source you posted, it basically means that every other forge level you'll unlock a new potency level for non-ADB/MDB stats, and ADB/MDB every level. next level for you will unlock the 91/46 chance. lv43 will unlock MDB 92. lv44 will unlock 93/47 chance. and so on...

in fact, the levels to cover for ADB/MDB are 50, and for other stats are 25. the forge levels are 50, so:
* ADB/MDB: 50/50 = 1: a new level every 1 new forge level
* other stats: 25/50 = 0.5: a new level every 2 new forge levels.

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you have to completely fill the bar. from the same source you posted, it basically means that every other forge level you'll unlock a new potency level for non-ADB/MDB stats, and ADB/MDB every level. next level for you will unlock the 91/46 chance. lv43 will unlock MDB 92. lv44 will unlock 93/47 chance. and so on...

That's not what my experience shows.
At around forge level 30, I got my staff MDB to the maximum level available. This was 50 + my forge level. I increased my MDB by 1 each time forge level increased by 1, as the increase in max upgrade level for MDB allowed. When my forge level went to 40, I increased my MDB to 90 (50 + 40). It was sitting at 90 for 2 or 3 weeks, and I was waiting to be able to increase it. When my forge level went to 41, the max upgrade level for MDB should have increased to 91 (50 + 41), but it stayed at 90.

in fact, the levels to cover for ADB/MDB are 50, and for other stats are 25. the forge levels are 50, so:
* ADB/MDB: 50/50 = 1: a new level every 1 new forge level
* other stats: 25/50 = 0.5: a new level every 2 new forge levels.

Correct. But, your previous examples assume an initial forge level of 1 for ADB/MDB, and 0 for the other stats. It should be easy enough to confirm the initial forge level. Could someone with no forge experience confirm this?

Could someone with no forge experience confirm this?

I am not Forge Level 0 so I cannot confirm it.

Just counting my fingers, you are 9 levels away from max Forge level and 10 for the Magical Damge upgrade...hmm

Edit: My guess would be it is not linear increment for the last 10 levels

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jul 14 2018, 18:03

Correct. But, your previous examples assume an initial forge level of 1 for ADB/MDB, and 0 for the other stats. It should be easy enough to confirm the initial forge level. Could someone with no forge experience confirm this?

no, i assume 50 for ADB/MDB and 25 for other stats.

no, i assume 50 for ADB/MDB and 25 for other stats.

No, you assume that the initial maximum upgrade level is 50 for ADB/MDB and 25 for other stats. This is correct.

If a player's forge level is increased from 0 to 1, the maximum upgrade level for ADB/MDB should be 51 and for other stats should be 25.
If a player's forge level is increased from 1 to 2, the maximum upgrade level for ADB/MDB should be 52 and for other stats should be 26.
When I increased my forge level from 39 to 40, the maximum upgrade level for ADB/MDB became 90 and for other stats became 45.
When I increased my forge level from 40 to 41, the maximum upgrade level for ADB/MDB should have increased to 91 but stayed at 90 and for other stats stayed at 45.

No, you assume

erm... uh, alright. then i'll assume that. sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

btw, just checked on an account with 0 forge level. starting level for ADB/MDB is 50, and 25 for all the rest. since the totals are respectively 100 and 50, this automatically tells us that we start from half, and the remaining half is given by forge levels.
there's also the chance that it's coded so that they are added every other level - so +2 for ADB/MDB whenever appliable, but it's been so much time since i earned lv50 and i cannot remember, sorry...

forge level 15: damage 65, other 32.

Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance (level 318, 99% adb, 98% parry, 54% crit) 2.2m

Hard to believe that after all this time, that was my first expensive auction equipment won. I'm way behind my development compared to everyone else and still wearing a lot of leather and plate. Item World could take up to a year and 10m credits for me, depending how picky I am. Overpower should be most preferred, but where does Swift Strike rank on this item?

For immediate usage I can probably do a fairly basic IW on this Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble (78% adb, 48% parry) I won for 50k.

Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance (level 318, 99% adb, 98% parry, 54% crit) 2.2m

Hard to believe that after all this time, that was my first expensive auction equipment won. I'm way behind my development compared to everyone else and still wearing a lot of leather and plate. Item World could take up to a year and 10m credits for me, depending how picky I am. Overpower should be most preferred, but where does Swift Strike rank on this item?

For immediate usage I can probably do a fairly basic IW on this Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of the Nimble (78% adb, 48% parry) I won for 50k.

I think SS isn't that important since it's a waki and they come with attack speed anyway. Are you going for Niten? Then probably some mix of Fatality/Overpower would probably be best if you don't go for FRD style.

monster slot 72 unlocked, don't know what to make/name :/

monster slot 73 unlocked, too many mechanoids and dragonkins :/ gonna make elementals/reptilians/daimon/sprites to balance a bit the numbers from now on